WNBA players make a big statement "pay us what you owe us"

[dh86]

To be fair, they owe the NBA millions in that case

The WNBA is subsidized by the NBA.

The franchise fee from 6 expansion teams more than paid for that

 

[Big Boss]

Pay these women what they owe


They keep expanding

 

[CHICAGO]

THE CHICAGO SKY TICKETS
COST THE SAME AMOUNT
IF NOT MORE THAN A LOT
OF NBA TEAMS TICKETS COST
YET THE SALARY CAP IS ONLY 1.5MS

THERES MONEY BEING MADE
AND NOT REPORTED.

THE NBA SAYS THEYRE LOSING MONEY YET NO ONE HAS SEEN THE BOOKS

WE WOULDNT HAVE 6 NEW TEAMS
IN THE NEXT SIX YEARS
PAYING 9 FIGURES TO JOIN
A FAILING LEAGUE


​

 

[dh86]

Still waiting on proof that the NBA "made that money back and then some" when it comes to the WNBA

Now ya'll are comparing Amazon to the WNBA. Damn, ya'll are down bad

Prove NBA lost over a billion dollars because the six expansion teams brought in 1.5 just in fees

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Wearing this after their league lost 50 million in its best season ever is wild


Lower the rims and make them play in booty shorts, and the numbers will go up

Even if that's true (there's speculation of them cooking the books) this is about future earnings. The new TV deal will be kicking in

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Uh...That's exactly how business works. If Amazon started a company that had negative ROI for 20 years, when they suddenly start making money, the investors have to get paid back. They may not take it all at once (that would be dumb, ala owners taking 100% of the TV deal money) and they obviously have to leave the "new company" (ala the WNBA) with enough profit to keep it growing (say players get 20% of TV deal money instead of the 9.3% now). But every company in the world that invests in another has to get ROI. There is no "you did it on your own". Especially in the case of the WNBA that took heaps of NBA money to even be on the radar.

You missed my point the nba will make money because they are an owner. I’m saying they don’t have to take any money from someone they already fukking own. You said all that trying to be smart and still agreed with me idiot.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Still waiting on proof that the NBA "made that money back and then some" when it comes to the WNBA

Now ya'll are comparing Amazon to the WNBA. Damn, ya'll are down bad

I literally told you Jeff Teague podcast. Quick tell me how long it took the nba and nfl to become profitable. And why were they still increasingly giving the players a bigger share despite not being profitable

 

[Rekkapryde]

It's fair, but the problem is that they've lost so much money over the years that the NBA is going to want a cut and return on their ROI for the subsidizing they did all those years. I know they want to break away from the NBA and do the deals on their own, but that's not going to happen unless they can come up with the bread to pay them off on their own and it not cut into their revenue.

I think that's the biggest point that the players are overlooking. People are looking at future money coming in and now what's already been spent helping them stay afloat till they turned a profit.

Owners have also been writing off those losses as well for years too to benefit themselves.

 

[UpAndComing]

I first learned about revenue and profit in economics. And I'm banking on the fact that the league is expanding to 18 teams (13 right now) by 2030 and the 2.2 BILLION DOLLAR TV DEAL.

Why are you sucking owner dikk so hard right now? It's very obvious the owners are making money hand over fist right now despite the past. Billionaires are fukking everyone over in this country, you think these women should just lay down and join the fray?

Now I'm "sucking the Owner's dikk" cause the WNBA has been not profitable for 20+ years and profitable for 1 and somehow that means they should get a pay raise because "in the future they'll surely make a billion dollars IN PROFIT". Not in revenue mind you, IN PROFIT

That is not how business valuations, real estate valuations, or business loans are given out... basing everything on 1 profitable year out of 20+. Pro Formas and Financial Projections get thrown out when the Underwriter wants to see the actual real numbers

 

[LV Koopa]

You missed my point the nba will make money because they are an owner. I’m saying they don’t have to take any money from someone they already fukking own. You said all that trying to be smart and still agreed with me idiot.

And you're wrong. And you can say it as many times as you like and you'll keep showing you've never owned anything or done any real business.

