Why No Smoke or Conspiracy Theories for Ozempic? People are Lining Up to Get This Shot

[MikelArteta]

Minoxidil​

Minoxidil, when used for hypertension, is generally reserved for use in severe hypertension patients who do not respond to at least two agents and a diuretic.

It's now used as a hair loss medication.

Finasteride​

Finasteride has been used for the treatment of symptomatic benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) in men with an enlarged prostate.

It's largely used now as a hair loss medication.


A lot of drugs that were created for a secific reason are used for other reasons when evidence shows they can be used for other applications.

Ozempic is the same way.

viagara too if i'm not mistaken

 

[Wildin]

Minoxidil​

Minoxidil, when used for hypertension, is generally reserved for use in severe hypertension patients who do not respond to at least two agents and a diuretic.

It's now used as a hair loss medication.

Finasteride​

Finasteride has been used for the treatment of symptomatic benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) in men with an enlarged prostate.

It's largely used now as a hair loss medication.


A lot of drugs that were created for a secific reason are used for other reasons when evidence shows they can be used for other applications.

Ozempic is the same way.

Viagra (sildenafil) was originally developed to treat high blood pressure and angina, a type of chest pain associated with coronary heart disease.

 

[Wildin]

• Abdominal or stomach pain, cramping, or burning
• black, tarry stools
• bloody or cloudy urine
• change in consciousness
• chest pain or discomfort
• confusion
• constipation
• convulsions, severe or continuing
• dark urine
• decreased frequency or amount of urine
• diarrhea
• difficult breathing
• drowsiness
• fainting
• fast breathing
• feeling that something terrible will happen
• fever
• general tiredness and weakness
• greatly decreased frequency of urination or amount of urine
• headache
• heartburn
• increased thirst
• indigestion
• irregular heartbeat
• light-colored stools
• loss of appetite
• loss of consciousness
• lower back or side pain
• muscle cramping and weakness
• muscle tremors
• nausea or vomiting
• nervousness
• numbness or tingling in the hands, feet, or lips
• panic
• rapid, deep breathing
• restlessness
• seizures
• skin rash
• stomach cramps
• swelling of the face, fingers, or lower legs
• unusual bleeding or bruising
• unusual tiredness or weakness
• upper right abdominal or stomach
• vomiting of blood or material that looks like coffee grounds
• weakness or heaviness of the legs
• weight gain
• yellow eyes and skin

Spoiler

Aspirin side effects

Aspirin (oral route)

www.mayoclinic.org

take aspirin brehs

 

[Wildin]

Contrary to what they might believe, being on Ozempic doesn't just cause people to lose fat. It causes people to lose a lot of muscle that they'll probably never gain back (especially if they stay on it).

This is false. If what you were thinking was true you'd just have a bunch of frail fat blobs barely mobile because their muscles atrophied but are still fat.

You lose some muscle while taking this jab but you lose fat and muscles grow, as long as you don't live a sedentary lifestyle.

Is it really that hard though?

Only speaking for myself but I've never had to go on some strict diet or extreme exercise plan in order to not be obese. I go to the gym like 1-2x a week at most and generally eat what I want (within reason) and don't count calories. Nor do I cook every day or meal plan.

I've never been overweight at all not even 170...maybe it's genetics but I've never had to do all this extreme shyt, only thing I do really is avoid soda

It is hard.

People don't eat because they are just hungry.

And in a society where capitalism rules and there's something to eat for every moment of the day and a name to go with it, breakfast, brunch, lunch, afternoon snack, dinner, supper, dessert, midnight snack and it's all marketed. Comfort food, cozy food, food when your sick, party food, light snack, quick bites, etc etc.

It's not a matter of hunger. Just like people don't just smoke when their body sends them a signal, "I need a nicotine buzz" or drink (alcohol) or caffeine.

Some people have what is called "food noise". It's constant thoughts of eating, what to eat, when to eat, how to eat. Combating that isn't just about not eating, even when not eating they're still thinking about it. Just like when people quit smoking, or drinking. It's not even the hunger or the physiological withdrawal or absence of the substance, it's the constant thoughts that cause people to break and over eat. And like any other addiction the shame and guilt afterwards which is a part of the addiction cycle.

For some people that have used these jabs it's actually turned off the food noise. And in unforseen circumstances with people who've used they've also had the intrusive thoughts that made them smoke (cigarettes) or drink (alcohol or coffee) and they were able to quit cold turkey.

 

[Wildin]

The problem I have with Ozempic is people don’t learn sustainable practices with their diet while using this med.

This is false.

Companies like weight watchers and noom offer these jabs along with therapy which teaching sustainable practices with their diet while using this med.

 

[OneManGang]

This is false.

Companies like weight watchers and noom offer these jabs along with therapy which teaching sustainable practices with their diet while using this med.

Nothing I said was false. You just offered up examples of scenarios where proper diet was learned in addition to drug therapy. Some, not all, will absolutely gain that weight back if they don’t change their lifestyle off of Ozempic

Edit: ehh I see how what I said led to your response

 

[acri1]

This is false. If what you were thinking was true you'd just have a bunch of frail fat blobs barely mobile because their muscles atrophied but are still fat.

