Will The Continent Of Africa EVER Produce A Country That Can Be A "Superpower"?

Will The Continent Of Africa Ever Produce A Country That Can Be A Superpower?


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Exactly, I know first hand as a Belgian citizen. What we call tribalism in Africa is what we call nationalism/regionalism in Europe. So it's stil very much present, and there is no such thing as a "singular identity", even within nation states.

That's why it's a stretch to even consider putting all of Africa under one single identity ("Black").

And that's also why we must be careful of applying western concepts (as I said, nation-state with a single identity is a western concept...and it doesn't even exist in the West) to Africa.
Best Africa can hope for is to unite along regional and religious lines. Only AA believe uniting by race is possible. Anyone who's African knows thats like uniting Koreans Japanese and malaysians.

If anyone ever managed to unite Africans by race it would be the most fragile entity in existence
 
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The days of superpowers are over. We entering an age of great powers. Which means a return of history. In Africa's case I would say Ghana, Ethiopia, maybe Angola could be regional powers. It's fukked up the powerful nations in Africa are Egypt,Algeria,Morocco and South Africa. Three of which are Arab/Berber and one is still dominated by a white minority. :francis:
 
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The chip on your shoulder is indeed quite obvious in the way you are generalizing and portraying Africans as weak-minded and whatnot.

As I said, "Petty tribalism" is something you find everywhere under various forms, it's just more obvious in Africa because of the lack of an organized state. Problem is, that tribalism (which is also sometimes exagerated in the exotic view the West has of Africa, and is used to "explain" damn near everything, implying that whatever issue is strictly due to local "backwardness") is also the result of populations having been stuck together artificially and/or of this tribe having been advantaged by the colonizer for whatever reason. Most obvious example being Rwanda.

So as in everything, issues don't have one single reason, and blaming "tribalism" for everything sounds like when Westerners blame "tradition" or "African civilization" for whatever issue we may have.

Breh.. i respect you as a poster so please read me carefully.

This not about WHY these Africans are doing the stupid things they do - that's another subject for another time. I'm simply pointing out 3 things they're doing that'll prevent them from becoming a superpower.

1. They're p*ssy (they are)
2. Their leaders are too corrupt (they are)
3. They engage in Petty Tribalism (they do)

If I'm wrong about these things let me know.

Petty Tribalism is very limited in scope. In the modern day it looks like separation based on ethnicity for no intelligent reason.

Intelligent Tribalism is what the white man did. He expanded the tribe under the banner of whiteness and feasted on the world.
 
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i assume this "weakness" of africans is every where because there is no example on this planet of a black power so not sure why you are limiting it to the contentinent when this weakness is exhibited in every nation there are people.

Not sure why you are implying there are black people doing something right and others need to get with the program when blacks are losing everywhere they exist.

We're talking about Africans on the continent. Don't move the goalposts.
 

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We're talking about Africans on the continent. Don't move the goalposts.

Tribalism amongst Blacks is a Global thing. There is no example of Blacks on this planet having a unified front with tangible results, so to speak of a group having some "genetic weakness", you sound like a c00n or white supremacist.
 
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Igbo here, I do agree that tribalism is one of the factors that's stopping a country like Nigeria from emerging as a superpower, but i feel that tribalism isn't the root of the problem.

The root of the problem is the slave education system the brits left us with. Nigeria would need to restructure its educational system to be focused on enlightening its citizens, instead of creating retards, before the country can emerge as a superpower.

What's preventing the Nigerians from changing the education system?
 
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Tribalism amongst Blacks is a Global thing. There is no example of Blacks on this planet having a unified front with tangible results, so to speak of a group having some "genetic weakness", you sound like a c00n or white supremacist.

Youre incorrect.

You're being emotional.

Also, you're still moving the goalposts.

This is about African countries becoming superpowers. Not the issues of black people worldwide - stay on topic
 

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Best Africa can hope for is to unite along regional and religious lines. Only AA believe uniting by race is possible. Anyone who's African knows thats like uniting Koreans Japanese and malaysians.

