"Why women don't want to cook or clean for men anymore?"

[Scustin Bieburr]

If both husbands and wives work full time, then y’all better meal prep, cook something in bulk that y’all don’t mind eating for the next few days and take turns coppin take out on the way home.

This is pretty much it. A lot of people want it both ways. If you're both working you're both supposed to clean up after yourselves and cook for the house. It's a space you both share so you're both responsible for the labor in the space. Only a truly selfish piece of shyt would expect his wife to work for 8 hours, come home before him some how and have the place cleaned up and a meal ready.

If she's agreed to stay at home, then she needs to be absolutely clear about what she is going to do to maintain the household because it's unrealistic for her to expect you to go out and work, then come home and clean up after her and arrange for a meal. Sadly some women are on that wave and I avoid them as quickly as possible. I'm not finna work to make money you'll eat off and you're not even going to contribute. FOH

 

[Booker Carver]

Go to your community college . They normally have non credited classes.

Go take a knife skills basics class and practice. Hell they even have couples date night classes. Where you can learn a basic Paella dish it's a traditional Spanish dish of rice chicken, seafood and sausage.

Have fun with it. If you want take a safe serv class it will teach you the do' and donts in the kitchen how to not cross contaminate.

That safe serve is worth the couple Franklins. After I took it I looked at the kitchen in a new way pre culinary school.

Wifey came home tired. Went ahead and cooked tonight. Wifey in the kitchen telling me how to make her spaghetti. Kids approved. Got a long way to go, but hey, she appreciated it.

 

[Rell84shots]

Imagine wifing up a woman that can't/refuses to do basic adult stuff. Cooking and cleaning aren't gender specific, but why would any man want to be with a woman that won't do either? Those aren't the women you want to have kids with.

 

[Shadow King]

All of y'all talking about men "should know how" are missing the point, likely purposely.

 

[Rell84shots]

All of y'all talking about men "should know how" are missing the point, likely purposely.

That's the gaslighting trick they learned from their most likely single mom.

 

[3rdWorld]

Imagine wifing up a woman that can't/refuses to do basic adult stuff. Cooking and cleaning are gender specific, but why would any man want to be with a woman that won't do either? Those aren't the women you want to have kids with.

Her domestic duties and responsibilities need to be established long before you move in together, let alone a marriage..going into a marriage blind is not the way brehs.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

If she’s working y’all gotta share them chores. Brehs be wanting provider/leadership perks without providing/leading

This.

 

[Contrefaire]

That's fair, so that means women should at times cut grass, edge and wash cars? Do the grunt of the house work as well if we are sharing chores.

Folks only wanna focus on the 'inside' chores. Let's include all the chores.
She wake her ass up Saturday morning and get out there and tackle that big ass yard front and back, edge and trim any bushes.

Let's not limit the chores to cooking and laundry, I don't see a whole lot of women out in the yard cutting grass and doing other grunt work

Idk how to tell you this but waking up early every Saturday morning to meticulously mow your lawn, trim your hedges and do some weed whacking is a personal choice and not at all a necessity, nor is it key to your family's survival.

Matter of fact most of you nikkas don't own acreage like that so why TF would you even need to dedicate a whole day EVERY WEEK to basic upkeep? And then you mentioned washing cars!? You can't be serious.

I'm assuming a lot of y'all believe "man chores" are just as difficult and time consuming as running an entire household day in and day out because you watched your fathers and grandfathers spend hours washing and putting gas in cars or mowing lawns, not understanding that they took their sweet fukking time doing so because it was their way of escaping their fatherly duties on their days off.

 

[Prodyson]

Threads like this make me glad I was raised how I was raised. This is why my mother told me to never marry an American women because they're lazy, selfish, and entitled. Growing up I never saw my dad cook, wash a dish, pick up a plate, do the laundry, or mend a hole in his own socks. My mother did 100% of the domestic work and I never heard her complain about it.

Last year my mother had to remind me of how she raised me. She said unless a woman is cooking, cleaning, washing my draws, and keeping my house spotless from day one, don't marry her. She told me that's what she was doing from my dad on day one.

And what's sad is your grandfathers, and great grandfathers were probably barely literate and lived below the poverty line and they still had wives that cooked, cleaned, and did their duty.

Did your mother work full-time?

 

[Prodyson]

Idk how to tell you this but waking up early every Saturday morning to meticulously mow your lawn, trim your hedges and do some weed whacking is a personal choice and not at all a necessity, nor is it key to your family's survival.

Matter of fact most of you nikkas don't own acreage like that so why TF would you even need to dedicate a whole day EVERY WEEK to basic upkeep? And then you mentioned washing cars!? You can't be serious.

I'm assuming a lot of y'all believe "man chores" are just as difficult and time consuming as running an entire household day in and day out because you watched your fathers and grandfathers spend hours washing and putting gas in cars or mowing lawns, not understanding that they took their sweet fukking time doing so because it was their way of escaping their fatherly duties on their days off.

I agree that managing the household is more important than things like mowing the lawn, trimming hedges, washing the car, etc… but the bolded is bullshyt. It was done because it was expected to be done for the household. The same way women normally want their houses to be tidy and their children to be well kept, they want their yards to be manicured and their cars to be clean and shiny. Don’t try to relegate “manly” responsibilities to poor fathering. That’s disingenuous as hell.

