Why is ESPN still dikkriding Jordan after all these years?

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you young nikkas missed out seeing the goat, i remember whenever you saw a bulls game it was EPIC, jordan was a gawd amongst men. Remembers the bald head and the one earring with the baggy shorts, the tongue out after a fadeaway jumper
 
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Michael's global impact was just bigger than the rest of those guys.. All super star athletes are not created equal...For their key demo age Mike turning 50 is bigger than Magic or Bird turning 50 because Mike was always a symbol of youth..Even when Bird and Magic were in their late 28's they had that old spirit surrounding them...So we could see them being 50...It's strange and hard to explain but the concept of a 50 year old Michael Jordan is something that was almost impossible to imagine..ESPN does a good job capturing that...

I think this guy is right about Michael represented the youth. He was a guy who you thought would be athletic and young forever but he cant beat father time and now he is
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ESPN and Jordan grew up at the same time yet ESPN wont ever get old because well....its not human

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you still see that jumpman logo everywhere you go..now with these young hypebeasts running around, you're gonna continue to be reminded of the greatest of GOATS :blessed:

and the reason why no NHL,MLB, or NFL person is celebrated and looked at in awe as much is because in basketball, a person's physical gifts is put on display consistently, night in & night out..Now, a RB like Barry Sanders could've been celebrated even more IF he was on some championship teams i believe..

simply put, it was that "wow" factor that Jordan had, and brought to the game..he AMAZED you..Dr.J was the spark, but MJ ignited that flame..
 

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100% of them know Joe Flacco's not a nikka :mjpls:

And hell yeah I'm chalking it up to cism.. I talk to middle aged white guys all the time that go through their spill about why they don't watch the NBA anymore and their story never adds up.. You think the average fan cares about an internal HR department?

:wtf:

Like I said.. Give the league 10 Larry Birds(which the NFL currently has) and watch how much protection is given..Watch how the popularity sky rockets.. Without making on single change to the model..The fact that the NBA is known as the "thug league" is a direct result of the protection given to the NFL for maintaining that power structure...

I agree with a portion of this assessment. I have heard plenty of middle aged white guys with their anti-NBA sentiment and it is disgusting. But I disagree that NBA with just hop to number 1 if they have 10 Larry Birds without considering other factors like Reb mentioned. Now if the NFL has 26 black QBs and 6 average white QBs, you may have a point. During the Jordan/NBA popularity apex he competed against the so call Larry Birds of the NFL...but what transpired when he retired the 2nd time? The NBA tried to find a replacement but fail to realize its nearly impossible to catch lightning in a bottle again. Cowboys, Redskins, Steelers, Packers, and any other NFL flagship organization will still thrive in the NFL regardless of the 'player'. The emphasis is still on teams.
 

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I agree with a portion of this assessment. I have heard plenty of middle aged white guys with their anti-NBA sentiment and it is disgusting. But I disagree that NBA with just hop to number 1 if they have 10 Larry Birds without considering other factors like Reb mentioned. Now if the NFL has 26 black QBs and 6 average white QBs, you may have a point. During the Jordan/NBA popularity apex he competed against the so call Larry Birds of the NFL...but what transpired when he retired the 2nd time? The NBA tried to find a replacement but fail to realize its nearly impossible to catch lightning in a bottle again. Cowboys, Redskins, Steelers, Packers, and any other NFL flagship organization will still thrive in the NFL regardless of the 'player'. The emphasis is still on teams.


It also doesn't help when the NBA was already hyping Jordan as the greatest player ever while he was playing and saying nobody will EVER be better than him.

It's like muthafukkas lose the damn mind when talking about Jordan. They were saying the other day that Jordan could play in the NBA today when he's nearly 50 years old :stopitslime:
 

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Just to add an outisde point of view to this discussion, the NBA is still HUGE worlwide, especially thanks to MJ and to the Dream Team, but also to Kobe, Lebron, Vince, Shaq, Iverson, Parker, Gasol and other international players. There hasn't really been a dip in popularity since MJ left, actually teh opposite as it has become easier to have access to games (internet). MJ started that movement, and he is indeed STILL is the most recognizable basketball face.

On the other hand, no one cares about other american sports.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
I got to see MJ and the 72-10 Bulls live and in person with my pops, and while I recognize MJ's greatness that doesn't mean I compare every fukking player to him. The problem is ESPN doesn't allow anyone to do a damn thing without MJ comparisons, it's like they're making up for all the time they didn't get to shove the MJ narrative down peoples throats back when the Network had some type of integrity.

It's like no other player exists beyond MJ, someone scored 46pts last night? Oh well who cares, cause that fat fakkit Michael Wilbon is bringing up that MJ once scored 47pts in 2 minutes. Everything is diminished because these morons will not let other players be great, this is the only sport I can think of where current players are constantly penalized for not being another player.

I think we're in another golden age for the NBA with all the great young talent flooding the league and some really good squads, yet ESPN and all their talking heads are just too stupid to realize it cause of what MJ did. I hate ESPN and everything they stand for :birdman:
 

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I got to see MJ and the 72-10 Bulls live and in person with my pops, and while I recognize MJ's greatness that doesn't mean I compare every fukking player to him. The problem is ESPN doesn't allow anyone to do a damn thing without MJ comparisons, it's like they're making up for all the time they didn't get to shove the MJ narrative down peoples throats back when the Network had some type of integrity.

