Why does this site pretend like Millennials didn’t kill R&B(Male Specifically)

[dora_da_destroyer]

Yeah and I promise the average non flab is listening Jeremih's discography and listening to Carl Thomas's and gonna be confused about how Jeremih is not great when he knows how to put together much better sounding bodies of work

you trolling, or you are jeremih. bro does not have an album in any stratosphere near emotional

 

[UpNext]

@Chillin Are any of them great though?

Chris Brown, The Weeknd, Bruno Mars and Trey Songz are great r&b artists. And on the Gen X list, I'd only have about 5-6 acts that are  great to me as well.

 

[UpNext]

you trolling, or you are jeremih. bro does not have an album in any stratosphere near emotional

Of course you listed the only album Carl Thomas put out worth listening to lol. I'm definitely still listening to Jeremih, Late Nights, All About You and the Late Nights mixtapes. How them other Carl Thomas joints hitting in 2023 tho?

 

[Dave24]

Let's compare this to...

1. Rkelly
2. Joe
3. Carl Thomas
4. Donnell Jones
5. Usher
6. Ginuwine
7. Dream
8. Neyo
9. Jamie Foxx
10. Raphael Saddiq/Toni Tony Tone
11. Kci & JoJo
12. Boyz II Men
13. Aaron Hall/Guy
14. Dave Hollister
15. Kenny Lattimore
16. Jesse Powell
17. Shai
18. Keith Sweat (actually a boomer, but made NJS so I'll count him)
19. Bobby Brown/New Edition
20. Jonny Gill
21. Brian McKnight
22. Maxwell
23. Dangelo
24. Bilal
25. Musiq
26. Shai
27. Sisqo/Dru Hill
28. Stokely/Mint Condition

the quality between the millennial list and Gen X list are two different universes

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Of course you listed the only album Carl Thomas put out worth listening to lol. I'm definitely still listening to Jeremih, Late Nights, All About You and the Late Nights mixtapes. How them other Carl Thomas joints hitting in 2023 tho?

Let's Talk About It can still make the rotation...meanwhile none of Jeremih's albums have ever been in my rotation, just a few songs/features from him here and there. if jeremih is great to you, enjoy breh, to me, he's a huge step down from the artists who came before him.

 

[010101]

would be less of a problem if the standard on lyricism & vocals stayed elevated

they blended the lyrics of rap & the vocals of r&b but let the standard get dropped for both at the same time

it's rushed fast food music

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[⠀X ⠀]

The industry is a business. They’re only supplying what the market demands. The industry can’t make people want R&B

So people demanded this inferior music?

 

[Piff Perkins]

What's the basis for R&B?

Choirs?
School music classes?

I mean if you remove all the places where people learn how to play instruments and learn how to sing, isn't it fair to draw the conclusion that those kids aren't going to grow up knowing how to create original music or perfect a skill like singing?

I mean this doesn't apply to just R&B. It applies to all music, really.
There are no groups now. No bands now. It's just people sampling the samples.

Someone here a long time ago once posted a Rick James clip where I think he hinted at this kind of thing.

I don’t buy this. Black musicians are still pumped into the music industry from churches. The issue is they’re playing on rap albums, not r&b. They’re playing jazz, which is probably more popular now than it’s been in years. They’re playing on television shows and movies. That pipeline still exists it’s just not producing r&b. Because this generation doesn’t value r&b.

 

[Vandelay]

There's some embers, but most of music is trash nowadays not just rnb. You have to search to find good music now. This is a byproduct of the democratization of music; anyone can make music virtually anytime and anywhere so the bar to get in is so low we're inundated with garbage. Say what you want about a&rs and the old studio system, it generally produced a certain caliber of product in the end.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

this a shaky ass list..bolded are proof of millennials fukking up r&b IMO, from lack of vocals to subject matter, to song composition, to leaning way too heavily on production...nah. doesn't mean i havent enjoyed songs from them, but this is weak. are you really enjoying dudes like drake and tory lanez as r&b? i think acts like that being welcome in r&b helped kill it

Thundercat got talent and not like those others

 

[3rdWorld]

You cant leave great cultural responsibility to the kids..(millennials).

 

[CrimsonTider]

You cant leave great cultural responsibility to the kids..(millennials).

Every pop culture movement is dictated by kids

So people demanded this inferior music?

It’s not inferior

 

[gho3st]

The decline of R&B parallels the listening habits and taste of millennials. The labeled supplied what Millennials demanded (Rap music) which minimized the resources put into R&B

Sohh, AHH Boxden etc were all sites filled with Millennials discussing rap music heavily. Not R&B

Millennials preferring rap music is how we got here

“R&B is too vulgar”
“R&B is missing soul”

They let trey songs , augus alsina , cb get away with that sht they call rb. And it went downhill from there

 

[concise]

I don’t buy this. Black musicians are still pumped into the music industry from churches. The issue is they’re playing on rap albums, not r&b. They’re playing jazz, which is probably more popular now than it’s been in years. They’re playing on television shows and movies. That pipeline still exists it’s just not producing r&b. Because this generation doesn’t value r&b.

Yea, anybody saying there's no talent now is wild ... talent is not valued in R&B anymore so there is no point in wasting time there.

 

[3rdWorld]

Every pop culture movement is dictated by kids

With a foundation to build their movement upon..