Wop really lapped Ross, Jeezy, & Tip

[The Connoisseurs]

Your saying irrelevant facts that I already knew. You said that as if "black tee" was a mainstream success.
Jeezy opened the flood gates for wack nikkas after he blew just as I said.
You won't ever catch me saying nonsense like rappers need middle america validation.
But the streets outside of Atlanta didn't give a damn about Gucci or Black Tee.
Jeezy said he thought So Icey would be his record and it was stolen,Gucci didn't even pay Jeezy for his appearance.
If Gucci was hot in the streets of Atlanta, I think its obvious why Jeezy as a street nikka in Atlanta would care enough to diss Guc.


There would be no "trap music" without Jeezy so you proved the point. You don't even remember the fact that "trap music" became its own genre based on the negative perception of that style from many. It was practically a slur to be put in the category of trap rapper. Because you were being put in the group with guys who weren't trying to be good,know they aren't good,but were just trying to be as simplistic as possible in hopes they could be the next Jeezy. Who though he was loved,was heavily considered wack at the time. T.I was never put in the category with other "trap rappers" back in the day because he was respected as an emcee and musically by all.We all know Gucci isn't holding a candle to T.I as an emcee so I won't even acknowledge that. Doesn't matter whos lines you think Gucci's is better than,he ain't better than any of the people we talking about in here. And wasn't more influential or more impactful when they were their most infuential and impactful.And never managed to be bigger despite plenty of nice placements,and desperate commercial reaches,when they tried to force it.

So icey is a zaytoven production .. Gucci label is even called so icey awhatyachatbout


How could you think it’s your record and then say you ain’t get paid for your appearance which one is it ?

I clearly remember in 2005 on bet when they asked Cassidy who he bumping he said that real street rap and said Gucci mane and Jeezy.

There’s a reason why the streets gravitated towards Gucci because he was spitting facts they can relate too that only a actual street rapper could rap about ..” you can’t make it up”.

...Cooking dope with a clothing hanger .. j’s smoking out of coke cans , and cleaning your rims for dollars.

By 08 Gucci had more listeners than Jeezy .. even DJ drama had to jump on the wave ..

 

[JustCKing]

Jeezy bubbling is the reason that song was on the radio in the first place though

That song took off on its own. This was around the time when Trap or Die was just catching on and people were just starting to see Jeezy as a force.

 

[Benefited]

That song took off on its own. This was around the time when Trap or Die was just catching on and people were just starting to see Jeezy as a force.

So if it was around the time,that means Jeezy could be the reason it blew up. Since everything he was touching was seeming to get play of some sort I would bet on that,seeing as I never heard of a Gucci Mane prior to a Jeezy feature.

 

[Benefited]

So icey is a zaytoven production .. Gucci label is even called so icey awhatyachatbout


How could you think it’s your record and then say you ain’t get paid for your appearance which one is it ?

I clearly remember in 2005 on bet when they asked Cassidy who he bumping he said that real street rap and said Gucci mane and Jeezy.

There’s a reason why the streets gravitated towards Gucci because he was spitting facts they can relate too that only a actual street rapper could rap about ..” you can’t make it up”.

...Cooking dope with a clothing hanger .. j’s smoking out of coke cans , and cleaning your rims for dollars.

By 08 Gucci had more listeners than Jeezy .. even DJ drama had to jump on the wave ..

Where is your proof Gucci had more listeners by 08?I guess anthems like "Put On" wasn't shyt. The Reccession was a great album,nikkas ain't fukk with "Circulate"?

The fact Cassidy said that means he was talking about the So Icey record,not that he was bumping them both individually. What the hell are you talking about?You are saying all this as if the streets didn't gravitate to Jeezy and T.I?Its clear you weren't around now. You really couldn't have been,you are talking like you didn't see the impact Jeezy made in the streets,one of the crazier impacts we've ever seen. Jeezys BMF ties made him THEE authentic d-boy rapper of his era,not Gucci. Gucci isn't the first to rap about that stuff,there was a lane dedicated to that which is why the "trap music" genre being new is a myth,but thats a different topic.

Jeezy not getting paid should be proof he thought it was his record. He obviously didn't know about the business,and that he shouldn't leave the recording with the other rapper. What other reason would he have to try to claim that record if it wasn't a matter of principle?other than extortion there would be no reason.