It's like no other player exists beyond MJ, someone scored 46pts last night? Oh well who cares, cause that fat fakkit Michael Wilbon is bringing up that MJ once scored 47pts in 2 minutes. Everything is diminished because these morons will not let other players be great, this is the only sport I can think of where current players are constantly penalized for not being another player.

I think we're in another golden age for the NBA with all the great young talent flooding the league and some really good squads, yet ESPN and all their talking heads are just too stupid to realize it.

That's my thing. This is the best quality of basketball we're seeing now since the 80's IMO. Sooooo much young talent in the league now....but we're not allowed to enjoy it because we have to keep looking at the NBA's past and MJ.

ESPN needs to turn into a pillar of salt with all of the looking behind they're doing.

Enjoy living in the present. Enjoy the moment....
 

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As someone who works closely with them, this is too true.

They compound the stupidity by not trusting fresh minds. They'll let fresh young players elevate the brand on the court, but not off of it. Really ridiculous.

It's even beyond not having an HR department. A lot of the internal workings of how the NBA works in dysfunctional based on the people I know that's worked with the league.

I met a chick a few years back from GA who left working with the Falcons to work with the NBA's offices out in Secaucus. She was so turned off by how they operated that she stayed at the job for five months before running back down south to work with the Panthers.
 

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I got to see MJ and the 72-10 Bulls live and in person with my pops, and while I recognize MJ's greatness that doesn't mean I compare every fukking player to him. The problem is ESPN doesn't allow anyone to do a damn thing without MJ comparisons, it's like they're making up for all the time they didn't get to shove the MJ narrative down peoples throats back when the Network had some type of integrity.

It's like no other player exists beyond MJ, someone scored 46pts last night? Oh well who cares, cause that fat fakkit Michael Wilbon is bringing up that MJ once scored 47pts in 2 minutes. Everything is diminished because these morons will not let other players be great, this is the only sport I can think of where current players are constantly penalized for not being another player.

I think we're in another golden age for the NBA with all the great young talent flooding the league and some really good squads, yet ESPN and all their talking heads are just too stupid to realize it cause of what MJ did. I hate ESPN and everything they stand for :birdman:

It's funny that you feel this way with your proclivity for dominate post play..

Maybe I just don't pay attention to ESPN as much as yall do because I haven't really allowed it to effect how I view and analyze the game and this crop of players... I'm more of a NBA Network guy...
 

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Word son? Why didn't you post the 1st part of the wikipedia page you got this from? Here, I'll do it for you:

The National Basketball Association achieved a rapid rise and fall in television ratings from the 1997-98 season, when ratings for the NBA Finals achieved a record high, to the 2002-03 season, when ratings for the same event hit an all-time record low. Blame for this rise and fall has been pinned on the destructive NBA lockout which occurred right after the 1998 season. The lockout wiped out thirty-two games of the 1998-99 season and caused fan apathy. Other blame has been put on the retirement of Chicago Bulls star Michael Jordan, also on backlash against the "hip-hop" culture of the league, and as well as heavy competition from prime time programming such as American Idol, the CSI shows, and Dancing With The Stars.

Despite the problems in the early-to-mid-2000s (decade), the NBA's regular season ratings average was (and is) on par with Major League Baseball's, and ratings for the finals continue to outdraw competing events that occur during the same month, such as golf's U.S. Open and the Stanley Cup Finals.
Since 2007, NBA ratings have steadily risen, thanks to the resurgence of nationally recognized NBA teams, their star power, and their annual presence in the NBA Finals. Game 7 of the 2010 NBA Finals had the best rating for a basketball game in the contemporary NBA on ABC era, and the 2011 Finals held steady in the ratings department as well. Both series drew over a 10 rating, beating the World Series in consecutive years for the first time ever.
However, despite the declining TV ratings in the early 2000s (decade) and moderate ratings after, NBA's television audience is often younger, and thus very attractive to advertisers.

You're equating a dip in ratings with a loss of money. Not true. I'm talkin about money because you brought it up. It is a known fact there was a brief decline in popularity after MJ retired if you plan to change the argument to loss of popularity. You said 'money', so I'm talking bout the money. :yeshrug:

I don't consider that making money. They more than likely lost out on more dollars in that agreement because they came in with poorer numbers after MJ left. So while they made money, they could have possibly made more but lost that viewer leverage in negotiating for a new TV deal. So bringing that up is a moot point.
 

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It's funny that you feel this way with your proclivity for dominate post play..

My love for post players doesn't mean I can't appreciate great wing play, plus the wing players now are better than the early 00s when everyone was shooting 40% :scusthov: Besides, Timothy is still around :yes: and there will be another great big man soon.

Maybe I just don't pay attention to ESPN as much as yall do because I haven't really allowed it to effect how I view and analyze the game and this crop of players... I'm more of a NBA Network guy...

I'd never watch the channel if it weren't for the Wednesday/Friday/Playoff games being on there. Sometimes I forget to change the channel at halftime and am bombarded with feelings of rage and hatred, like I want the set to be engulfed in flames with no escape in sight :birdman:
 

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That's my thing. This is the best quality of basketball we're seeing now since the 80's IMO. Sooooo much young talent in the league now....but we're not allowed to enjoy it because we have to keep looking at the NBA's past and MJ.

ESPN needs to turn into a pillar of salt with all of the looking behind they're doing.

Enjoy living in the present. Enjoy the moment....

I wouldn't even have a problem with it if they didn't always do it as a way of tearing down the younger guys.

And the nostalgia goggles people wear is so fukking transparent. Can you imagine if a player today dropped 63 in a playoff game and LOST? they'd be crucified as being a selfish player who can't will his team to a win.
 
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