Any entity you own has to pay you back for investing in it, whether that be in profit or valuations exploding. The WNBA for all intents and purposes is just an entry in the books. The owners that took losses for years will need their cut. This includes investors outside of the NBA itself. If Amazon saw Kindle losing 20 million a year and it suddenly was valued at 2.2 billion, you best believe some of the equity in Kindle will be sold for profit and some of the cash in the business will be distributed.

THE CHICAGO SKY TICKETS
COST THE SAME AMOUNT
IF NOT MORE THAN A LOT
OF NBA TEAMS TICKETS COST
YET THE SALARY CAP IS ONLY 1.5MS

THERES MONEY BEING MADE
AND NOT REPORTED.

THE NBA SAYS THEYRE LOSING MONEY YET NO ONE HAS SEEN THE BOOKS

WE WOULDNT HAVE 6 NEW TEAMS
IN THE NEXT SIX YEARS
PAYING 9 FIGURES TO JOIN
A FAILING LEAGUE


​

Always a problem with sports teams. This is outside of this discussion but you have to essentially treat them as rare art pieces. NBA teams paper valuations often understate what they'd be sold for once they hit the market. Very rare, very limited, very prestigious to own one. When the 2011 lockout happened the players and some of the non-stupid public finally realized a team worth $250 million on paper could easily sell for 1 billion (Sacramento Kings are a good example). The books for a sports league rarely reflect reality.

 

[Sccit]

It’s not gonna be operating at a loss anymore idiot and the nba keep it operating at a loss because it’s a long term investment and helps grow the NBA.

The WNBA’s financial picture in 2025 still shows a substantial annual loss. According to multiple credible sources, the league is projected to lose about $50 million this season.

For example, both Sherwood News and sports analyst outlets report that while revenues have grown markedly, losses have ballooned—reaching roughly $50 million in 2024—and are on track to remain at that level in 2025

Despite a near-tripling of revenue—driven by new TV deals, record attendance, and skyrocketing franchise valuations—the league is reinvesting heavily: charter flights for teams, expansion costs, marketing, and facility upgrades. These investments have outpaced revenue growth, deepening the annual losses

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Owners have also been writing off those losses as well for years too to benefit themselves.

Of course, but now that the league is making money they’re not going to let that go and sure as hell not going to let them broker a deal on their own without any cut out of it.

Those other investors aren’t either and I don’t necessarily blame them.

 

[dh86]

Now I'm "sucking the Owner's dikk" cause the WNBA has been not profitable for 20+ years and profitable for 1 and somehow that means they should get a pay raise because "in the future they'll surely make a billion dollars IN PROFIT". Not in revenue mind you, IN PROFIT

That is not how business valuations, real estate valuations, or business loans are given out... basing everything on 1 profitable year out of 20+. Pro Formas and Financial Projections get thrown out when the Underwriter wants to see the actual real numbers

Tell us how it works so we can clown

 

[phillycavsfan]

Now I'm "sucking the Owner's dikk" cause the WNBA has been not profitable for 20+ years and profitable for 1 and somehow that means they should get a pay raise because "in the future they'll surely make a billion dollars IN PROFIT". Not in revenue mind you, IN PROFIT

That is not how business valuations, real estate valuations, or business loans are given out... basing everything on 1 profitable year out of 20+. Pro Formas and Financial Projections get thrown out when the Underwriter wants to see the actual real numbers. And you got people on here comparing the WNBA to Amazon. Ya'll are really down bad

You keep looking in the past and not the future. Everything about the next 10 years - current team valuations, expansion, TV deal - says this league is about to become very, very profitable.

The players have put themselves in a good negotiating with Unrivaled on the rise. Time to put pressure on the owners.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Despite a near-tripling of revenue—driven by new TV deals, record attendance, and skyrocketing franchise valuations—the league is reinvesting heavily: charter flights for teams, expansion costs, marketing, and facility upgrades. These investments have outpaced revenue growth, deepening the annual losses

And that right there is what the league should be doing. You can't complain about "losses" when you are also heavily reinvesting. The players themselves gave the league the ball... the players are the reason for the new TV deal and the record attendance and the skyrocketing valuations. That's off the hard work of the players. They gave the league the ball and now it's up to the league to run with it.

Meanwhile.... it's absolutely the right time for the players to ask "what's my cut?"