"Why women don't want to cook or clean for men anymore?"

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Men can do the same chores as what women do now, and be cool about it, but can women get out there and cut grass and edge their yards? Better yet do you see any of the women doing that so call "man chore"

The last statement is all your opinion, I don't even know how you came to conclusion with that notion.


LMAO at you really believing cutting grass and edging yards is some highly involved skill :laff:
 

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No that's actually not what I meant but since you brought it up, paying someone to cut your lawn few times a month costs far less than a housekeeper/maid and especially a personal chef/meal planner so the two don't even compare. If your grass goes unmowed for a couple of weeks then the worst outcome is your yard looks a little unkempt. Try not tending to your children for a few days hours and see what happens...


My nikka there's not one corner of this world, let alone this COUNTRY where people have lawns so vast that it takes them DAYS to maintain them on a weekly basis. I'm almost getting secondhand embarrassment from the fact that you really tried to play the "well maybe I'm just a well traveled, globetrotting negro, unlike yourself" card in order to defend lazy af and uninvolved fathers.


You must not travel nor ride around areas where yards are present, grass in the summertime, end of the spring season grows faster than it does in the winter, 2 weeks? many people get their lawns cut every week. I see you're drifting away from what you've said about personal choice, now you're talking about $$$, when the target point was "personal choice" One aspect will cost more than another, we are talking about personal choice in doing task and chores, something you brought up to fit your narrative and go against mines.

I stated that if we are sharing chores, then add 'all' of the chores into the pot to be shared, (don't cut out the ones that you deem as a "personal choice) you stated that cutting the lawn was a 'personal choice' and I said the household chores were also a personal choice, but now it's another element you added which is $$$, regardless, everything is a personal choice.

My nikka there's not that much cleaning up to do in a day (unless you're dealing with a messy ass woman or man), as you're trying to make it out to be and that's include having kids or not. (most parents train their children to pick up after themselves) Most families when growing up in the 80s and 90s, 2000s cleaned up on a certain day. (Saturdays was clean up, laundry etc day), it wasn't an everyday 2-3 hour process like you're trying to make it out to be.

Women work and Men work more nowadays and neither are coming home everyday to clean up 2-3 hours like you're trying to make it out to be, again, a day, maybe 2 are picked to be marked as 'clean up day'

You speak like every family has 3-4 kids and men and women are walking into a pig's pen when they hit the front door, when that's not even the case.

My nikka, cooking meals took about 1-3 hours and cooking was not done every day back in the 80s, 90s, 2000s, leftovers were had. You act like women are cooking big ass meals like how the women of yesterday were cooking, most women cook salmon and asparagus, pasta, shyt that takes 1 hour and some change to make, or they simply order food.

Stop showing your colors buddy
 

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Could Burkina Faso's Husband Schools Be Key to Successful Marriages?​

January 11, 2022 2:46 AM
Could Burkina Faso's Husband Schools Be Key to Successful Marriages?
In male-dominated societies like Burkina Faso, wives are most often blamed when marriages run into trouble. But a project funded by the World Bank is testing the concept of teaching men how to be better husbands by taking them to school.:ehh:
Yeli Ouigo, who is married to Kwama Zoupoka, attended so-called "husband schools" to help him become a better spouse. The program was organized by the Sahel Women's Empowerment and Demographic Dividend (SWEDD).
"Before taking part in the classes, life as a couple wasn't easy," Ouigo said.
He said that there was a time when he didn't think that women and men had much in common when it came to problems with family life. But, after the classes, he understood they can complement and help each other.
Burkina Faso is a male-dominated society, but the schools use a variety of teaching techniques, including role plays, to help the men understand the needs of their wives and how to meet them — for example, helping with housework.
They also teach the men about women's rights, family planning, health and hygiene. In addition, men are encouraged to include women in making family decisions.

