Wikileaks Vault 7 release

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I agree and like I said, if it came out later this was used indiscriminately on US citizens, I'm not naive enough to be surprised. We already know the NSA was indiscriminately spying on US citizens.

However, I think its reasonable to also be skeptical of the source here and the intentions. I have no love for the CIA and hell...I would say for the USA in general. But at the same time, I'd love for ALL the dirt on everyone to be out there. Otherwise, this just becomes another form of propaganda for one side over another in my mind.

Once again, why did the Panama papers hit such a sore point for Wikileaks?

Here's my thing. Even if you assume Putin is personally directing all of these leaks, it doesn't change the information in the leaks. The info is either verifiable or its not. If its verifiable, I don't give af who released it or their politics for doing so. It doesn't change the information. People dismissed Snowden's NSA leaks and deflected like crazy. Same thing is happening here.
 

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It's absolutely fair to compare the repressive US to authoritarian Russia and China. It should happen more often.

And yet you seem ok with America following in the footsteps of those same authoritarian nations :leostare:

You know who else liked to spy on all his citizens out of irrational paranoia? Every Russian dictator.
 

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Here's my thing. Even if you assume Putin is personally directing all of these leaks, it doesn't change the information in the leaks. The info is either verifiable or its not. If its verifiable, I don't give af who released it or their politics for doing so. It doesn't change the information. People dismissed Snowden's NSA leaks and deflected like crazy. Same thing is happening here.
never debated the content. I'm debating the purpose and I have some reluctance in exchanging one country's propaganda for another.

I have double amount of reluctance and skepticism when that is combined with information to legitimize one side in the process. The biases of some posters here is obvious for one side or another. There are a few people here who I believe or legit for all information to be publicly available and providing critique of american institutions and are intellectually honest in their belief.

There is another segment of posters who only seem to be for this information when one side benefits.

I'm liberal and voted democrat in the past, but at the sametime, when snowden dropped information implicating the Obama administration and NSA under Obama indiscriminately spying on its citizens, I personally thought it was a good thing.
 

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so to you unless wikileaks divides their leaks equally between dem and repubs then the info isn't legit? is less significant? the fukk is this crossfire?

dems been in office last 8 years so the leaks is about dems:yeshrug:

when bush was in office leaks was about cons:yeshrug:

but anyway this is about the CIA so why are you making this a partisan issue?

because they are braindead drones who should just commit suicide

you retarded fukks itt are a disgrace to humanity
 

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:yeshrug: Privacy been compromised. The interesting thing to me is the controlling of a modern car. Michael Hastings death looking funny in the light.

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@Behelit Check out Michael Hastings. Its still a conspiracy theory at this point and Hastings died in 2013 but there may be more to the story than meets the eye. He died after posting this article: https://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/why-democrats-love-to-spy-on-americans . Not going to claim this as truth but theres more smoke to this story than usual, especially given the current leaks. His wiki makes him sound like a perfect candidate to get CIA'd. Michael Hastings (journalist) - Wikipedia

He believed he was being spied on and his car was being tampered with. Hastings thought his car was being tampered with
 
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