 

[K.Dot]

Nobody in Columbus I know is bumping Gucci at all

I didn't go to school in Columbus but I gotta call unless you wasn't in the hood

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Sure

Gucci can't sell water in hell but he bigger than them



Gucci bipolar ass IG stunting and yall think he a big artist now

 

[Kenny West]

Extremely false. nikkas in the HOOD treat Gucci like they'd treat jesus, I know because I used to hate him simply because everybody else worshipped that nikka. Would go over my fammo house and he got some hood dvd of Gucci cooking dope with naked hoes and freestyling. Go on the bus to school and nikkas playing that fukking photoshoot song the fukk out. TI was making songs with Rihanna at that time and Ross hadn't dropped BMF yet and was rapping over soulful beats. The highschool teenager was not fukking with any of them. The most influential Midwest nikka in the last like 5 years is keef and he's a child of Gucci. You got young chop talmbout Gucci could come to Chicago and stop the violence

False, its gump ass nikkas in YOUR hood checking for that. nikkas up here actually like rap not stanning nikkas for doing hood shyt like suburban white boys.. "omg he whipping work on camera with a bytch there " honestly this post sounds like internet nikka shyt. Like yall got atlanta street rap dvds circulating in your hood as if yall aint got your own scene? You sure you not just describing you and your nikkas looking this shyt up on youtube?

I wish I woulda seen a fukkin gucci street dvd out here shyt would have made an excellent coaster.

The only place outside the south I witnessed nikkas fukkin with gucci that heavy was the dmv and pittsbugh. And in general gucci never been as big as ross ti and Jeezy in ALL the regions I mentioned.

hard truth you had to edit my post to dance around.

But fukk all that, where the numbers at? i know your whole hood aint disappear before streaming. Why gucci still flopping? 12 albums 0 plats

nikkas gonna keep basing it off influence? We gonna pretend its a win that a bunch of colorful dread mumble rappers took elements of gucci style and became more successful with it than he ever was?

Third tier regional artist

 

[The Connoisseurs]

Where is your proof Gucci had more listeners by 08?I guess anthems like "Put On" wasn't shyt. The Reccession was a great album,nikkas ain't fukk with "Circulate"?

The fact Cassidy said that means he was talking about the So Icey record,not that he was bumping them both individually. What the hell are you talking about?You are saying all this as if the streets didn't gravitate to Jeezy and T.I?Its clear you weren't around now. You really couldn't have been,you are talking like you didn't see the impact Jeezy made in the streets,one of the crazier impacts we've ever seen. Jeezys BMF ties made him THEE authentic d-boy rapper of his era,not Gucci. Gucci isn't the first to rap about that stuff,there was a lane dedicated to that which is why the "trap music" genre being new is a myth,but thats a different topic.

Jeezy not getting paid should be proof he thought it was his record. He obviously didn't know about the business,and that he shouldn't leave the recording with the other rapper. What other reason would he have to try to claim that record if it wasn't a matter of principle?other than extortion there would be no reason.

Nope so icey is not a hard trap record it’s about flossing do your wrong about Cassidy basing it off the so icey record.


You don’t know what you’re talking about
Chicken talk, ice attack , wilt Chamberlain series had the street ways..

It’s funny how MTV knew more about what was popping then the coli

Who did Jeezy birth ?

 

[The Connoisseurs]

False, its gump ass nikkas in YOUR hood checking for that. nikkas up here actually like rap not stanning nikkas for doing hood shyt like suburban white boys.. "omg he whipping work on camera with a bytch there " honestly this post sounds like internet nikka shyt. Like yall got atlanta street rap dvds circulating in your hood as if yall aint got your own scene? You sure you not just describing you and your nikkas looking this shyt up on youtube?

I wish I woulda seen a fukkin gucci street dvd out here shyt would have made an excellent coaster.

The only place outside the south I witnessed nikkas fukkin with gucci that heavy was the dmv and pittsbugh. And in general gucci never been as big as ross ti and Jeezy in ALL the regions I mentioned.

hard truth you had to edit my post to dance around.

But fukk all that, where the numbers at? i know your whole hood aint disappear before streaming. Why gucci still flopping? 12 albums 0 plats

nikkas gonna keep basing it off influence? We gonna pretend its a win that a bunch of colorful dread mumble rappers took elements of gucci style and became more successful with it than he ever was?

Third tier regional artist

You never heard of hood affairs or smack dvd or Jordan towers ? That’s where ain’t of his most classic videos and interview are from ..


