Why Melo's playoff record is a cop out and grossly overstated.

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

If he loses in the 1st round the better team won.Thats what it means.

NBA Playoffs are a 7 game series not the one and done NCAA tournament. Its all about matchups and the better team wins.

I get all that.

But has every star player that has progressed through the rounds always got through because they played a weaker team and not played a better team, but they were the DIFFERENCE in winning and losing?


But are you going to have that train of thought - if Melo has a less than stellar performance or is dominating the ball too much and gets his team out of rhythm or doesn't go beyond his 'role' when he's required?

Are you still gonna be content with giving the generic-on-the-fence excuse when his playoff career runs parallel to 1st round exits for the rest of his career?

 

[Illuminatos' Hairline]

Melo is not Lebron..

NOBODY IS..

You people need to realize that Lebron is something we have never seen before..

Stop comparing them.

Nobody is comparing them

Playoff basketball isnt a one man show Melo has talent and Has a talented team no excuses for that playoff record maybe in Denver but he's 3 years deep in trying to make it out of the first in the east.. well going on 3 years deep... Doesnt do it this year? no excuse or pass NONE

 

[Joe Sixpack]

I get all that.

But has every star player that has progressed through the rounds always got through because they played a weaker team and not played a better team, but they were the DIFFERENCE in winning and losing?


But are you going to have that train of thought - if Melo has a less than stellar performance or is dominating the ball too much and gets his team out of rhythm or doesn't go beyond his 'role' when he's required?

Are you still gonna be content with giving the generic-on-the-fence excuse when his playoff career runs parallel to 1st round exits for the rest of his career?

Lets let it all play out with Melo..

The book is still being written.

 

[Illuminatos' Hairline]

Name one superstar who has had little such success in the playoffs..

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Nobody is comparing them

Playoff basketball isnt a one man show Melo has talent and Has a talented team no excuses for that playoff record maybe in Denver but he's 3 years deep in trying to make it out of the first in the east.. well going on 3 years deep... Doesnt do it this year? no excuse or pass NONE

The teams in Denver were goin up against the Spurs and Lakers and shyt

'09 he had a decent squad and went to the WCF but the Nuggets had J.R. Smith and he's a knucklehead.. He made the dumb ass inbound pass and cost the Nuggets Game 5 I think in L.A.

The Nuggets had a better team then the L.A. Clippers in '05-06 and they still lost.

Other then that he never had a team that was good enough and he's not once in a generation, transcendent Lebron to carry you to the Finals with bums.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

I get all that.

But has every star player that has progressed through the rounds always got through because they played a weaker team and not played a better team, but they were the DIFFERENCE in winning and losing?


But are you going to have that train of thought - if Melo has a less than stellar performance or is dominating the ball too much and gets his team out of rhythm or doesn't go beyond his 'role' when he's required?

Are you still gonna be content with giving the generic-on-the-fence excuse when his playoff career runs parallel to 1st round exits for the rest of his career?

You're moving the goalposts now, and making a claim based on the future as if you have a crystal ball. We are analyzing his playoff record to date, Ms Cleo.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Name one superstar who has had little such success in the playoffs..

Dog, are you a retard? KG and TMAC have been examples used, and both players were considered top 5 for multiple seasons during their prime. TMAC never made it out of the first round, playing against inferior competition compared to Melo I might add, and KG was on an almost exact career trajectory as Melo, until he was traded to Boston and paired with Rondo/Pierce/Allen.

Have you ever watched the NBA? Do you realize this is a team game? Outside of the series with the Jazz and clips, there is no reasonable expectation for those Melo teams to advance, so stop being dumb.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You're moving the goalposts now, and making a claim based on the future as if you have a crystal ball. We are analyzing his playoff record to date, Ms Cleo.

That's not moving the goalposts at all.

I asked if he's going to be keep throwing that "If he loses in the 1st round, than the better team won" nonsense regardless of how melo played. I was working on his notion, not what I think's gonna happen to Melo in the future.

 

[Illuminatos' Hairline]

Dog, are you a retard? KG and TMAC have been examples used, and both players were considered top 5 for multiple seasons during their prime. TMAC never made it out of the first round, playing against inferior competition compared to Melo I might add, and KG was on an almost exact career trajectory as Melo, until he was traded to Boston and paired with Rondo/Pierce/Allen.

Have you ever watched the NBA? Do you realize this is a team game? Outside of the series with the Jazz and clips, there is no reasonable expectation for those Melo teams to advance, so stop being dumb.

And did they not get Heat melo is starting to recieve calm yo ass down lil nikka any superstar who doesnt live up to the hype takes this shyt stop acting like lil melo is the only one is all im saying.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

And did they not get Heat melo is starting to recieve calm yo ass down lil nikka any superstar who doesnt live up to the hype takes this shyt stop acting like lil melo is the only one is all im saying.

