What makes this particular societal norm incorrect and worth pushing back against? To whom is it bringing harm?
Yeah I understand both PoVsWhen societal norms are incorrect we should push back against them, if we want to call ourselves men, then we should do what's correct and just in spite of societal norms. If I'm walking through a door and someone isn't too far behind me coming through the same door, I hold the door whether it's a man or woman. I don't expect anything in return because the reason I hold the door is because I personally believe it'd be rude of me to let a door close in someone's face, so it's about me, not about me doing something "nice" and expecting a thank you.
He got the formula.matt got you nikkas in your feelings![]()
How could you possibly conclude that the person who the door was held for felt entitled to that act?
Yeah I understand both PoVs
If a person is doing something nice for me, I go out of my way to express my gratitude
At the same time, if I'm doing something nice for someone else, I don't expect anything in return because I'm being nice because I choose to, not necessarily to be given a pat on the head for my actions
How could you possibly conclude that the person who the door was held for felt entitled to that act? The person was going through the door whether it's held open or not. The only case where you could reach such a conclusion is if you're approaching a door and you see women posted up waiting for someone to hold the door for them.
The point I'm making here is that unsolicited acts of kindness should not be done with expectations, if you're not doing them because you feel it's something you want to do, then simply don't do it. Let that door close in her face if you want a thank you for holding it.
Why bother? In 5 minutes this clown gonna be in another thread talmboutYou're arguing against societal standards, norms, human interaction and mental wiring. I'm not going to say whether you're right or wrong at this time. I will, however, notate this position for future reference.
He got the formula.
Boutta start taggin him in more of my threads![]()
Why bother? In 5 minutes this clown gonna be in another thread talmbout
"How dare you toxic males not outline your intentions for a relationship from the onset, you owe her that much. How dare you not be respectful and courteous, you black men have no decency or respect! Rape by deception!!"
Next thread
"She can do what she wants, nobody owes you nothing, youre entitled for expecting deceny and common courtesy"
Yes, I do.Holding a door for a woman is just one of those expectations and women feel entitled to them.
Here’s another example then. A few nights ago, a complete stranger paid for my and my gf’s lobster dinner. I wasn’t expecting it and wasn’t posted up in the restaurant waiting for someone to buy me food. Should I have not said thank you? Should I have looked at him as if I didn’t ask for it so move on with your (his) life?