Will The Continent Of Africa EVER Produce A Country That Can Be A "Superpower"?

[Dzali OG]

It's 2017 not 1080 AD.
These countries coalescing into some giant blob of a country will destabilize the continent even more. It will need a very strong central government to keep it together, and that will just open up more avenues for corruption and ethic unrest. What a lot of African countries need is a system where they weaken their federal governments, and give more power to their regional governments. They need to add more anti-corruption measures and take out the fiefdoms that plague their countries.

And how are regions going to compete with countries like the usa or china?

America is so powerful because there are 50 states that form like voltron when there's a threat.

please don't prove these crackas right, that they winning because they're more evolved than us.

Trying tell me we would rather not get to the bag, than work with other blacks...

 

[Bonk]

Most African countries need a change of leadership and government restructure for a chance of a superpower to happen but people are too selfish and too dependent on the West.

Another problem is the brain drain too.

Can I ask you a few questions?

 

[AB Ziggy]

Can I ask you a few questions?

Fire away?

 

[Bonk]

Fire away?

Are you Ga, Ewe, Akan, or from the Northern region of Ghana?

And why do Ghanaians still refer to Yorubas as 'Anago' which is the ancient name for Yorubas?

 

[AB Ziggy]

Are you Ga, Ewe, Akan, or from the Northern region of Ghana?

And why do Ghanaians still refer to Yorubas as 'Anago' which is the ancient name for Yorubas?

I'm quite mixed actually. More specifically 75% Dagomba(from the Northern Region), and 25% Yoruba(my grandmother on my mom's side is from Kaduna State, Nigeria).

And i don't hear this term all that much nowadays compared to 20 years ago. Back then, it was used is to refer to separate the indigenous Yoruba community from the more recent migrant Yoruba immigrants that's been coming in from Nigeria and Benin.

 

[Bonk]

I'm quite mixed actually. More specifically 75% Dagomba(from the Northern Region), and 25% Yoruba(my grandmother on my mom's side is from Kaduna State, Nigeria).

And i don't hear this term all that much nowadays compared to 20 years ago. Back then, it was used is to refer to separate the indigenous Yoruba community from the more recent migrant Yoruba immigrants that's been coming in from Nigeria and Benin.

Nice. You must be very tall then because Ghanaians from the Northern region are always quite tall.

Anyway, I just asked because some Ghana rastafarian breh I used to play football with kind of started calling me 'Anago' when he discovered that I'm Nigerian Yoruba. Obviously, I clocked what he meant because I know 'Anago' and 'Lucumi' are ancient names for Yoruba.

Also, what happened to Ghana? Ghana was on the right path for a while, till your economy crashed. And now, it's where Nigeria is, in disarray. Ivory Coast is another country that got thrown in the doldrums. West African countries need to do better.

 

[mbewane]

Africa is too p*ssy, its leaders are too greedy, and overall Africans are too racially ignorant to be a superpower any time soon.

At this rate, I got Africa rising in 100 years

What do you mean by this?

People don't get that Africa is more complex than the US or EU will ever realize. You can't apply the Western perspective to African life and expect to get good results. Even politics among West African countries are different from each other for this unification to happen.

Exactly. Applying the Western perspective is precisely what got us where we are now, nation-state is a Western construct that isn't even 200 years old and people talk about like it's a "natural" way to organize a state, when it's only the most recent. Like I've said various times in these threads about Africa is we got to find our way OURSELVES as opposed of trying to import/adapt concepts and models that were developped over centuries in other parts of the world due to local particularities and try to put them in Africa without taking ino account local history/context/etc. Check out Felwinne Sar's "Afrotopia", should be translated in English soon. Senghor also talked about this, but haven't read his books yet.

Howeve for members of the diasporas (like myself) must also be careful because whatever we say, we're not living on the continent on a day-to-day basis so there are certain local realities/tendencies/trends we might not be fully aware, and living in the West we integrate more Western elements than we might be willing to admit we do. So as people in the diaspoas we also have to be careful not to ourselves tell "we know what's best" for Africa...

 

[Free White & 21]

Africa is too p*ssy, its leaders are too greedy, and overall Africans are too racially ignorant to be a superpower any time soon.

At this rate, I got Africa rising in 100 years

What do you mean by this?

The africans are still practicing Petty Tribalism. They refuse to simply see themselves as black. They still proudly see themselves as the dull knives of strategically insignificant "Ethnicities".

The African continent is a drawer full of dull knives. A dull knife won't cut.

 

[AB Ziggy]

The africans are still practicing Petty Tribalism. They refuse to simply see themselves as black. They still proudly see themselves as the dull knives of strategically insignificant "Ethnicities".

The African continent is a drawer full of dull knives. A dull knife won't cut.

I'm not saying we're perfect but you want us to abandon the pride, history, and culture of our ethnic groups in favor of the concept you guys had been forcibly adopted on by slavery?

So far it hasn't done much better for you guys in the US in the eyes of the white man. Let us worry about our things, and you worry about yours first before you start dictating the future direction Africans should go.

 

[Free White & 21]

I'm not saying we're perfect but you want us to abandon the pride, history, and culture of our tribes in favor of the concept you AAs had been forcibly adopted on by slavery?

So far it hasn't any better for you guys in the US in the eyes of the white man. Let us worry about our things, and you worry about yours first breh

I never said that - pay closer attention. Key Phrase: Petty Tribalism

And for the record i'm not "worried" about africans at all

 

[Hoodoo Child]

Africa (as a whole) is in the process of growing and rebuilding. It's gonna be a WHILE before see her back to her full grace.

 

[mbewane]

The africans are still practicing Petty Tribalism. They refuse to simply see themselves as black. They still proudly see themselves as the dull knives of strategically insignificant "Ethnicities".

The African continent is a drawer full of dull knives. A dull knife won't cut.

"Black" as a concept isn't African to begin with, that's why most don't refer to themselves that way. It sounds obvious for Black Americans, but it's a western concept. Even Panafricanism is a recent construct, in reaction to Western hegemony. That's why it doesn't work, because it's artificial for the time being.

And what you call tribalism would be called nationalism/regionalism in Europe for example.

 

[Free White & 21]

"Black" as a concept isn't African to begin with, that's why most don't refer to themselves that way. It sounds obvious for Black Americans, but it's a western concept. Even Panafricanism is a recent construct, in reaction to Western hegemony. That's why it doesn't work, because it's artificial for the time being.

And what you call tribalism would be called nationalism/regionalism in Europe for example.

Whatever reason they have for not identifying as Black, is a strategic blunder. They're gonna hold that L until they wake up, or just be happy being the brokest people on the richest continent indefinitely.

Pan Africanism doesn't work because of the weakness of the African mindset.

 

[AB Ziggy]

Whatever reason they have for not identifying as Black, is a strategic blunder. They're gonna hold that L until they wake up, or just be happy being the brokest people on the richest continent indefinitely.

Pan Africanism doesn't work because of the weakness of the African mindset.

To be honest here, you guys are the only ones caring for this concept more than most Africans(and from what i see, neither do most AAs seem to care much either)

The average African is more worried about building themselves and their own communities first rather than thinking about how to connect with the other side. What you're suggesting is basically for us to adopt your beliefs that came due to your Western upbringing and history leading back to slavery, except you just happen to have same appearance as us rather than the white man.

What I believe is that both sides need to be more self-sufficient and accepting of the differences between each other before collaborations can occur.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

They're able to but will they? Idk