How you going to mention dmv and Pitts only .. and act like Chicago, Detroit and Cleveland weren’t F’n with him. Matter of fact when he got black balled those were the towns that were really showing him love and kept him going.




The hood would buy five dollar mixtape or stream off datpiff and other mixtape sites .. don’t play dumb now

 

[The God Poster]

Gucci wasn’t a factor when they were popping?

Gucci’s first mainstream run began in 07

I’m lost after your first sentence.

The fact you decided not to address any of his other points says alot. You're clearly bias

 

[10:31]

The fact you decided not to address any of his other points says alot. You're clearly bias

I think I did address his points, go back and read through the thread again, it’s mad people quoting me in this thread and I’m trying to respond to everyone

I try and put my thoughts together before I respond.

 

[Kenny West]

You never heard of hood affairs or smack dvd or Jordan towers ? That’s where ain’t of his most classic videos and interview are from ..

They got smack out here. Idk about the other two mostly familair with the shyt we put out

How you going to mention dmv and Pitts only .. and act like Chicago, Detroit and Cleveland weren’t F’n with him. Matter of fact when he got black balled those were the towns that were really showing him love and kept him going.

Cause I aint been to detroit or cleveland in my life.

Had knew hoes in colombus and cincy during them days but they wasnt bumping no gucci just mainstream shyt but they women

I stand by what I said. 3rd tier regional artist *celebrated in select bamma hoods

The hood would buy five dollar mixtape or stream off datpiff and other mixtape sites .. don’t play dumb now

How is this elevant lol. Nobody asked you where yall listen to mixtapes, datpiff and livemixtapes are a given.

I was talking about the claim that a dvd man in the midwest was out there selling atl street rap dvds back then. shyt isnt impossible just weird. shyts not close to yall nor was atl the music hub it is now. shyt is random when you think about it

All our stuff was either philly rap and the dipset era ny jawns

But thats wassup yall ohio dudes got as bad taste as pburgh.

 

[Gotright]

They got smack out here. Idk about the other two mostly familair with the shyt we put out




Cause I aint been to detroit or cleveland in my life.

Had knew hoes in colombus and cincy during them days but they wasnt bumping no gucci just mainstream shyt but they women

I stand by what I said. 3rd tier regional artist *celebrated in select bamma hoods





How is this elevant lol. Nobody asked you where yall listen to mixtapes, datpiff and livemixtapes are a given.

I was talking about the claim that a dvd man in the midwest was out there selling atl street rap dvds back then. shyt isnt impossible just weird. shyts not close to yall nor was atl the music hub it is now. shyt is random when you think about it

All our stuff was either philly rap and the dipset era ny jawns

But thats wassup yall ohio dudes got as bad taste as pburgh.

you ain’t never been to Detroit, Cleveland or any thing close to it to know what was going on in the hood. Shut yo lame ass up

 

[The Connoisseurs]

They got smack out here. Idk about the other two mostly familair with the shyt we put out




Cause I aint been to detroit or cleveland in my life.

Had knew hoes in colombus and cincy during them days but they wasnt bumping no gucci just mainstream shyt but they women

I stand by what I said. 3rd tier regional artist *celebrated in select bamma hoods





How is this elevant lol. Nobody asked you where yall listen to mixtapes, datpiff and livemixtapes are a given.

I was talking about the claim that a dvd man in the midwest was out there selling atl street rap dvds back then. shyt isnt impossible just weird. shyts not close to yall nor was atl the music hub it is now. shyt is random when you think about it

All our stuff was either philly rap and the dipset era ny jawns

But thats wassup yall ohio dudes got as bad taste as pburgh.

I know you’re a drake fan so check the date he’s bumping this song photoshoot which came out in 08

 

[Born2BKing]

So icey is a zaytoven production .. Gucci label is even called so icey awhatyachatbout


How could you think it’s your record and then say you ain’t get paid for your appearance which one is it ?

I clearly remember in 2005 on bet when they asked Cassidy who he bumping he said that real street rap and said Gucci mane and Jeezy.

There’s a reason why the streets gravitated towards Gucci because he was spitting facts they can relate too that only a actual street rapper could rap about ..” you can’t make it up”.

...Cooking dope with a clothing hanger .. j’s smoking out of coke cans , and cleaning your rims for dollars.

By 08 Gucci had more listeners than Jeezy .. even DJ drama had to jump on the wave ..

You need to get out the house more if you really believe any of the shyt you saying.