Will Smith: It's Our Responsibility to Clean Up the Mess in the Black Community

[MeachTheMonster]

i think Bill Cosby just lost his mind with the new generation . That speech came from a heart of a old man that was out of touch, Bill was always that clean nice wholesome black actor(that how they painted him)kind of like Will. He deserved to be called out for that bullshyt he was selling "Pull up yours pants" nonsense


now Responsibility.... in what manner?what does he mean about that?

Responsibility - the state or fact of being accountable or to blame for something.


It was in the context of Ferguson and gun issues(about race in America):

In particular, he stated: "This is a gun culture. And it's painful for me, because I cannot figure out how to be helpful.


I've always been telling my sons, We have to separate fault from responsibility—whose fault it is that black men are in this situation, whose fault it is doesn't matter. It's our responsibility to make it go right. It's our responsibility. It's a lot of people's fault, systemic racism, and it's a lot of people's fault that the black community is in the situation that we're in, but it's our responsibility to clean up the mess."


he acknowledge systemic racism(i think most coli appointed 'c00n" acknowledge that somewhat too) just like Cosby without the "ridiculous" nonsense but he also states it doesn't matter whose fault it is, take responsibility in the context of Ferguson and gun issues


to me that doesn't mean fighting white supremacy, it mean forget that shyt and take responsibility, he calling us out collectively to take responsibility (in the context of Ferguson and gun issues)


" our responsibility", or " respect yourself "...about black ppl getting killed in America.

I took the "its our responsibility" as a call to arms for us and for people in his position to stand up and do something. I didn't take it as blame because he already addressed the blame.

And the gun culture part wasnt about black people. It was about the police.

 

[Originalman]

No, Will deflected from whites and white supremacy by saying it doesn't matter. It's the same "blacks just got to do better" shyt that Kendrick, Boosie, Barkley, ect have all been kicking lately. These guys get up and say stuff like this to appease whites. These comments aren't for blacks, they're for whites. Whites say the exact same shyt "hey blacks racism isn't that bad. in fact, you're all racist too. Stop making excuses and start taking personal responsibility for your own communities" That's basically what Will's comments allude to here.

See brotha this is the thing. These entertainers get they life style and checks from white folks. So they will not say too much to offend them. As I said before they are bought and sold like the cars I get from the auction. These white folks own them plan and simple.

Also the thing is you got fools on here acting like this some got damn ground breaking shyt that Will has said. It really says more about the folks on here than anyone. This mind set of do it yourself has been passed along to black folks for hundreds of years. You can go to any black parent, grand parent, teacher, black school, black college, black church, black barber shop, black beauty shop, black business and black etc and etc and hear the same message.

If you are actually black (which I question some of the folks on here) and have not heard this message then it says more about you and your upbringing and the people you hang with than anything else.

Last like I said all this debating about cleaning up communities is bull shyt when the majority of these black communities that need help do not have educated, middle (and higher up) black folks in these communities investing in them. All this we need to do this such and such is bull shyt cause them black folks in those communities ain't getting the support from them same black folks who love to run off at the mouth about what needs to be done.

Until mothafukkas have some real unity....pre integration. You know blacks well to do and middle class helping and investing in the poor and underclass communities all this shyt is verbal masturbation.

shyt is really stupid to read this thread. You got clowns talking about what you name your kids. Which is dumb cause I got a got damn Jewish name and white folks done gave me the heisman stiff arm when I went in for an interview. You got clowns acting like this little comment by Will is so ground breaking when this shyt the equivalent of Spike Lee going on Bill O'Reilly show and talking about what black folks need to do to improve themselves. Just 28 pages of dumb shyt.

 

[DLo]

I wouldn't trust anyone else to "fix" our community.

 

[scarlxrd]

30 posts in and no one has used the c word yet

I'm impressed

It's kind of fukked up that this is what I expect on this board.

 

[Londilon]

I love how he throws around the word "our". He has more money than the average black american let alone the average black man. Yet I'm still looking for what he does for the black community. Playing roles in movies and making bank does nothing for the black community if he doesn't donate or help black children or help to build in the black community.

I predict that his children will marry someone non-black and all the fortune goes out of the black community into another. This dude is a c00n.

 

[loyola llothta]

I took the "its our responsibility" as a call to arms for us and for people in his position to stand up and do something. I didn't take it as blame because he already addressed the blame.

And the gun culture part wasnt about black people. It was about the police.

"whose fault it is doesn't matter" in the context of Ferguson and gun issues

 

[loyola llothta]

I love how he throws around the word "our". He has more money than the average black american let along the average black man. Yet I'm still looking for what he does for the black community. Playing roles in movies and making bank does nothing for the black community if he doesn't donate or help black children or help to build in the black community.

I predict that his children will marry someone none black and all the fortune goes out of the black community into another. This dude is a c00n.

took 29 pages. i dont count trolling

 

[Londilon]

took 29 pages. i dont count trolling

But tell me what has that nikka done for the black community? Don't say its "our" responsibility when he does nothing. Say its is black people's responsibility. In all honesty that nikka is worrying more about how he can get his instead of how to uplift the black community. Stop listening to selfish celebrities that will donate to some shyt like save the animals but wont donate to make more schools in the black community.

 

[Originalman]

I'm looking in the past to let you and the others know it takes resources to uplift the people. Our wealthy peers have to step in to help the lower-income class to build a solid community like the older generation did in the era of segregation. With no resources and the tools to build we won't be able to compete in a capitalist society even Claude Anderson have said this many times in his speech of economic empowerment.

