Why was Kareem never the goat having made only 1 three pointer but 180O more buckets than Bron?

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I just saw a Bron hater pop up in a IG Manny Pacquiao thread.

No one brings up LeBron for no reason more than his haters, and they do it way too often, but pretend Bron supporters are the ones who are overdoing it.

shyt is wild
 

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This is such a dumb ass take. Every NBA championship team had a “stacked deck” except for the 04 Pistons, 11 Mavs & 19 Raptors.

Look at the 07 Cavs finals team..the fact they made it that far is wild. He waited for years for the Cavs to improve the roster but they never did & took his career in his own hands.

And let’s not act like LeBron is the first/only player to do this.

MJ had Chicago bring the best defensive player in the league on the Bulls

Kobe had the Lakers bring in Nash & Howard in an attempt to win more rings

Wade had Shaq in 06

KD & the Warriors

Kareem to the Lakers

The failed “stacked deck” of Malone and GP to the 04 Lakers..

Just because you bring in other good players to a team doesn’t guarantee you’ll win a title.
Rodman was on his way out the league they got that man for Will Perdue stop it.

Everything else you said was on point and those teams you mentioned were way more stacked than the 03 Spurs that's the only true team to win with one Superstar only.
 

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Cats still play dumb with that shyt.


In 2023

Rodman was on his way out the league they got that man for Will Perdue stop it.

Everything else you said was on point and those teams you mentioned were way more stacked than the 03 Spurs that's the only true team to win with one Superstar only.


07 Cavs>>>>03 Spurs and they came out the West.
 

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07 Cavs>>>>03 Spurs and they came out the West.
You say this to avoid the actual match up of the 07 Cavs vs the 07 Spurs?

Did you pick the cavs to win that series and Bron let them down?

:dahell:

Give me an absurd yes.

What is there to harp on about the “failures” of the mutha fukkin 07 Cavs? :mjlol:
 

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You say this to avoid the actual match up of the 07 Cavs vs the 07 Spurs?

Did you pick the cavs to win that series and Bron let them down?

:dahell:

Give me an absurd yes.

What is there to harp on about the “failures” of the mutha fukkin 07 Cavs? :mjlol:
I was actually responding to @staticshock about the only teams to win a chip without a Stacked deck squad because he being a Sexual.

I might've quoted you by accident..so in that case

Duncan>>>Bron. Nets had 2 all stars to the Spurs one and had to dominate on levels we have never seen because
 

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I was actually responding to @staticshock about the only teams to win a chip without a Stacked deck squad because he being a Sexual.

I might've quoted you by accident..so in that case

Duncan>>>Bron. Nets had 2 all stars to the Spurs one and had to dominate on levels we have never seen because
Im lost here. You came away with that rather than the Pop coached Spurs >>> the rag tag Cavs?

Did you feel that way about Kobe when the Spurs bounced them that year?

No consistency
 

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you forgot about Oscar Robinson being there with Cap for his first ring. lol
I did not, that was a misinterpretation.

But we both having a good laugh, Lakers at 13th, and the Celtics are in 1st so keep the laughs coming
 

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My answer doesn't change, we not making a case over here based in who I think looks better 🤣...

No one has an "airtight" case over anyone when you're comparing players across eras. Russell didn't win those 11 rings in anyone's era but his own. Wilt didn't own the record books over anyone's era but his own. Mike didn't win 6 rings in anyone's era but his own. There is no such thing as an "airtight" case when we're crossing generations...

Russell doesnt have a losing record in the finals and has the most rings..important social activism and was a trailblazer in many regards

Jordan is undefeated in the finals and has more rings than lebron amongst other accolades, greater world wide renown, did more to build the league, arguably more signature moments

Kareem doesnt have a losing record in the finals and has more accolades, had rules changed against his favor, a signature and borderline unstoppable shot and greater off the court social influence with civil rights involvement

Wilt was decidedly more dominant than lebron within his era physically and statistically but like lebron has a losing record in the finals

Kobe was arguably more skilled/technically sound, had a winning record in the finals, has comparable popularity and renown as well as off the court impact

Magic has rings, took the league to new heights with bird, has signature moments in the finals (playing the 5 for cap with a clutch shot) etc

That's not to say bron is behind all of them because he probably isnt. But to insinuate hes the goat in the face of the resumes of the aforementioned is not accurate to me. He also has the worst finals loss of all them with his vs the Mavericks and out of the above, only wilt and magic can compete with him with signature losing moments in the finals yet magic overcame the tragic magic label and won multiple rings. Not to mention Ray Allen and Kyrie hit the biggest shots of two of his championships. He had his chase down block but Kyrie had the shot. Ray got his feet behind the line against the spurs, otherwise bron would have 3 losses to Duncan in the finals.
 

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I was actually responding to @staticshock about the only teams to win a chip without a Stacked deck squad because he being a Sexual.

I might've quoted you by accident..so in that case

Duncan>>>Bron. Nets had 2 all stars to the Spurs one and had to dominate on levels we have never seen because
The Nets had 2 all-stars?:patrice:
 

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I've seen him as Goat in older documentaries, but post MJ it's only MJ.

The Goat game would be fun without MJ, just like it in hockey probably would be fun without Gretzky.
 
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Im lost here. You came away with that rather than the Pop coached Spurs >>> the rag tag Cavs?

Did you feel that way about Kobe when the Spurs bounced them that year?

No consistency
Who was Pop before he got Tim Duncan who has Pop been literally after Tim Duncan retired kill that Pop mess. Why would I say anything about Kobe?
The Nets had 2 all-stars?:patrice:
Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin
 

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Who was Pop before he got Tim Duncan who has Pop been literally after Tim Duncan retired kill that Pop mess. Why would I say anything about Kobe?

Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin
He was a coach that was skilled and needed great players to bring out his greatness. Its that simple.

I’m under the impression that you use that 2007 series to say Duncan > Bron
 
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