If anyone ever managed to unite Africans by race it would be the most fragile entity in existence

Exactly. Rather regional as religious lines are mostly imported and imply more risk of outside meddling.

As for the bolded totally agree.

Breh.. i respect you as a poster so please read me carefully.

This not about WHY these Africans are doing the stupid things they do - that's another subject for another time. I'm simply pointing out 3 things they're doing that'll prevent them from becoming a superpower.

1. They're p*ssy (they are)
2. Their leaders are too corrupt (they are)
3. They engage in Petty Tribalism (they do)

If I'm wrong about these things let me know.

Petty Tribalism is very limited in scope. In the modern day it looks like separation based on ethnicity for no intelligent reason.

Intelligent Tribalism is what the white man did. He expanded the tribe under the banner of whiteness and feasted on the world.

Glad you do. I'll be honest as I can't say the same as you have a condescending way of speaking about Africans, which I usually only hear from racist White people. No disrespect, but you've been repeating platitudes and generalizations the whole thread.

Anyone can play that game :

- AAs are p*ssy for killing fellow AAs instead of rebelling against their oppressors. Burning a couple cars every now and then won't achieve much.
- AAs don't even have leaders to be corrupt. Took the son of a Kenyan to FINALLY have a Black president. Next best thing was Ben Carson lol.
- While Africans have tribalism, AAs push the absurdity even further by beefing between projects of the same damn city.

See how easy it is to make stupid generalizations that don't mean shyt?

1. They're "p*ssy" because you keep repeating it. Where in Africa have you been to see the everyday struggle these people go through? Putting food on their plate, educating the kids, fighting diseases and whatnot, all of this after being gutted by slavery, colonization etc, and they're STILL there managing to create, build, innovate. And here you are calling a whole continent p*ssy. I guess you've been following the Arab spring (yes, Northern Africa is Africa), the protests in Senegal, Burkina, DRC, CAR, Madagscar, SA? All those people are p*ssy?

2. Leaders are corrupt all over the world (US presidency is actually based on who gets the most money to campaign, yet they have the balls to call other people "corrupt"). What exactly do you think happens to a lot of people who aren't corrupt?

3. "Petty tribalism" is what is called nationalism/regionalism in the West, you keep dodging this point. US is built on "America first" and you say it's Africans pushing tribalism. Don't you understand that one is just a form of the other? AND it's not ALL Africans that engage in tribalism, but it's obvious you will have more tribalism when you put together people who don't share common cultures or whatnot. What happened in Yougoslavia? I repeat myself, but how do you think tribalism developped in the first place in Rwanda?

And the white men did not "expanded the tribe under the banner of whiteness and feasted on the world", they feasted on the world PRECISELY to have more ressources for the inner battles and positioning in Europe. You think Portugal and Spain invaded Latin Ameirca "for the white man"? Lol. They did so to accumulate riches in the intra-euro competition. No one cared about "whiteness" then, that shyt was intellectuallized AFTER the fact in order to "justify" it. That's the problem with Black Americans, y'all think the whole world has always and still only revolves around race. And that's what I've been saying since the beginnning, that Black in the diasporas must be cautious not to themselves see Africa throughout their own bias, which is a Western bias. African intellectuals are already speaking on this, as well as people in the diasporas. Basically, be humble is what they're saying. shyt the whole point of the Berlin conference was to cut up Africa BEFORE the respective Euro armies ended up fighting in Africa too. They did not sit together because they were allies, they sat together precisely because they were competitors. How you explain Fachoda if they were "united under the banner of whiteness"?
 

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No. You need a country with a massive population and this point in history. Over 200 million at least. On top of that, I wouldn't want to be, I quite like how our lands are untainted, rather not chop down all of our nature in favor for urban bullshyt. Keep a handful of cities for every country and it's good enough.
 
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