Why No Smoke or Conspiracy Theories for Ozempic? People are Lining Up to Get This Shot

Gloxina

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I don't think its that deep :manny:
I had folks questioning or even tryna TELL me I'm on that bullshyt and I never heard of it in my life :martin: It ain't MY FAULT I'm a dedicated muhfukka to my health goals and you ain't... yOu ChEaTeD hUh??? :rudy:


Fitness IG has one of the strongest followings out there. People are ACTIVE and like active.
EXACTLY.


Over xmas one of my uncles was like “you look amazing (I felt bad cuz we were with some of my bigger relatives). Keep it up. If you stay in the gym you don’t need to be like these ppl running to get a shot to lose weight”.


I was like “ :picard::picard::picard: Unc not at Xmas” but he felt like he had to get that off his chest lmao

That shyt is for ppl with diabetes.



The average person needs to just focus on eating right and exercising. Strength training will literally change your life.
 

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I guess I wasn't crystal clear, the people who are most likely to start and spread the conspiracies are not in the group of people spend good money to take the drug.

All the usual chemical/biological/genetic fear mongering folks
  • Fluoride
  • Red Dyes in the food
  • GMO
  • Soy
  • Seed Oils
Aren't really spending 1,000 bucks a month to inject themselves with these drugs.

Now if GLP-1 was on every street corner, in all of our foods, etc - then they'd pop up, talmbout the Pharmaceutical/Industrial complex or some other nonsense.

But since folks gotta go through a lot of stuff to take it, the dummies are quiet...for now.
All those things are in foods that people want/need and are inescapable.

I disagree, make GLP-1 a Walgreens purchase drug and the majority of people who demonized the covid vaccine who would be cleaning out the pharmacy shelves. Especially with who's about to take office. They'll falsely credit "solving the obesity epidemic" that to him/GOP.
 

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I really have a problem with the continual lack of education and discussion about healthy weight loss

But there's been plenty of discussion and education on healthy weight loss, FOR DECADES.

James Brown in 1971



Forget about the diet, sit down and eat
Losing that weight you don't
Because the more you got the more I want
And it make me want to scream, hit me now

Tons of diets and diet fads (Atkins, Grapefruit, Hot Lemonade, The Mediterranean diet, Paleo, Keto, Warrior, Lion...)
Tons of exercise science, and exercise fads. (PE in schools, and Tae Bo, P90X, Crossfit)

Most people don't have what it takes to do it "the right way".

They lack the will power.

They can't stand up to the constant food messaging and availability, on top of what's in the food itself.

Anytime American style eating and food enters a country - obesity goes up.

It is what it is.
 

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She’s right. That’s for the “gym bros” and girls who make fitness their identity.

Normal ppl don’t GAF about how you lose the weight, it’s just that shortcuts all have a similar ending.

These meds have been around for a minute and no one was talking about them. Now you have ppl who are getting weird side effects because…they’re only using it for weight loss when they could’ve used other tried and true alternatives.


I like being able to pick up 40-45lb kettlebells without a second thought. I like breaking out into a random run because walking takes too long. 🤷🏾‍♀️
That has nothing to do with other ppl.

I just don’t want to hear anything when folks are having side effects to this stuff when they had other options.


AGAIN- this is a diabetic medication meant for a specific subset of the population, and it’s now being mass produced as a quick way to achieve something that most can achieve with a change in habits.

I have obese, diabetic folks in my fam who need the stuff. I get it. I also have folks who can lose 30-40lbs by eating clean and walking every day.

It’s about overall health. These drugs are supposed to be for extreme cases.
 

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All those things are in foods that people want/need and are inescapable.

We'll agree to disagree here.

I disagree, make GLP-1 a Walgreens purchase drug and the majority of people who demonized the covid vaccine who would be cleaning out the pharmacy shelves. Especially with who's about to take office. They'll falsely credit "solving the obesity epidemic" that to him/GOP.

GLP-1 drugs and better is another thing that poor people can't get easily.

They didn't say anything about EVs, until they felt they were mandated to buy one (because so many companies stopped making affordable ICE cars...according to these mouth breathers)

GLP-1 isn't being forced on anyone.

At best, there's a stealth advertising campaign for the drugs masquerading as news.

That's why the Qanon's are not saying Ozempic is from the lizard people.
 

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Sounds like a good thing to me. The problems that come with obesity are much more detrimental than the side effects of Ozempic.
Good point.


I guess the thing is drugs like this are for ppl like the folks you see on “600lb life”; all those TLC shows lol



Not the average person who is 40lbs overweight because they want to eat cake everyday.
 

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But there's been plenty of discussion and education on healthy weight loss, FOR DECADES.

James Brown in 1971





Tons of diets and diet fads (Atkins, Grapefruit, Hot Lemonade, The Mediterranean diet, Paleo, Keto, Warrior, Lion...)
Tons of exercise science, and exercise fads. (PE in schools, and Tae Bo, P90X, Crossfit)

Most people don't have what it takes to do it "the right way".

They lack the will power.

They can't stand up to the constant food messaging and availability, on top of what's in the food itself.

Anytime American style eating and food enters a country - obesity goes up.

It is what it is.

I disagree. As someone who lost 52lbs naturally through proper diet and exercise I can tell you that will power has little to do with this. I was in the gym 4-5 a week, tried every diet, and nothing was working for me. I see fat people in the gym on the treadmills and spin class, sweating their asses off. They’re dedicated and working but they aren’t losing weight. Lizzo did an entire Peloton spin series and dances 2-3 a day on tour and in rehearsals but she’s still fat. You’re right there’s a lot of information out there but a lot of it contradicts itself. People don’t know who to believe. I’m so grateful I got lucky and found a good trainer who knows what they are talking about because I have had trainers that didn’t.
 