The coordinator of the project, Nabalou Bibata of the Association for the Promotion of Women and Children, said the classes have made a big difference to women in the community. Some men have even attended the childbirth of their wives, she added, which is part of assuming responsibility for the care of the children by the fathers.
And for the men of the village who weren't able to participate in the husband schools, Bibata said, the men who did attend have become role models.
Although these are the first schools of their kind in Burkina Faso, similar projects have been implemented in countries like South Africa and Niger.
Edward Wageni, global head for the U.N. Women HeForShe Initiative, said the husband schools can help reduce incidents of domestic violence.
"The acknowledgement that gender equality is not just about women and girls, gender equality is about everybody," he said.
Wageni said the husband schools also could be beneficial in countries outside Africa, where statistically gender equality is better than Burkina Faso.
"So, this is a good idea that can be replicated and even scaled up in other parts of the world, including those countries that feel they have made a lot of gains," he said.
Zoupoka, meanwhile, said the classes have made her husband much more helpful and considerate.
And the love between her and her husband is growing, she said, adding that her husband now even brings her little gifts from the market.
The national coordinator of the husband schools called the project a resounding success, and said it will be expanded to other parts of the country. The second phase of the project is due to start later this year.

There’s hope for humanity.:ohlawd: Each one teach one. No more cave man mentality. We in this together!
 

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They started this a couple of years ago in Japan too.

Japan's Husbands Learn to Be Loving​

October 31, 2009 1:01 PM
The National Chauvinistic Husband's Association is trying to change the way Japanese men treat their wives, showing them how to put quality into their marriages before it is too late. The issue is important in a country where many women are reluctant to marry and more are eager to divorce.
A group of Japanese men claim they have the key to better marriages.
Recently, they gathered in suits and ties outside a busy train station in Tokyo and chanted their "Three Principles of Love:" saying "sorry" without fear; saying "thank you" without hesitation; and saying "I love you" without shame. Calling themselves the National Chauvinistic Husband's Association, they say these declarations are what women want to hear.
The association's members believe that if men can say these words without hesitation, they will have better relationships with their wives. These husbands have good reason to be serious about their goal of teaching men to communicate better with their families. Japan's divorce rate has been soaring in recent years, with 70 percent of the splits initiated by unhappy wives.
The association's 54-year-old chairman, Shuichi Amano, founded it in 1999 after years of trouble in his own marriage. One evening he came home from work, at his usual late hour, and he asked his wife whether she thought it was odd that all the middle-aged men around him suddenly were getting divorced.
"It happened several years ago, when several of my friend's wives were divorcing them," said Amano. "And when I mentioned it, my wife sharply came back with: 'Well, I think you will be next.'"
Amano says her answer all but stopped his heart, then he broke out in a cold sweat. Her sharp tone told him his wife was serious.
After that initial shock, Amano reflected on his relationship with his wife and daughters.
At first, he rationalized that his job as a writer and editor for a publishing company kept him too busy. Eventually, Amano began to admit to himself that he was a typical chauvinist and did not communicate with his family.
His next, and hardest, step toward self-awareness came after many discussions with a few male friends, some already ex-husbands. It sank in that his behavior had been typical of Japan's "strong" husbands, those who communicate only three things to their wives - furo, meshi, neru - meaning bath, dinner and sleep.
His reflections led Amano to think about starting a program of self-improvement for other men in danger of becoming ex-husbands. He first put his energy into saving his own marriage.
"I changed my attitude and decided to communicate with my wife and three daughters," he said. "Instead of only saying food, bath, and sleep, I washed dishes and did such things as take the trash out. My wife says I've changed, and I am more sensitive. Furthermore, she smiles at me, which she never did before." :ohlawd:
Amano was soon passing on what he learned to other men through the National Chauvinistic Husband's Association. The group's name shows that its members have been chauvinists - men who consider themselves superior to their wives - but are working together to reform.
The group developed 10 levels to grade members' relations with their wives. The first level asks is he still in love with his wife after three years of marriage? The second asks does he do a good job helping with housework? Number three is has he ever cheated on his wife, or has his wife ever caught him cheating?
As the ranks get higher, it gets tougher for these men, who have been brought up in Japan's male-dominated society. There is only one member who has attained level 10, the highest. He can tell his wife he loves her without embarrassment.
Amano has made it to level five, and can walk hand-in-hand with his wife.
Yoko Itamoto, a Tokyo marriage counselor, thinks Japanese men need to change their ways, because, she says, the biggest challenge facing the country is marriage.
 

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Except the bolded isn't bullshyt because it doesn't take an entire day or WEEKEND to complete those tasks.

