Why isn't Wale bigger/more popular than he is?

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that's more so a bad thing in the long run if you lose street credibility(black fan//core-fans) you be left with fakes who just like your music for the moment.

from future going too pop and had Hannah Montana roaming the galaxy with him or the middle 2000 when fif was say fuk the hood and taking shots at the south while taking too long in the U.K touring

He's been doing that for YEARS tho.

The Mixtape About Nothing, and More About Nothing were well received by his core fanbase.
 

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Honestly, has there ever been a mainstream label that sold less music to Whites than MMG?

This label been getting hated by sooo many black folks its disgusting to me , even i hated them when i was a gunit stan until i hit college and see soo many black folks getting it. If they was independent and had big krit and nipsey would been top five label :ohlawd:


 
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He has a run-on sentence flow

His delivery is predictable, and entertainment is rooted in the unexpected, shock and awe...


  • Back in '05 Kanye was on that controversial, talk-too-damn-much a$$hole wave, and I think Wale tried to emulate that, without realizing that Kanye had beatmaking talent, connections, and a production discography under his belt to help him bounce back and become loveable again. So when he went on his rants and shyt he lost alotta people permanently.
  • He also tried to jump in Kanye's "Superficial yet backpacker" style and I think he alienates a bulk of the fanbase of both sides. Not to mention, you're in a lane someone else owns, like someone else said. Then he made songs for the ladies and they stuck so he's riding that till the wheels fall off. But drake had that lane since your first album.
  • He doesn't drop consistently, so his relevance falters, and that affects interest in his shyt. And he doesn't have memorable media runs to make people look forward to him coming back on the scene. Everything you do remember about him is negative.
  • He doesn't pay attention to the scene so he makes bad moves. I mean maybe it's the label. But for example his first album was in '09 Drake had his first wave. Pretty girls was on the radio for damn near 2 years before that album dropped. Second in '11 that was J.Cole and Big Sean. etc.
  • He doesn't have hits. I mean, he has hits if you're DMV, I bought ambition and but he doesn't have "hits" hits


TL: DR - i typed a whole lot of shyt, but basically, being a rapper is like being a man, and the fans are the female, and wale is a "nice guy" competing with jocks, players, and fake hoteps for the same bytch, and he isn't doing anything to stand out from the crowd and sustain "her" interest beyond simpin and rockin new sneakers
 

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The dollar and a dream concerts for a dollar. It's clearly not about money for Cole. It's all about the core of his music. He don't even put out songs like "Can't get though" anymore.

I can say, this is the best crop of new gen rappers we had in along long time in Hip Hop. I know Drake is annoying but when has a pop rapper not been annoying.
Pretty much. Mainstream hip-hop hit it's low point in the mid-00's-Late-00's. 2004-2009 was just bad on the mainstream level. I find it funny when folks complain about hip-hop now. That underground reineisance in the 00's pretty much sparked what we have now in the mainstream. Kdot, Cole, Wiz, Wale, Sean, Krit, Black Hippy, Future, all kinda bubbled in the same period on the underground tip. They all bring their own styles. Then guys like YG, Migos, Rich Homie, Thugger, Fetty, add their own flair.
 

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Bad and Lotus Flower Bomb were absolute smashes.

But then again maybe this whole "his looks" angle does play into it. Cause im pretty sure those two songs rang off harder in the black community than ANY Drake or Cole single. Besides maybe (Started from the bottom)

Yet maybe the chicks aint take those songs to heart, because of the man who was delivering it to them :patrice:
They were hip-hop smashes (and they woulda been had Wale not been on it) but I'm talking bigger than that. A huge hit or huge feature(s)
 

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This label been getting hated by sooo many black folks its disgusting to me , even i hated them when i was a gunit stan until i hit college and see some many black folks getting it. If they was independent and had big krit and nipsey would been top five label :ohlawd:



yea surprised Ross didnt try to make it a fully indy label.
 

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dude that is exactly what I said in the last sentence of the post you quoted :wtf:
yeah i seen that but im saying both of them did somewhat mainstream songs cole did more but cole won the race after the Ferguson stuff and twitter shyt(like you said ) but that was the real turning point all happen last year
 

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Sold 100k+ first week on last album and he has a solid fan base :ehh: dropped a song yesterday too :ehh:
 

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Might be the only label that don't give a fukk about a White reach that's mainstream.
Things might've been diffirent if it wasn't for Rick Ross's molly line in UOENO. He had that Reebok deal and was in all sorts of commercials. Who knows what MMG would've become. But, MMG seems like the Tyler Perry's of the mainstream labels. They're hated by many, yet don't care, and they gladly continue to play their Chitlin circuit of clubs where the more Urban non-White crowds congregate. And they do this until BET Awards season. MMG has the perfect roster to cater to the college sisters and the rougher around the edge sisters. You might catch Gunplay in a ratchet spot one night, than catch Wale at a spoken word event the next.
 

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.....also a plant that got push and force with hoptel lyrics and still can't match the Manufactured hype they gave him when you compare to his peers
what :russ:

his peers aren't even in the same ocean as the man :russ:

Kendrick is by far and wide the leader of the new school, at least rapping wise
 
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Things might've been diffirent if it wasn't for Rick Ross's molly line in UOENO. He had that Reebok deal and was in all sorts of commercials. Who knows what MMG would've become. But, MMG seems like the Tyler Perry's of the mainstream labels. They're hated by many, yet don't care, and they gladly continue to play their Chitlin circuit of clubs where the more Urban non-White crowds congregate. And they do this until BET Awards season. MMG has the perfect roster to cater to the college sisters and the rougher around the edge sisters. You might catch Gunplay in a ratchet spot one night, than catch Wale at a spoken word event the next.
no one hates MMG

I swear y'all take this message board BS too serious
 

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Ouch........he has no friends in the industry.
 
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