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A lot of drugs that were created for a secific reason are used for other reasons when evidence shows they can be used for other applications.

Ozempic is the same way.
 

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It’s not even needed. The average person can lose a ton of weight by eating just one healthy meal a day, and walking around the block a few times, 4 days a week. That requires a ton of discipline though…
 

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I disagree. As someone who lost 52lbs naturally through proper diet and exercise I can tell you that will power has little to do with this. I was in the gym 4-5 a week, tried every diet, and nothing was working for me. I see fat people in the gym on the treadmills and spin class, sweating their asses off. They’re dedicated and working but they aren’t losing weight. Lizzo did an entire Peloton spin series and dances 2-3 a day on tour and in rehearsals but she’s still fat. You’re right there’s a lot of information out there but a lot of it contradicts itself. People don’t know who to believe. I’m so grateful I got lucky and found a good trainer who knows what they are talking about because I have had trainers that didn’t.

I'm not sure what side you're arguing, but I'll say this

You cannot out run a bad diet.

I walk about 5 miles a day, and that takes 90-120 minutes, for about 500-600 calories.

I can drink a large soda and eat large fries and that's about 600 calories.

Taking in the calories - 5-10 minutes
Taking off the calories - 90-120 minutes.

There's considerable mental effort in NOT EATING BAD STUFF.

Most of the time
  • Shop for ingredients
  • Cook every meal
  • Prep every meal
  • Clean up after every meal
  • Have a meal plan
  • Deal with boredom of the same meals
  • Deal with the laziness of preparing different meals
The dish washing alone drives me up the wall.

The alternative?

Buying food that usually tastes great and has little hassle. Which I used to do without thinking about. (which most people do without thinking about)
I could easily spend 80 bucks on Uber Eats just for myself. (6 figs, 6 certs, not worried about the $$ like a lot of Coli Pocket Watchers)

I was more worried about the uber driver picking it up and dropping it off before it got cold...Forgetting the milkshake.

The American Corporate system has made buying breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snacks as easy as possible.

And that is what has happened to America, Europe, and most countries that develop. You need Japanese levels of coordination and conformity to not fall victim to how the game works.

It's not like there was a sudden collective loss of human will power from the 90's to the 00s.

Instead, a multi-trillion dollar industry has optimized it's business to directly attack the part of the brain that triggers hunger.
  • Real Commercials
  • Stealth Commercials like News spots and Social Media influencers
  • Vending Machines
  • Convenience Stores
  • Grocery stores with ready items, or easy to cook items
  • Fast Food
  • Fast Casual
  • Casual
  • Instagram Worthy Places
  • Engineered Junk Food
  • Chef Optimized Real Food (they use a ton of salt and butter in most places to get things to taste better than you make it at home)
We live in a world where sociopaths make money off of pinging your deepest desires.
  • Clickbait/Rage Bait
  • Attention Economy
  • Sex Sells
  • Race/Gender/Identity - social need to be in the "in" group and not in the "out" group
  • Violence
And Food.

So when I say that folks don't stand a chance - they lack the will power - I'm saying they're being attacked from all angles to CONSUME.

Our collective inability to cook like our grandparents is a direct result concerted efforts to make anything tedious "easy and convenient"

No one should be surprised that Americans are fat.

Same with Mexicans, and Filipinos and Germans, and everyone else that adopts American style capitalism and applies it towards their food.

Having been to China and Thailand in recent years - a lot of fatties - and both of those places are slowly adopting our economic system.
Cambodia on the other hand (Vietnam as well) - skinny to the point you think there's some major malnutrition.
 

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I'm not sure what side you're arguing, but I'll say this

You cannot out run a bad diet.

I walk about 5 miles a day, and that takes 90-120 minutes, for about 500-600 calories.

I can drink a large soda and eat large fries and that's about 600 calories.

Taking in the calories - 5-10 minutes
Taking off the calories - 90-120 minutes.

There's considerable mental effort in NOT EATING BAD STUFF.

Most of the time
  • Shop for ingredients
  • Cook every meal
  • Prep every meal
  • Clean up after every meal
  • Have a meal plan
  • Deal with boredom of the same meals
  • Deal with the laziness of preparing different meals
The dish washing alone drives me up the wall.

The alternative?

Buying food that usually tastes great and has little hassle. Which I used to do without thinking about. (which most people do without thinking about)
I could easily spend 80 bucks on Uber Eats just for myself. (6 figs, 6 certs, not worried about the $$ like a lot of Coli Pocket Watchers)

I was more worried about the uber driver picking it up and dropping it off before it got cold...Forgetting the milkshake.

The American Corporate system has made buying breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snacks as easy as possible.

And that is what has happened to America, Europe, and most countries that develop. You need Japanese levels of coordination and conformity to not fall victim to how the game works.

It's not like there was a sudden collective loss of human will power from the 90's to the 00s.

Is it really that hard though?

Only speaking for myself but I've never had to go on some strict diet or extreme exercise plan in order to not be obese. I go to the gym like 1-2x a week at most and generally eat what I want (within reason) and don't count calories. Nor do I cook every day or meal plan.

I've never been overweight at all :yeshrug: not even 170...maybe it's genetics but I've never had to do all this extreme shyt, only thing I do really is avoid soda
 
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you can't cry about ozempic being for people with diabetes when people with diabetes can also get regular with diet and exercise.
my dad has diabetes and regulates his a1c with diet and exercise, he's not crying about ozempic and has never taken those type of meds.

#goodforthegoosegoodforthegander
 

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Hasn't most of these recent conspiracies been from conservatives who get them from Russian bot farms spamming social media? If Russia decides ozempic is bad for the republicans then they'll tell Elon and Tariq who will tell #bothsiders to spread the message.
 
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