Why liberals should stop trying to ‘help’ black Americans

[theworldismine13]

You're just throwing catch-phrases around and not proving anything. You don't even have an argument.

"Actual analysis of the effectiveness of liberal policies" compared to what? The Conservative policies that A.) Don't exist or B.) Purposefully made things worse?
Give us actual examples then and not your narrow minded opinion of the world and your perception of Blacks and Liberals. We don't have to make your arguments for you.


You've admitted Conservatives are racist. Alright. You tell us to split the vote...

You're clearly not a very bright guy but what you're saying is as ignorant as saying Blacks shouldn't vote. Conservatives aren't going to bend to minorities wants, needs, or demands and there's decades of evidence that supports that. And that if there were even the vaguest possibility they would, why would you? This is a group of people that would like to see you dead, there's no if's and's or but's about it. That's the way that it is and nothing will change that. It's unconscionable to support a group that wants to see you fail.

Do you honestly expect people to take you seriously?

well first of all lets get one thing straight, politics is not the key to solving issues that black people have, the key is business and capitalism, politics is a secondary issue

second of all whether an idea is liberal or conservative is irrelevant, what matters is whether the policy is effective or not

third racism is just one factor out of many, its not the sole way for black people to analyze politics

fourth of all the goal of black people, im my humble opinion, is to dominate both parties, im not interested in asking which side well address the needs of blacks, cuz i dont think black people need "help", im interested in how to take over, my ideology is black domination

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

You're just throwing catch-phrases around nd not proving anything. You don't even have an argument.

"Actual analysis of the effectiveness of liberal policies" compared to what? The Conservative policies that A.) Don't exist or B.) Purposefully made things worse?
Give us actual examples then and not your narrow minded opinion of the world and your perception of Blacks and Liberals. We don't have to make your arguments for you.


You've admitted Conservatives are racist. Alright. You tell us to split the vote...

You're clearly not a very bright guy but what you're saying is as ignorant as saying Blacks shouldn't vote. Conservatives aren't going to bend to minorities wants, needs, or demands and there's decades of evidence that supports that. And that if there were even the vaguest possibility they would, why would you? This is a group of people that would like to see you dead, there's no if's and's or but's about it. That's the way that it is and nothing will change that. It's unconscionable to support a group that wants to see you fail.

Do you honestly expect people to take you seriously?

He's been saying the same shyt for like over 5 years and still has yet to articulate his stance in a manner that makes coherent sense.

 

[theworldismine13]

My stance on everything makes perfect sense, the fact that you disagree with it doesn't mean anything

 

[Rekkapryde]

While I fukks with some republic/conservative ideas (and truth be told nikkaz are WAY more conservative than cacs think), the fact that Republicans house groups of individuals that are blatantly racist is why we don't fukk with them as a whole. And yeah while "Liberals" are way too enabling in their policies towards black people, it damn sure beats the other option.

A true fiscally conservative but socially tolerant party is what I wish would spin off with the current Republican party and maybe I'll fukk with them depending on their policies towards minorities. Let those tea party racists cacs live in their own delusion.

 

[OCCAMS_RAZOR]

well first of all lets get one thing straight, politics is not the key to solving issues that black people have, the key is business and capitalism, politics is a secondary issue

No. No. NO!!

Politics is absolutely NOT a secondary issue. Also, the issues that black people currently face will not be solved simply by business or capitalism.

Again you're practicing selective memory and not paying attention to history or context. Following emancipation, an entrepreneurial spirit was promulgated in the black community by various people (Booker T Washington being the most notable). Black people being the creative people they are hurriedly took to this and the end result was a proliferation of black owned businesses (i.e. insurance companies, banks, grocery stores, etc). Mind you this was back in the nineteenth century. NINETEENTH CENTURY! Just like all Americans, black people understand business and capitalism very well, there's no sort of handicap we're ailing from.

Unsurprisingly, all of these businesses ended up being failures, due to a combination of a lack of business acumen on the part of the blacks, and duplicity on the part of the liberal whites who were assisting with these ventures. This trend of start a business, bust, start another business, bust, has continued well into the modern day.

Also, if you think about it, Jim Crow unintentionally fostered an entrepreneurial spirit in southern black communities. The majority of stores servicing the segregated blacks were black-owned. This is good right? Nope. When you tallied the profits up, these stores were almost always doing worse than similar black-owned stores up north, where the POLITICS was different and segregation was not a concern.

I highly suggest you read Frazier's Black Bourgeoisie as it covers this topic in full, complete with hard data.

 

[theworldismine13]

No. No. NO!!

Politics is absolutely NOT a secondary issue. Also, the issues that black people currently face will not be solved simply by business or capitalism.

Again you're practicing selective memory and not paying attention to history or context. Following emancipation, an entrepreneurial spirit was promulgated in the black community by various people (Booker T Washington being the most notable). Black people being the creative people they are hurriedly took to this and the end result was a proliferation of black owned businesses (i.e. insurance companies, banks, grocery stores, etc). Mind you this was back in the nineteenth century. NINETEENTH CENTURY! Just like all Americans, black people understand business and capitalism very well, there's no sort of handicap we're ailing from.

Unsurprisingly, all of these businesses ended up being failures, due to a combination of a lack of business acumen on the part of the blacks, and duplicity on the part of the liberal whites who were assisting with these ventures. This trend of start a business, bust, start another business, bust, has continued well into the modern day.

Also, if you think about it, Jim Crow unintentionally fostered an entrepreneurial spirit in southern black communities. The majority of stores servicing the segregated blacks were black-owned. This is good right? Nope. When you tallied the profits up, these stores were almost always doing worse than similar black-owned stores up north, where the POLITICS was different and segregation was not a concern.

I highly suggest you read Frazier's Black Bourgeoisie as it covers this topic in full, complete with hard data.

i wouldnt cosign your history of black business, the main setback for black business was integration, im not saying we should have segregation back but the reality is that integration had some negative side effects

the main problem in the black community is education and black people having an anti academic culture

second of all its business and capital

third off is politics

those are the priorities, imo, in that order

nowadays, i dont really see how much more political power there is to be had by black people, there are entire cities and towns completely ran by black people, about 10 percent of congress is black, there are black people in power all over the country, and the president is black, so i think we have gone as far as we can go with politics

i think black people should focus on shifting to an academic oriented culture education and capitalism, politics is whatever, i think we have beat that horse to death

 

[theworldismine13]

 

[DEAD7]

 

[MostReal]

Based on how little blacks have to show for their Democratic loyalty, questioning it seems fine... and even commendable.

that's true but this article is just terrible as others in here have pointed out easily

 

[tmonster]

Our people can continue to stew in lowered expectations and victim-hood. I guess that's always an option.

well, we have been and continue to be victimized and the era defining consensus amongst "experts" after the census of 1890 was that the black race was facing imminent extinction, so if the shoe fits

 

[theworldismine13]

Black Americans Failed by Good Intentions: An Interview with Jason Riley

 

[DEAD7]

I don't completely agree, but

 

[Serious]

Black Americans Failed by Good Intentions: An Interview with Jason Riley

Proceeds to smash pawg

@88m3

 

[NZA]

ive seen this man c00ning something terrible on fox during the ferguson fiasco.

 

[DEAD7]

Resorting to personal attacks rather than addressing the validity of what the man said?

Higher Learning.