Why is pop/catchy music frowned upon in hip-hop/R&B?

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

yet here you are like all my other fanboys, constantly dikkriding my opinions and asking for my attention.

It's well known that hip hop heads in that era weren't even fukking with Rappers Delight and they thought it was a terrible, corrupted presentation of hip hop. So your example has holes.

The rest of your shyt is one long juelz

Better leave my Nubian queen alone nah but fr wasn't Missy Elliot pop rap?

 

[SirBiatch]

No ones riding your dikk you narcissistic fukk

You wish You stay quoting me outta the blue. Even as of now, you're following me. I've got my son in this thread already attempting a derail. Y'all worship me. And for good reason: I know and feel way more than most of you.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

Yeah let's just ignore that rappers delight wasn't a obvious pop influence hip hop song you're being a revisionist

It wasnt.

It was cats rapping over a disco Iinstrumental.

Wow...iimagine that....rappers rapping over a instrumental.

 

[NotaPAWG]

You wish You stay quoting me outta the blue. Even as of now, you're following me. I've got my son in this thread already attempting a derail. Y'all worship me. And for good reason: I know and feel way more than most of you.

Dude no ones following you and worshiping you just calling your idealistic not based on reality bullshyt.

The Beastie Boys had heavy pop influence and pop song structure as well as punk influence and guess who they influenced.. early Ice Cube And NWA..

 

[Killigraphy]

All the uninformed or lazy hip hop heads saying pop isn't part of the culture need to sit down. Dudes were rap/singing about "true love" since LL. Even Kool G Rap had "She loves me, she loves me not". Melodic/pop songs have existed since the start. It's only frowned upon by grandpa's who only listen to one genre, and its usually gangsta rap.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Naw OP, made a blanket statement that "the point" of music is to be catchy and popular. And I'm asking, if you agree with that, then why do you even fukk with the stuff that isn't catchy and fun

He said why is catchy stuff frowned upon

 

[SirBiatch]

Better leave my Nubian queen alone nah but fr wasn't Missy Elliot pop rap?

She was.

But she was popular because of how brilliant she was. Not because her music fit into the mold of what you would consider pop at that time.

It's a little hard to explain. You would have had to been there. 90s pop sounds VERY different from 90s hip hop. It's not until the very late 90s when shyt started to blend

 

[Killigraphy]

Rap music doesnt debut on pop charts (unless its a marketing plan)

Your parenthesis is a scapegoat at best, since everything that makes money is a marketing plan. However, Nelly and LL have appeared on Pop charts..though now I'm sure you'll play the "Marketing plan" card.

 

[NotaPAWG]

It wasnt.

It was cats rapping over a disco Iinstrumental.

Wow...iimagine that....rappers rapping over a instrumental.

Yes it was. regarding of them rapping over a disco instrumental the actual lyrics and writing was pop song structure

 

[IllmaticDelta]

my dude, can you stop posting vaguely-connected links and actually speak your point?

The genre of Hip hop has been pop for over 25 years? how?

HipHOp has been mass consumed by the masses since the mid to late 80's and by the early to mid 90's it was already global...by the late 90's, to a large degree it dominated every other form of music. Remember this thread?

This how the Billboard charts looked back in 1993

^^if that's not pop, I don't know what is

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

She was.

But she was popular because of how brilliant she was. Not because her music fit into the mold of what you would consider pop at that time.

It's a little hard to explain. You would have had to been there. 90s pop sounds VERY different from 90s hip hop. It's not until the very late 90s when shyt started to blend

She was popular because she was a safe negro that's why she was selling more than Foxy Brown, Trina and Lil Kim even though their music was garbage too you and made tbh , I agree with some of your points but I never will understand why you find any of Missy Elliot or Ludacris music good at all"Look at me I'm a weirdo doing weird music videos with big heads n shyt" like breh she wasn't creative Busta did all that creative music video shyt before her and his music was actually good

 

[10bandz]

HipHOp has been mass consumed by the masses since the mid to late 80's and by the early to mid 90's it was already global...by the late 90's, to a large degree it dominated every other form of music. Remember this thread?

This how the Billboard charts looked back in 1993

^^if that's not pop, I don't know what is

The guy you're talking to didn't even hear Illmatic or Shook Ones Pt 2 until 2003. He doesn't know about Billboard charts in America because he was in Saudi Arabia playing hide and seek in the dark with Arabs

 

[NotaPAWG]

Guarantee this fakkit Sir Biatch gonna dodge the fact that one of the biggest and most iconic influenced hip hop groups was influenced by a pop influenced hip hop groups and rappers from an entire different coast cause it doesn't fit into his idealism and revisionism of hip hop

Dude loves pretending he knows about hip hop more than he actually does yet shyts all over legends and never heard most classic regarded albums until 2 years ago

 

[SirBiatch]

Dude no ones following you and worshiping you just calling your idealistic not based on reality bullshyt.

 

[Collateral]

I don't have a problem with pop music. I have a problem when RAPPERS create pop music. When I listen to a hip hop artist I expect to hear them rap, not sing melodies over a bubbly beat, fukk no