I get that...He is a star making a huge salary, and playing in NY. Taking the heat comes with the territory...but I also dont think its unfair to put his losses into context, because people are acting as if Melo is the reason those teams didnt advance, which is beyond absurd.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Because Bron got it.. So willl Fatmelo bet yall wasnt haven't problems about everyone giving LBJ shyt when he was getting eliminated.

Ohhh you wanna compare teams faced?


05-06
LeBron lost in the second round to the defending Eastern Conf Champs the team that made it to the finals the year before.

06-07
Played again but beat the defending Eastern Conf Champs to make it to the finals and lost to the spurs all be it a sweep ill give you that..

07-08
Lost to the soon to be World Champion Boston Celtics

08-09
Lost to The Magic that went on to the finals in a series them nikkas shouldve won.

09-10 Lost to the Celtics who would later take the defending world Champs to game 7..

Melos made it out of the 1st round one fukking time.. LeBron lost to the conference champs every single time except once and that was to the world champion Spurs..


NOW you nikkas wanna compare rosters we can do that too..

These are the teams lebron beat in Cleavland

2006 Washington (42-40)
2007 Washington (41-41) , New Jersey(41-41) Detroit (53-29)
2008 Washington (43-39)
2009 Detroit (39-43), Atlanta (47-35)
2010 Chicago (41-41)

Both melo and lebron beat one 50 win team in 7 years in the playoffs

 

[Illuminatos' Hairline]

I get that...He is a star making a huge salary, and playing in NY. Taking the heat comes with the territory...but I also dont think its unfair to put his losses into context, because people are acting as if Melo is the reason those teams didnt advance, which is beyond absurd.

I fell ya we cool

 

[NYC Rebel]

These are the teams lebron beat in Cleavland

2006 Washington (42-40)
2007 Washington (41-41) , New Jersey(41-41) Detroit (53-29)
2008 Washington (43-39)
2009 Detroit (39-43), Atlanta (47-35)
2010 Chicago (41-41)

Both melo and lebron beat one 50 win team in 7 years in the playoffs

Great post....

 

[Youngdev]

Man yall need to let my nikka cook stop making all these threads

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[AVXL]

@ all of this. The posts in here keep getting more idiotic, day by day.

"Cp3 is looked at as a leader and franchise builder (right or wrong)" - what the fuk does that even mean?

Look at the Hornets after CP3, look at the Nuggets after Melo. Now look at the Clippers with CP3 and what they were before him. Knicks didnt make the playoffs before Melo & with Melo they win ONE playoff game in 2 years. That's elite?

What the fukk does the national criticism got do with REALITY?

If you're telling me Cp3's a leader and will do whatever to make his team win - than why hasn't he done shyt in the playoffs?

CP3 has taken his team to the 2nd round twice, also he's not the worst playoff "winner" of all time. Melo is. You talking like CP3 wins one or 2 playoff games a yr. Oh my bad. THAT'S Melo. CP3 has been past the first round more than ONCE in his life though, that don't count for nothing now?

Are you telling me what the media tells the public, it's basically gospel?

Are you telling me he doesn't get criticized like melo because there's a media perception of him being a leader and will do whatever it takes to make his team win - yet doesn't win shyt and therefore shouldn't be lumped into the same category as melo because.... well because the media said so?

Of course not. That's a dumb question to ask (what the media tells the public is gospel), but to act like perception isn't important is dumb too. Ask the Coli who you'd rather have between CP3 & Melo & it would be in CP3's favor overwhelmingly.

You do realise Cp3 has never been out of the second round? If he gets tossed out of the 2nd round or before this season and the bulk of the media criticism isn't towards him, how's his situation any different than melo's?

by that logic - If Melo shouldn't be considered elite, than why should Cp3? - he's never lead his team deep into the playoffs.

Like I said earlier, the media considers CP3 more of a leader & elite level player than Melo. Most non biased observers would probably agree to that too so yea CP3 probably will get a pass if the Clippers flake out in the first or 2nd round.

As for why one should one be considered elite & not the other. CP3 defends, passes & can score at an elite level. Runs his team at an elite level. Outside of scoring, what does Melo do at an elite level? Anything? Melo's game isn't as well rounded as CP3 & most non biased observers would agree. He's also not a leader. He's the best player on that team, clearly, but he's not a leader.

Look deeper than just the stats, look deeper than the playoff records, CP3 is elite, Melo is a very good player who's an elite scorer. The criticism of Melo would decrease SIGNIFICANTLY if people like you would stop trying to say Melo's elite & critique him a level below that. Y'all like to lower expectations for him anyway so let's start that movement & maybe we wouldn't be so critical of him for not having done shyt in the playoffs.