You lose some muscle while taking this jab but you lose fat and muscles grow, as long as you don't live a sedentary lifestyle.

Nah, you lose fat and muscle, how much of each depends on the person. Someone that's only mildly overweight to start with (or isn't overweight) is definitely going to lose a significant amount of muscle if they stay on it long-term. It doesn't happen in a day or a month but we'll see how people on Ozempic are looking in a decade.

You can't really gain muscle on a caloric deficit, that goes against basic physiology. If you eat enough protein and stay active you can avoid losing muscle, but most people on Ozempic aren't doing either of those things.


Somebody who's eating 800 calories a day because of Ozempic and isn't that overweight is ABSOLUTELY losing significant muscle.

 

[NobodyReally]

EXACTLY.


Over xmas one of my uncles was like “you look amazing (I felt bad cuz we were with some of my bigger relatives). Keep it up. If you stay in the gym you don’t need to be like these ppl running to get a shot to lose weight”.


I was like “ Unc not at Xmas” but he felt like he had to get that off his chest lmao

That shyt is for ppl with diabetes.



The average person needs to just focus on eating right and exercising. Strength training will literally change your life.

Thats some cold shyt right there lol but I think that’s a frequent thing when you lose weight. People don’t realize how they sound. It is annoying though when they say they can tell you’ve been hitting the gym. I had a coworker tell me he can tell I’ve been working out and I had to bite my tongue because I’ve always worked out. The only thing that changed was the *type* of workout I do [god bless weight training and walking] and my daily caloric intake. It just highlights how much people associate obesity with laziness and thinness with hard work.

 

[Wildin]

Nothing I said was false. You just offered up examples of scenarios where proper diet was learned in addition to drug therapy. Some, not all, will absolutely gain that weight back if they don’t change their lifestyle off of Ozempic

Edit: ehh I see how what I said led to your response

More and more companies are offering these shots and rather than just handing them out like candy they are actually offering therapy and educating on lifestyle changes.

It won't be long before you can get a dose at planet fitness and shyt.

I said from the beginning it'll be a fad and flop if they didn't. Too many people especially this time a year buy a gym membership, with no trainer. Or buy exercise equipment but no real fitness plans or regimen.

Hell plenty of people spend a check and buy healthy foods and not junk but don't have any real recipes or meal plans.

Anyone can find something to do once, twice, three times. Even to the point of seeing results. Even saving money. But once you start getting the results the maintenance, and the next steps of the plan are where people that make it that far struggle or fail and either tread water or go back to square one.

People were and still are pissed at WW and noom for offering the jab.

 

[Wildin]

Nah, you lose fat and muscle, how much of each depends on the person. Someone that's only mildly overweight to start with (or isn't overweight) is definitely going to lose a significant amount of muscle if they stay on it long-term. It doesn't happen in a day or a month but we'll see how people on Ozempic are looking in a decade.

You can't really gain muscle on a caloric deficit, that goes against basic physiology. If you eat enough protein and stay active you can avoid losing muscle, but most people on Ozempic aren't doing either of those things.


Somebody who's eating 800 calories a day because of Ozempic and isn't that overweight is ABSOLUTELY losing significant muscle.

Studies have already been done. It's something like 13%< muscle loss and that's on the extreme end.

There's people that are 5'8 175lbs that took 2.5mg (minimum dose) for 3 months and ended up about 130-135. Body % fat 12%.

When you mention frail people, frailty comes from muscle atrophy.

These jabs don't cause muscle atrophy. Just like getting lap band surgery or gastric bypass doesn't cause muscle atrophy.

 

[KillerPups]

You definitely lose muscle if you don't work out on glp1. I would even say the muscle goes first.

I have first hand experience.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

As a type 2, I dread taking the shyt on God.

If I had a choice between a slim fast drink and peppermint diet with a sugar pill vs them shots...I would take them jawns to the face

It's not even worth the skinny fat head, flat Hank Hill ass, and saggy skin brehs.

Hell, I'm about to be on some plug shyt with my prescription.

 

[Tribal Outkast]

I’d be scared af to do that. You’re getting shots in the stomach to maid you lose weight.. that’s crazy I knew a chick who was doing it and it was only temporary because she still ate like shyt. She lost weight and gained it back in the same year

 

[karim]

I don't think Ozempic treats heart disease?

Sure if you're obese maybe the weight loss will help prevent it but if you already have heart disease it's not going to unclog your arteries. Especially if you're skinny/average weight with heart problems.

Losing weight reduces stress on your heart though.

 

[tay1]

If I was fat, I’d take it until I got to my desired weight, then try my best to maintain it without the shot.

I have a strange disdain for fat people, and I feel slightly bad for it. But I don’t understand how people can be content being fat, or watch the weight creep up, and continue to get big. Fat people take up more space in public.

Fat people don't know how to maintain weight.