Will Kevin Durant Kill the Worst Argument in Sports?

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"Many of you would have believed"-- the moment you started reaching to make a point

Obviously it woudlve have been more challenging playing against the 2nd best player in the NBA instead of with. But we know how good they are without him so please stop being ridiculous. How did they look when he got hurt?

We know they were just good enough to lose to Cleveland last year and that is all Golden State is concerned about. KD couldn't get past GS last year. That's all he was worried about.

San Antonio looked great without Leonard during the regular season. How did that work out for them come playoff time?
 

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7 years later and no one gets on Lebron for winning 2 rings with Wade and Bosh

10 years later, and no one besmirches KG, Allen, or Pierce for how they came together to win their ring.

No one will care. Its just the truth

No one had any reason to get on Bron though. He didn't sign with a 73 win team whose core already won a title without him and beat him despite a 3-1 deficit a month before.

I don't see what anything KD did has to do with LeBron other than being scared of him. :yeshrug:
 

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KD was 2 minutes from eliminating Golden State in back to back games.

And went to join a 73 win team.

You can make the comparison to Lebron all you want. But no matter how loud you scream it, Lebron joined a team significantly worse than those Golden State Warriors. It's not the same. It will never be the same.

Durant can say he doesn't care what people think or say about him, but people will never forget that move. Ever. That's gonna follow Durant for life.

It doesn't mean he's not a great player. But let's not pretend this was some sort of Karl Malone at the tail end of his career on the Lakers type shyt

I never mentioned LeBron.
 

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I don't care any more about him going to gsw and I won't care 10 years later either. If he wins, he was the best player on the team, obviously contributed significantly, and helped a team that flopped the year before finish the job.

I just want him to win at this point, and often.

":damn:It's different! Lebron made his super team the right way! :damn:"

:mjlol::mjlol:

This narrative is sooooo corny. It doesn't matter what Miami was before he got there. That was a guaranteed situation and everyone involved knew that.

Hence the "not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5..."
 
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We know they were just good enough to lose to Cleveland last year and that is all Golden State is concerned about. KD couldn't get past GS last year. That's all he was worried about.

San Antonio looked great without Leonard during the regular season. How did that work out for them come playoff time?
Great point. Sure. They needed Kevin Durant to get over the hump. You got it....
 

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Yes it will.


Y'all gotta get outta your feelings. We get it. KD disappointed America somehow by not going to Washington. KD realized it's a lot better to be called a hoe than Mr. Unreliable. He realized OKC blew the best shot they had last year though he had a major part in that (anyone who thought OKC woulda been a threat to GS this year was wishing on a star). If it wasn't KD it woulda been some other star and fans would still cry.


At the end of the day, everyone who continues to track KD's legacy will have to put NBA Champion beside his name soon whether y'all want to or not.

Why wouldn't ok if a threat to gsw this year if they were last year?
 

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Yes it will.


Y'all gotta get outta your feelings. We get it. KD disappointed America somehow by not going to Washington. KD realized it's a lot better to be called a hoe than Mr. Unreliable. He realized OKC blew the best shot they had last year though he had a major part in that (anyone who thought OKC woulda been a threat to GS this year was wishing on a star). If it wasn't KD it woulda been some other star and fans would still cry.


At the end of the day, everyone who continues to track KD's legacy will have to put NBA Champion beside his name soon whether y'all want to or not.

But that's exactly my point, if they win he will be a champion and that is important. But you're lying if you say that how he came to GS and won it won't be held against him when we discuss his career legacy

There's always some bullshyt caveat. Media and fans want the athlete to do what they want them to do and they don't get it done that way, they shyt on them. When the athlete decides to do things his way and puts himself, in what can be perceived as a better position, guess what? Fans and media still shyt on him.


Fans and media created this clusterfukk of a story and the athlete has finally said, "fukk that shyt" and is re-writing it.

This isn't the athletes' fault at all.

The athlete does bear responsibility for his performance. He deserves criticism for getting outplayed vs Bron in 2011 and for not closing GS out last yr. He will get credit for winning a title if they win one, but the story for KD of winning a title with GS is a narrative that isn't going to paint his legacy in the most flattering light. Fair or unfair that's how he'll be judged

KD was 2 minutes from eliminating Golden State in back to back games.

And went to join a 73 win team.

You can make the comparison to Lebron all you want. But no matter how loud you scream it, Lebron joined a team significantly worse than those Golden State Warriors. It's not the same. It will never be the same.

Durant can say he doesn't care what people think or say about him, but people will never forget that move. Ever. That's gonna follow Durant for life.

It doesn't mean he's not a great player. But let's not pretend this was some sort of Karl Malone at the tail end of his career on the Lakers type shyt

Great post
 

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Why wouldn't ok if a threat to gsw this year if they were last year?
Because that was the best shot they against them up 3-1. Golden State was gonna be healthier and would have added some other star while OKC was never gonna be able to keep up with them in terms of making that team good enough to beat them. If they couldn't finish the job last year they were never gonna finish the job.
 

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Championships are only understood through context. The context of how and why KD wins a title (assuming they win one) defines his legacy as much as winning one. Joining a legendary team that has already won a title isn't as meaningful as winning one as "the man" in a city like OKC

-KG & Ray got traded to BOS at the end of their primes

-Bron joined a team that didn't even make the playoffs the year before

-KD took the "if you can't beat em join em" mentality to a new level...him winning is going to count, but it's also going to be counted against him if they win it
Mia did go to the playoffs the year before
 

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I only seen two times when superstars in their prime had to split up

it was when kobe snitched shaq outta LA

and this durant westbrook thing


there is a difference between not having realistic chances to win the title and being 3-1 in the conference finals against a 73 win team

celtics and miami big three was done because their players had a supporting cast which only hakeem olajuwon could have takent to the title in the history of nba, something needed to be done.

Did LeBron bosh and wade need to take paycuts so they could play together?

2 superstars taking the max and good role players wouldn't have been good enough?
 

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No one had any reason to get on Bron though. He didn't sign with a 73 win team whose core already won a title without him and beat him despite a 3-1 deficit a month before.

I don't see what anything KD did has to do with LeBron other than being scared of him. :yeshrug:
because it comes from the same vein of jumping on a team with multiple other all stars in their prime. when lebron signed with miami, what other team had 2 multiple time all stars 28 or under let alone the 3 that miami had? similar situation when he signed with the cavs, once kevin love was on board the only team in the league with 3 all stars 30 and under. it wasnt just about contending, it was about stacking the deck and maximizing his title window. otherwise why team up with 2 all stars rather than 1.

same deal with kd, cept there wasnt a team with that kind of a title window with 3 young all stars to contend with either time lebron left in free agency. so where was kd going to go where he could follow lebron's blueprint of being on a team with more young all stars than anyone else in the league. the answer is there wasnt a place where he could make that happen other than golden state.
 

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because it comes from the same vein of jumping on a team with multiple other all stars in their prime. when lebron signed with miami, what other team had 2 multiple time all stars 28 or under let alone the 3 that miami had? similar situation when he signed with the cavs, once kevin love was on board the only team in the league with 3 all stars 30 and under. it wasnt just about contending, it was about stacking the deck and maximizing his title window. otherwise why team up with 2 all stars rather than 1.

same deal with kd, cept there wasnt a team with that kind of a title window with 3 young all stars to contend with either time lebron left in free agency. so where was kd going to go where he could follow lebron's blueprint of being on a team with more young all stars than anyone else in the league. the answer is there wasnt a place where he could make that happen other than golden state.

If LeBron went to Boston you'd have an argument. As is, nah.
 
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