 

[SleezyBigSlim]

My wife cooks two or three times or a week on average. Our nanny picks the kids up and has a full meal prepared by 4:30 for us & the kids three days a week. I'll cook on a whim here and there if I'm off, someone is under the weather or when we're grilling. Sometimes I'll head to the kitchen and throw on something just because or if my girls ask for something they prefer me to make. I honestly haven't touched a pot in over a month. You have to do what works for you though.

Yall have a nanny and your wife still cooks 3 times a week?

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Idk how to tell you this but waking up early every Saturday morning to meticulously mow your lawn, trim your hedges and do some weed whacking is a personal choice and not at all a necessity, nor is it key to your family's survival.

Matter of fact most of you nikkas don't own acreage like that so why TF would you even need to dedicate a whole day EVERY WEEK to basic upkeep? And then you mentioned washing cars!? You can't be serious.

I'm assuming a lot of y'all believe "man chores" are just as difficult and time consuming as running an entire household day in and day out because you watched your fathers and grandfathers spend hours washing and putting gas in cars or mowing lawns, not understanding that they took their sweet fukking time doing so because it was their way of escaping their fatherly duties on their days off.

If we are going by what you said, everything is a personal choice, just like the household things are a personal choice, I assume you are saying that it's a personal choice to mow the lawn because you can pay someone to cut the grass, yes you can, but I will also add to that you can use those same dollars of yours and pay someone to manage your house chores such as maids, house cleaners. or you can use those same dollars to get meals prepared for your home. As I stated, everything can be considered a personal choice.

I think you need to do some more traveling breh, not sure if you travel or not, but homes in the south come with back yards and front yards, sides, Houston, Dallas, and other places in the south and I'm sure in other areas have yards that come with houses. I spoke on the washing car aspect in a follow up post, I stated that nowadays, women and men take their cars/trucks to get service and washed etc, vs back in the day, where's a man washed both cars, his truck and his wife's car in their driveway.

As far as this man vs women chores statement you are trying to present, I'd challenge your point on that, and ask you, put a woman in one house with a front and back yard and a man in another house with a front and back yard, how often would you see that woman cutting grass and doing yard work vs seeing that man cutting his grass? If the so call man chore wasn't so difficult as you are presenting it, we would see more women, cutting grass and edging their lawns, we would have seen this growing up in the 80s, and 90s, when paying someone to cut your lawn was as popular.

Men can do the same chores as what women do now, and be cool about it, but can women get out there and cut grass and edge their yards? Better yet do you see any of the women doing that so call "man chore"

The last statement is all your opinion, I don't even know how you came to conclusion with that notion.

 

[feelosofer]

I never needed my wife to cook like that. I like cooking and I'm the much better chef. But she does take on more of the cleaning though now I've started to hire someone for the heavy stuff.

But I said before a lot you dudes asking for a traditional wife can't afford it and its not a diss 90% of American don't make enough to support a wife and children on one income.

 

[Contrefaire]

I agree that managing the household is more important than things like mowing the lawn, trimming hedges, washing the car, etc… but the bolded is bullshyt. It was done because it was expected to be done for the household. The same way women normally want their houses to be tidy and their children to be well kept, they want their yards to be manicured and their cars to be clean and shiny. Don’t try to relegate “manly” responsibilities to poor fathering. That’s disingenuous as hell.

Except the bolded isn't bullshyt because it doesn't take an entire day or WEEKEND to complete those tasks.

Can you even imagine a world where women neglected their normal responsibilities in order to take a full 48
hours to make their kids and homes look "presentable" each week!?

Anyway like I was saying, a lot of you nikkas are naive and refuse to accept the fact that yes a lot of y'all Papa's and daddies did a lot of bullshyt "yard work" around the house and took their sweet time doing so in order to avoid any responsibilities as far as actually maintaining the household.

Don’t try to relegate “manly” responsibilities to poor fathering. That’s disingenuous as hell.

What in the fukk are you even talking about!? Who the fukk said anything about poor fathering or anything like that?? Get the fukk on with your whiny protections breh.

 

[Contrefaire]

If we are going by what you said, everything is a personal choice, just like the household things are a personal choice, I assume you are saying that it's a personal choice to mow the lawn because you can pay someone to cut the grass, yes you can, but I will also add to that you can use those same dollars of yours and pay someone to manage your house chores such as maids, house cleaners. or you can use those same dollars to get meals prepared for your home. As I stated, everything can be considered a personal choice

No that's actually not what I meant but since you brought it up, paying someone to cut your lawn few times a month costs far less than a housekeeper/maid and especially a personal chef/meal planner so the two don't even compare. If your grass goes unmowed for a couple of weeks then the worst outcome is your yard looks a little unkempt. Try not tending to your children for a few days hours and see what happens...

I think you need to do some more traveling breh, not sure if you travel or not, but homes in the south come with back yards and front yards, sides, Houston, Dallas, and other places in the south and I'm sure in other areas have yards that come with houses. I spoke on the washing car aspect in a follow up post, I stated that nowadays, women and men take their cars/trucks to get service and washed etc, vs back in the day, where's a man washed both cars, his truck and his wife's car in their driveway.

My nikka there's not one corner of this world, let alone this COUNTRY where people have lawns so vast that it takes them DAYS to maintain them on a weekly basis. I'm almost getting secondhand embarrassment from the fact that you really tried to play the "well maybe I'm just a well traveled, globetrotting negro, unlike yourself" card in order to defend lazy af and uninvolved fathers.