Wikileaks Vault 7 release

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[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Please don't be naive. On one hand you think the CIA having all these powerful tools is the best thing ever...On the other hand you don't think they deploy these tools. Cmon now.



Wanna discuss how these "awesome capabilities" are in the hands of completely incompetent authorities?

so answer the question. Where were these capabilities deployed?

 

[ill]

I'm not naive to think that there is no possibility that CIA is spying on USA citizens, but from all the information I've seen so far, this is targetting foreign individuals, is it not?

They are exposing the source codes of how these hacking programs bypassed natural security measures in place of several devices in order to spy on foreign people. I was under no delusion this did not take place. Once you show that american citizens who are not part of a foreign spy operation are the target then my alarm bells will go off. Otherwise this seems like a data dump for information sake. Not caping, but again, I don't think anyone thought that the CIA wasn't using every means possible to hack people and engage in cyber warfare.

The most concerning thing I've seen so far is that they "lost control" of their malware. Reminds me of the Stuxnet worm that was released a while back.

I generally agree with your assessment but I don't have as much faith in the goodwill of the CIA as you do. They've been exposed for spying on Americans in the past. In recent years the laws on information sharing have been lessened so they have been working more closely with the FBI and NSA and even operating on domestic soil through joint task forces with those agencies. The CIA has always pushed the boundaries so if they have the capability (which these leaks prove they do) then why wouldn't they do massive surveillance on domestic soil as they do on foreign soil? The malware infections that are mentioned in these leaks are fairly indiscriminate about who they're targeting so theres a very likely chance that CIA malware is on tons of American iPhones and Android devices.

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[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm divided...while I think having access is necessary in certain situations. I don't want them misusing it on your avg every day American for other purposes

Well Russia has them now...and they only leaked the stuff they didn't care about.

Remember that when it comes to Wikileaks.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

so to you unless wikileaks divides their leaks equally between dem and repubs then the info isn't legit? is less significant? the fukk is this crossfire?

dems been in office last 8 years so the leaks is about dems

when bush was in office leaks was about cons

but anyway this is about the CIA so why are you making this a partisan issue?

You mean like this?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I generally agree with your assessment but I don't have as much faith in the goodwill of the CIA as you do. They've been exposed for spying on Americans in the past. In recent years the laws on information sharing have been lessened so they have been working more closely with the FBI and NSA and even operating on domestic soil through joint task forces with those agencies. The CIA has always pushed the boundaries so if they have the capability (which these leaks prove they do) then why wouldn't they do massive surveillance on domestic soil as they do on foreign soil? The malware infections that are mentioned in these leaks are fairly indiscriminate about who they're targeting so theres a very likely chance that CIA malware is on tons of American iPhones and Android devices.

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Worry about your own:

 

[Dr. Acula]

I generally agree with your assessment but I don't have as much faith in the goodwill of the CIA as you do. They've been exposed for spying on Americans in the past. In recent years the laws on information sharing have been lessened so they have been working more closely with the FBI and NSA and even operating on domestic soil through joint task forces with those agencies. The CIA has always pushed the boundaries so if they have the capability (which these leaks prove they do) then why wouldn't they do massive surveillance on domestic soil as they do on foreign soil? The malware infections that are mentioned in these leaks are fairly indiscriminate about who they're targeting so theres a very likely chance that CIA malware is on tons of American iPhones and Android devices.

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I agree and like I said, if it came out later this was used indiscriminately on US citizens, I'm not naive enough to be surprised. We already know the NSA was indiscriminately spying on US citizens.

However, I think its reasonable to also be skeptical of the source here and the intentions. I have no love for the CIA and hell...I would say for the USA in general. But at the same time, I'd love for ALL the dirt on everyone to be out there. Otherwise, this just becomes another form of propaganda for one side over another in my mind.

Once again, why did the Panama papers hit such a sore point for Wikileaks?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

@Ill this is the real story. You can thank Snowden for all of this.

 

[ill]

Worry about your own:

I think you do enough worrying for everyone on the Coli combined.

 

[Vonte3000]

Yall are crazy as hell. I don't want my shyt being monitored regardless, I have a right to my privacy and telling me I'm "Probably" not part of the populace being monitored is bullshyt, let's not forget about 10 years ago if someone made the claim we were being covertly monitored with intelligence mining that person would have been called an insane conspiracy theorist. People need to learn when you give power hungry psychos an inch they turn it into a mile.

 

[Crude Abolitionist]

people really in here for the CIA, the fukking CIA, one of the worst agencys ever in the worlds history, on a hiphop board at that























seriously tho, the CIA?

Yeah this is so fukking dumb. Look here folks...this shyt don't concern us in the least bit if you know what I mean. Keep it moving. All this Russia BS yall giving too much energy when we have so much work to do in our own community. Please stop trying to cape for government institutions that do nothing for you and never will. Thank you.

Black First.

 

[88m3]

I think you do enough worrying for everyone on the Coli combined.

It's absolutely fair to compare the repressive US to authoritarian Russia and China. It should happen more often.

 

[greenygreen]

there is no goal to be "equal". If there is more dirt on one side than the other, it is what it is. However, this is not what is happening. Like I said, and I hate I can't quote it again, but there have been several tweets made under the wikileaks account that have been partisan and defensive in regards to this administration than others. If you want to play "Assange is just an anarchist" card then you wouldn't see defensive statements for the current president in the united states. Also just because the president is a democrat doesn't mean republicans disappeared. They had congress for 6 out of 8 years during that time.

If the reports that RNC and various state republican legislatures were also hacked but there was a selective release of information in order to hurt one side over the other, then you can't claim neutrality. Period.

1.) Assange is extremely hurt by actions of the Obama administration
2.) He may not be a willing patsy, but he is getting a ton of information from a particular party in order to help spread their propaganda,
3.) Or worse, he is a knowing patsy and is acting on said party behalf under the guise of "anarchist wanting to watch the world burn...in certain circumstances"

Didnt they throw a hissy fit when the Panama papers were released despite being transparency adovcates? I find that odd.

from what i gather about Assange i dont think he cares about the red/blue politics, its seems he's more into the globalism vs nationalism war, and he's against globalist which are represented by dems and repubs.

this is why Michelle hugged up on GWB they both globalists

gotta remember Assange aint from US i doubt he views these people thru the reb/blue lens like we do

and another reason DNC got hacked is cause they took their files off the private server, so maybe repubs were smart enough not to do that

 

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[88m3]

from what i gather about Assange i dont think he cares about the red/blue politics, its seems he's more into the globalism vs nationalism war, and he's against globalist which are represented by dems and repubs.

this is why Michelle hugged up on GWB they both globalists

gotta remember Assange aint from US i doubt he views these people thru the reb/blue lens like we do

and another reason DNC got hacked is cause they took their files off the private server, so maybe repubs were smart enough not to do that

Yeah, Assange is from Austria.