Ding ding ding we have a winner. Check this out my wife is from a small town in Mississippi. The town is mostly black. The man who employees most of the town is black. He owns a company with a white dude. This same black man along with his family lives in the black part of town. The black part of town is made up of poor, middle class and well to do blacks.

So you can have all of the same block (or road as they would say) in this area a single mom with 4 kids living in a trailer, the school principle with his family living in a 3 bed room house. The lower blue coller family (father is a construction worker)that lives in a small house with 4 kids, the doctor that lives in a huge house and finally the black man that has the biggest business in town lives on a 40 acre piece of land with his family.

Now this is all on one road. The poor lives amongst the middle class and well to do. When the single mom with kids has issues with money she goes to the church and everyone in the community donates money to help her out. Her car breaks down well the brotha that owns the big business contacts the car dealer in town to help her out with a new car. The community as a whole works together and the well to do folks invest in the community so they do not need any outside help.

See because of integration in these big cities you don't have this type of social structure where folks in different economical backgrounds live amongst one another. Even my mother who was in the civil rights movement mentioned that the death of the black community and black businesses was integration. Once blacks knew they could spend their money with whites and live with them they were like fukk it I am gone.

I will never forget when my mom took me to her old neighborhood as a kid and to see the eye doctor she went to as a kid. We went in there and she asked him how is business. Dude was like it sucks....ever since the neighborhood changed Years ago I can't get any customers. The poor people here have no insurance so they don't come here and all the black people with good jobs and who had insurance left the neighborhood and never came back to even though I was their doctor when white folks wouldn't see them and when they couldn't live in their neighborhoods.

That is where you get comments like dikk Gregory (when he talked about the neighborhood in Ohio where the two black neighbors in a white neighborhood wanted integration to work so bad that they helped chase off black potential residents) when he said back in the day that even black people don't want to live next to other blacks. They would prefer to live next to poor white people than rich black people.

 

[Originalman]

There wasn't only one Black Wallstreet in black america in the era of segregation. Blacks were for themselves, and did many things independently because the rich blacks and the people with trade skills were the leaders who built many affluent black neighborhood. Blacks also had progressive communities in Chicago, St.Louis, Harlem, Jacksonville, Baltimore, Detroit, and Overtown was named the Color Town in its glorious years. Some of the black affluent neighborhood were destroyed by racial riots and while others fell off because economic hardship that were galvanized by systemic oppression.

Amen. This dude actually said one black wall street.....lol. Jokers don't even know history. Lord this shyt is such a waste of time. There were affluent and self sufficient black neighborhoods all across america.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

"whose fault it is doesn't matter" in the context of Ferguson and gun issues

You are splitting it up and puting it that way. He wasnt saying it doesn't matter who's fault it is that Mike Brown was shot.

He was talking about in the context of "fixing" our overall issues, fault doesn't matter. Which i still disagree with, but its not as bad as the way you are puting it.

 

[Originalman]

I love how he throws around the word "our". He has more money than the average black american let alone the average black man. Yet I'm still looking for what he does for the black community. Playing roles in movies and making bank does nothing for the black community if he doesn't donate or help black children or help to build in the black community.

I predict that his children will marry someone non-black and all the fortune goes out of the black community into another. This dude is a c00n.

You know the routine homie. Jokers love to say black community but won't even buy a business or invest in homes and etc in these same communities. Like I said before Will got played when he even agreed to do an interview with Esquire. He might as well had endorsed a Tea Party member.....just straight up played.

 

[loyola llothta]

You are splitting it up and puting it that way. He wasnt saying it doesn't matter who's fault it is that Mike Brown was shot.

He was talking about in the context of "fixing" our overall issues, fault doesn't matter. Which i still disagree with, but its not as bad as the way you are puting it.

nah that what OP post, it is as clear as day

It was in the context of Ferguson and gun issues(about race in America):

We have to separate fault from responsibility—whose fault it is that black men are in this situation, whose fault it is doesn't matter. It's our responsibility to make it go right. It's our responsibility. It's a lot of people's fault, systemic racism, and it's a lot of people's fault that the black community is in the situation that we're in, but it's our responsibility to clean up the mess."

come on breh

 

[MeachTheMonster]

nah that what OP post, it is as clear as day

It was in the context of Ferguson and gun issues(about race in America):

We have to separate fault from responsibility—whose fault it is that black men are in this situation, whose fault it is doesn't matter. It's our responsibility to make it go right. It's our responsibility. It's a lot of people's fault, systemic racism, and it's a lot of people's fault that the black community is in the situation that we're in, but it's our responsibility to clean up the mess."

come on breh

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I didn't get the accusatory tone from Wills comments that I did from the others.

 

[Loose]

nah that what OP post, it is as clear as day

It was in the context of Ferguson and gun issues(about race in America):

We have to separate fault from responsibility—whose fault it is that black men are in this situation, whose fault it is doesn't matter. It's our responsibility to make it go right. It's our responsibility. It's a lot of people's fault, systemic racism, and it's a lot of people's fault that the black community is in the situation that we're in, but it's our responsibility to clean up the mess."

come on breh

I think what will was trying to say is that yes he knows systematic white supremacy exist, but we are going to get blue in the face complaining about it. He's saying that we need to fix the community ourselves because no one is going to help us do it. Cacs aren't going to own up to what they have done, so therefore we need to take the steps to do this shyt ourselves