Why has Nas never made it properly in mainstream ?

[blackslash]

yall gotta get more creative with these nas troll threads though, i mean is yall even trying anymore?

Tell em who the GOAT of dese Nas hate threads is b

 

[Wacky D]

alot of embellishing on one side & downlaying on the other.
i usually stay away from the nas/pac/big/jay threads but this is

If I Ruled The World, Street Dreams, Nas Is Like, Hate Me Now, Oochie Wally, Got Yourself A Gun, One Mic, Made You Look, Thugz Mansion and I Can were all massive hits. Can only assume you weren't around when these were released.

abuse the term "massive hits" brehs.

Nas doesn't make "mainstream" music. They won't let him play. He's like E-40.

nas made plenty of mainstream music. even in recent years.

e-40's problem is that hes an acquired taste who the average person views as either okay or flat-out wack.

 

[Blackout]

He has made it to the mainstream and was there for a good while.

Its just that he has never made an attempt to stay mainstream as much as Jay has.

 

[mobbinfms]

Use incredibly vague terms that are open to numerous interpretations brehs.

"Made it properly in mainstream"

 

[Taadow]

E40 is actually very influentual. hes an artist that alotta nikkas dont give the proper respect but he still influenced their slang and the subject matter they rap about. im not even a fan like that but you cant deny dudes impact

makin anthems about not saving hoes was way ahead of the game

Basically. An E-40 song chosen at random is gonna be different from a rapper
trying to make a "mainstream hit". Same with Nas.

e-40's problem

E-40 doesn't have a problem, neither does Nas.
They're cemented in this game, despite some who question if they "made it properly in mainstream". That was my point.

 

[Professor Polo]

Nas doesn't trend hop like many of these other "rappers". He's preserved his artistic integrity to do what he wants to do at this stage in his career, not what the industry wants him to do.

 

[Wacky D]

E-40 doesn't have a problem, neither does Nas.
They're cemented in this game, despite some who question if they "made it properly in mainstream". That was my point.

bottom line is, e-40 is more of a regional legend.

no amount of radio play(or whatever you said) is gonna change that. he was down with lil jon and was getting crazy radio spins EVERYWHERE and still didnt go anywhere with it.

i dont even know why you brought him up. theres no comparison to nas. hes moreso in the ugk category.

A Ginuwine feature wasn't necessarily a reach for mainstream success. That song was what it was. It didn't exactly scream crossover. It appealed to fans of both R&B and Hip Hop. "Hate Me Now" definitely wasn't going for crossover appeal. That song was more in the vain of "Victory" than it was "It's All About The Benjamin" and "Been Around The World".

yep.

but he was clearly pandering to the radio with "you owe me". song was mad forced. ginuwine surfed all over em too. shouldve just been his record instead.

Nas doesn't trend hop like many of these other "rappers". He's preserved his artistic integrity to do what he wants to do at this stage in his career, not what the industry wants him to do.

nas has flirted with mainstream success from time to time but it's primarily because he doesn't follow trends

he just does his own thing and wins

nas followed trends thru the majority of his prime time.

Its just that he has never made an attempt to stay mainstream as much as Jay has.

yes he did.

he just stopped when it wasnt working for him anymore and he was almost down to his last leg.

also, he never had the mainstream success that jay had.

 

[Blackout]

yes he did.

he just stopped when it wasnt working for him anymore and he was almost down to his last leg.

also, he never had the mainstream success that jay had.

Dude Nas always focused more on the less mainstream topics than Jay in his raps.

Only pure mainstream album he had was Nastradamus yet even after that he had songs that hit the mainstream.

Many people complained about Nas voice being monotone and his beat selection yet he still hasnt changed that much.

Jay on the other hand focused on more mainstream topics and even used Biggies fame by biting his lyrics to get his boost in the mainstream and dont even get me started on how Beyonce helped him stay there as well.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

U playing if u don't think Nas wasn't deep on the mainsteam level from 96-2003

Basically. An E-40 song chosen at random is gonna be different from a rapper
trying to make a "mainstream hit". Same with Nas.



E-40 doesn't have a problem, neither does Nas.
They're cemented in this game, despite some who question if they "made it properly in mainstream". That was my point.

im tired of this mainstream = success attidute around here.

why does anybody care about "mainstream". its like they like they would want nas to trade in longevity & integrity in his craft for mainstream acceptance.

vanilla ice was mainstram, hammer was main stream, mase was main stream. is that what they really want? how about true to themselfs and well compensated and still in the game.

nikkas talking about "hes not mainstram enough" is the same ones who criticize when you get "too mainstream". fukk mainstream, this is Hip-Hop.

 

[vampire xtc]

nas just doesnt make good mainstream type of music is all

i mean this is not a secret lol

if i ruled the world was unexpected as it was originally a bonus track for the CD only version of IWW which of course changed when it popped off lol

plus when you listen to it he totally was not aiming for a mainstream hit with that record but it happens


hell blue magic charted higher than roc boys

which is crazy to me lol

as someone said his highest charting single was i can which is crap lol

 

[CashmereThoughts]

alot of embellishing on one side & downlaying on the other.
i usually stay away from the nas/pac/big/jay threads but this is





abuse the term "massive hits" brehs.





nas made plenty of mainstream music. even in recent years.

e-40's problem is that hes an acquired taste who the average person views as either okay or flat-out wack.

dude is 20 something years in the game and is still able to make hits i dont really think he has a problem just because somebody like me dont check for his albums.

 

[mobbinfms]

if i ruled the world was unexpected as it was originally a bonus track for the CD only version of IWW which of course changed when it popped off lol

Never heard that before.

 

[Taadow]

bottom line is, e-40 is more of a regional legend.

no amount of radio play(or whatever you said) is gonna change that. he was down with lil jon and was getting crazy radio spins EVERYWHERE and still didnt go anywhere with it.

i dont even know why you brought him up. theres no comparison to nas. hes moreso in the ugk category.

That's not the bottom line.

E-40 has been getting "crazy radio spins EVERYWHERE" for about 20 years, and has been everywhere with it.
We don't even have to use the term "legend".

And I brought him up because he and Nas are to the point where they don't have to make "hits" or be "mainstream"
to do well. They are comparable in that sense.

 

[vampire xtc]

Never heard that before.

yea was originally a bonus cut with silent murder

this was back when CD versions cost like 83746537465 dollars lol so CD versions always had an extra cut or 2 in order to justify that price since portable CD players were like $500 and didnt have anti skip lol had to walk with it like a table top in ya hand lol

 

[The_Third_Man]

his highest charting hit was "i can"

by FAR

and it was #12

nas stans making up excuses "he didn't want it"

oh so songs with Ginuwine and diddy don't exist

The funny thing is that Nas sold more copies with "I am" and "Nastradamus" than Diddy and Ginuwine albums in 99/98. Getting diddy on "hate me now" was more of a statement than a sell out move because Puff was one of the most hated people in hiphop.