why is Lamelo Ball ranked 18th in his class?

[Collateral]

how many elite point guards play defense?

Most of them still do

Curry
Westbrook
Conley
Lillard when he feels like it
Beverly
Chris Paul was an excellent defender
Lowry

 

[Born2BKing]

according to espn rankings he's ranked 8th and the top PG in the nation in his class
ESPN Basketball Recruiting - Super 60 Player Rankings

he has his flaws just like any other 15 year old such as bad shot selection and subpar defense, but defense isnt even a priority for our mvp runner up or our 2 time unanimous mvp.. that being said the only difference between lamelos flaws and these other ranked pg's is that he is under a microscope and they arent

dude went to oak hill as a sophomore against older high ranked players and ate their food, dude puts up numbers against every ranked prospect coli scouts would say is better than him.. offensively he's elite he just needs to make better decisions

but coli scouts gonna tell u he's average and their lil cousin who plays for the rec league would eat his food

That's why you just got to sit back and let them hate lol. I actually watched full games of Chino Hills over the last couple years. Melo is a beast and most of the basketball heads I know outside of the coli say the same.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

15 year old who shoots with two hands is going to be a future NBA star twilight zone for real

 

[Muzion]

Pretty much everything that's been said in this thread is true, yet doesn't matter, since Lamelo is much younger than everyone else. Lavar intentionally puts his sons on bad teams, against better competition, so they have to figure it out. His passing has improved a lot recently, gotta be patient when evaluating a 15 year old who's still growing into his body.

 

[DonKnock]

Are yall even watching enough of him to even be giving this level of analysis? Like, hasn't he only been in high school for like 1 year lol? Or are yall just basing this on sensationalized youtube videos? A lot of the shyt yall saying may be true, but if you've never watched the nikka play multiple, FULL games, then shut the fukk up.

I've watched about 5-10 full games of just LaMelo against various levels of competition and extended clips from other games, not highlights. There's tons of film on him because of the AAU circuit.

He is not efficient on offense. His offense comes from volume, end of story. When you break it down between half court and transition the disparity really shows. Even against normal High School competition he doesn't operate effectively in the half court. All he really takes in the half court are tough pull up shots and he's always fading, setting his mechanics up poorly for the future.
He doesn't have the passing ability Lonzo does.
His handle is more show than actual substance.
PNR game lacking.
Does nothing off ball to get himself open.



All of these deficiencies are glaring when he goes up against equal level of competition:

 

[Born2BKing]

I've watched about 5-10 full games of just LaMelo against various levels of competition and extended clips from other games, not highlights. There's tons of film on him because of the AAU circuit.

He is not efficient on offense. His offense comes from volume, end of story. When you break it down between half court and transition the disparity really shows. Even against normal High School competition he doesn't operate effectively in the half court. All he really takes in the half court are tough pull up shots and he's always fading, setting his mechanics up poorly for the future.
He doesn't have the passing ability Lonzo does.
His handle is more show than actual substance.
PNR game lacking.
Does nothing off ball to get himself open.



All of these deficiencies are glaring when he goes up against equal level of competition:

Now you just hating brah.

 

[DonKnock]

Now you just hating brah.

I should be charging for that level of analysis..

Thread title asks why he's ranked #18, and I just told you exactly why

 

[Born2BKing]

I should be charging for that level of analysis..

Thread title asks why he's ranked #18, and I just told you exactly why

nikka you said "he not a better passer than lonzo" nikka Lonzo is 20 and in the NBA. That was hate my g.

 

[LurkMoar]

Most of them still do

Curry
Westbrook
Conley
Lillard when he feels like it
Beverly
Chris Paul was an excellent defender
Lowry

L


This guy has beverly as an elite guard and Conley

Everyone else on the list dont play defense

 

[DonKnock]

nikka you said "he not a better passer than lonzo" nikka Lonzo is 20 and in the NBA. That was hate my g.

I said he didn't have the same ability and his age doesn't negate that

Lonzo is a better passer than Dwight Howard, even though Dwight Howard is 31 and a multitime allstar and Lonzo is only 20, see it can work both ways

 

[Collateral]

L


This guy has beverly as an elite guard and Conley

Everyone else on the list dont play defense

Beverly is an elite defender. Conley is a top 10 player at PG.

 

[Basaglia]

Most of them still do

Curry
Westbrook
Conley
Lillard when he feels like it

Defensive Real Plus/Minus: minus-1.92 (No. 274)

Defensive Points Saved: minus-111.92 (No. 306)

Field-Goal Percentage Differential: 1.4 percent (No. 204)

On/Off Differential: 4.5 (No. 268)

 

[the cool]

I've watched about 5-10 full games of just LaMelo against various levels of competition and extended clips from other games, not highlights. There's tons of film on him because of the AAU circuit.

He is not efficient on offense. His offense comes from volume, end of story. When you break it down between half court and transition the disparity really shows. Even against normal High School competition he doesn't operate effectively in the half court. All he really takes in the half court are tough pull up shots and he's always fading, setting his mechanics up poorly for the future.
He doesn't have the passing ability Lonzo does.
His handle is more show than actual substance.
PNR game lacking.
Does nothing off ball to get himself open.



All of these deficiencies are glaring when he goes up against equal level of competition:

This breakdown is spot on.

 

[Hardaway]

according to espn rankings he's ranked 8th and the top PG in the nation in his class
ESPN Basketball Recruiting - Super 60 Player Rankings

he has his flaws just like any other 15 year old such as bad shot selection and subpar defense, but defense isnt even a priority for our mvp runner up or our 2 time unanimous mvp.. that being said the only difference between lamelos flaws and these other ranked pg's is that he is under a microscope and they arent

dude went to oak hill as a sophomore against older high ranked players and ate their food, dude puts up numbers against every ranked prospect coli scouts would say is better than him.. offensively he's elite he just needs to make better decisions

but coli scouts gonna tell u he's average and their lil cousin who plays for the rec league would eat his food

edit: he also outplayed ucla's top 2017-18 recruit jaylen hands and got the W

Kid is so ugly

You would like him

 

[Supa]

That D1 reality check is gonna be big for this kid and the middle brother.

I think Gelo will actually have a good college season and be better than expected. His has the strength and he's the best shooter of the 3 brothers. He'll put up points.

LaMelo is so frail and undisciplined I can't tell what his ceiling is.