Can you even imagine a world where women neglected their normal responsibilities in order to take a full 48
hours to make their kids and homes look "presentable" each week!?

Anyway like I was saying, a lot of you nikkas are naive and refuse to accept the fact that yes a lot of y'all Papa's and daddies did a lot of bullshyt "yard work" 😒 around the house and took their sweet time doing so in order to avoid any responsibilities as far as actually maintaining the household.


What in the fukk are you even talking about!? Who the fukk said anything about poor fathering or anything like that?? Get the fukk on with your whiny protections breh.
Nobody said anything about it taking a whole day or weekend except you. Regardless, that shyt takes time and is very tiring. It takes me 2-3 hours to do my whole yard, depending on how in depth I go that day. And when I’m done I’m sweaty, dirty and tired as hell. Some people, who are more meticulous with their yards take even longer. Not to mention, back then they were doing a bunch of stuff then men don’t do today, like fixing their own cars, building stuff and making household repairs.

YOU said they did it to avoid their fatherly duties on their days off. That’s poor fathering. Do you even remember what you wrote?
 

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Did your mother work full-time?
My pops made my mom quit her job and drop out of college when my oldest brother was born. After I was old enough (in my teens) she went back to work and she had a full time job and my dad still never washed a dish, made dinner, or did laundry.

My mother absolutely DESPISES modern women. She was with one man her entire life and looks at all these women as lazy, selfish whores who don't know how to take care of a man.

And my grandma is just as bad. If you're a woman that wears pants, then you're nothing more than a hussy :picard:
 

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Why do our community act like cooking is some herculean act, or beneath women. I cook regularly, and am a better cook than any woman I've been with it. If your ass can't cook I'd rather you not pollute my tongue considering I can do it myself.

on the flipside if you really really think its that much work just get a fukking air fryer. takes an idiot to fukk up meals with that.
Breh, some cooking is literally filling water to a line, grabbing some seasoning and letting the appliance do it's thing.

Some folks out there acting like that's too much information for them to learn although that meal would last them multiple days and took all but a few minutes :mjlol:
 
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My pops made my mom quit her job and drop out of college when my oldest brother was born. After I was old enough (in my teens) she went back to work and she had a full time job and my dad still never washed a dish, made dinner, or did laundry.

My mother absolutely DESPISES modern women. She was with one man her entire life and looks at all these women as lazy, selfish whores who don't know how to take care of a man.

And my grandma is just as bad. If you're a woman that wears pants, then you're nothing more than a hussy :picard:
The fact that dad made your mom quit her job to do these things and your mom didn’t go back to work until you were a teenager says a lot. I’m sure your dad was the primary provider even when your mom went back to work.

Your (and the other dude’s) mom is no different than the Steve Harvey’s of the world that say a man should pay for everything (All the bills, groceries, hair, nails, going out, etc.) because “that’s what men do.”

I don’t mind women wanting to share some responsibilities if she’s working full-time and y’all raising a family together and sharing bills. But, if the husband is providing damn near everything to the point where she doesn’t have to work or she gets to spend her money on whatever she wants, then she should be doing whatever the husband asks for around the house.
 

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This is pretty much it. A lot of people want it both ways. If you're both working you're both supposed to clean up after yourselves and cook for the house. It's a space you both share so you're both responsible for the labor in the space. Only a truly selfish piece of shyt would expect his wife to work for 8 hours, come home before him some how and have the place cleaned up and a meal ready.

If she's agreed to stay at home, then she needs to be absolutely clear about what she is going to do to maintain the household because it's unrealistic for her to expect you to go out and work, then come home and clean up after her and arrange for a meal. Sadly some women are on that wave and I avoid them as quickly as possible. I'm not finna work to make money you'll eat off and you're not even going to contribute. FOH
Man staying 10 steps behind these chicks that believe in raising kids on Olive Garden breadsticks.
Alternate days. I just don't understand why cooking takes THAT long. What are folks cooking? Some damn salsbury steak don't take no hour.
 

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And what if someone manages to break in? Who goes after him? :jbhmm:
Call the police? Why are you chasing after criminals when you shell out thousands a year in insurance and home security system payments. On the commercials when someone breaks in, the alarms sounds and they run off. :manny:


I’ve NEVER (knock on wood) experienced a home invasion, so I’m not exactly sure.
 
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