Working full time and going to school unappreciation

[The 2020 New Member]

I don't think people think of the end game though.

Like, you go to high school.
Then you go to college. But why?
You can't possibly know what you want to do because all high schools spend time on is getting you ready to pass the state exam -- or else the school gets on the government shyt list and might not get proper funding.

So you go to college, racking up thousands of dollars in debt as you try to figure out what you want to do with your life.

And then you work.
For 40 years until retirement, spending decades in some job paying the price for trying to learn what you want to do and who you want to be. Paying for a glorified party for your spouse and family and friends. Paying for a house that doesn't even get passed down to your children to secure their futures. Lest there be some heavy taxes.

Maybe you are lucky enough to retire with a decent nest egg at 65. At which point you'll die in 7 years anyway (isn't average life span like 72?)

And it continues for the next generation.



I mean someone tell me where I'm wrong here.

you're not wrong, but you are cynical. the problem is not college, the problem is that everybody feels the need to go for money/status, instead of education. pero c'est la vie, breh. i said above that i'm 25 and i'm just now starting school because i want to be a business owner, (still undecided) a lawyer, and eventually the president of the united states.

tbh, why shouldn't they "scam" people into a large debt? it's not like they're taking advantage of people's innocence, they are preying on their greed. seems like fair game. now if you want to talk about how they are processing payments that were made on time late, just to rack up fees on an already staggering debt, well...

 

[The 2020 New Member]

Dam shame my epic thread keep getting buried, but similar threads keep popping up...

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/amer...s-what-the-newrules-need-to-be-add-on.173456/



Educate yourself brotha .... (fukk school)

there's a lot of idealism in that thread but

 

[Remote]

you're not wrong, but you are cynical. the problem is not college, the problem is that everybody feels the need to go for money/status, instead of education. pero c'est la vie, breh. i said above that i'm 25 and i'm just now starting school because i want to be a business owner, (still undecided) a lawyer, and eventually the president of the united states.

tbh, why shouldn't they "scam" people into a large debt? it's not like they're taking advantage of people's innocence, they are preying on their greed. seems like fair game. now if you want to talk about how they are processing payments that were made on time late, just to rack up fees on an already staggering debt, well...

Can you be cynical if it's the truth?

Not that I have a problem with anyone throwing that label on me.
I think college has a purpose depending on what your goal is and how you perceive education.

If a person perceives education as a necessary medium to bring them wealth, or to get them to a certain career, then so be it.

If a person perceives education as a way to gain knowledge and truth, well then they're going to view college a bit differently. Philosophical though that may sound.

I mean, look...

There are people who go to college and get into careers that they love and enjoy. Those are lucky people.

Most people simply go to school because they are told it is necessary in order to get a job....in order to earn a living. I mean think about that. A large amount of people are going to school for no other reason than not going could mean the difference between surviving and not surviving.

I mean, that really has to change someone's view on the educational system.

But maybe I'm just taking this idea a bit too far.

 

[Scientific Playa]

College is a scam. People from previous generations never had to go to school full time on top of working full time to pay their bills. College tuition is scamming people.

I've seen a few stories on that viewpoint. most of my family take advantage of community and state schools. eff all that debt slavery.

Dear Class of ’13: You’ve been scammed
Commentary: How the College-Industrial Complex drove tuition so high
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dear-class-of-13-youve-been-scammed-2013-05-17


35 Shocking Facts That Prove That College Education Has Become A Giant Money Making Scam

http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...ducation-has-become-a-giant-money-making-scam
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/05/29-shocking-facts-that-prove-that.html

 

[The 2020 New Member]

Can you be cynical if it's the truth?

Not that I have a problem with anyone throwing that label on me.
I think college has a purpose depending on what your goal is and how you perceive education.

If a person perceives education as a necessary medium to bring them wealth, or to get them to a certain career, then so be it.

If a person perceives education as a way to gain knowledge and truth, well then they're going to view college a bit differently. Philosophical though that may sound.

I mean, look...

There are people who go to college and get into careers that they love and enjoy. Those are lucky people.

Most people simply go to school because they are told it is necessary in order to get a job....in order to earn a living. I mean think about that. A large amount of people are going to school for no other reason than not going could mean the difference between surviving and not surviving.

I mean, that really has to change someone's view on the educational system.

But maybe I'm just taking this idea a bit too far.

you're not wrong...but who's fault is it really if people go to college just to pass the time? they should go when they're ready if they are just going to graduate and be broke anyway. it's not the education systems fault that people lack direction and the gumption to hack it as a poor person until they figure it out. i'm just saying that the higher education system is not inherently evil, it's the fault lies with the people that flock to it in masses instead of collectively working towards a viable alternative.

on top of that, it's worth it if you educate yourself. to me, that's the overall idea of going to a university.

 

[really]

there's a lot of idealism in that thread but

Honestly, I was gonna get super deep on him in addressing his issues... but I'm warn the fukk out from typing.


Check out my post in this thread for some inspiration thread starter if you need it:

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/anybody-else-getting-desperate-and-bitter.173358/page-2

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

i was working full time and going to school full time and i had studio classes...twice as long but the same credit.

one year i had three studio classes and i was working full time...and partying my ass off...shyt was crazy.

 

[Rawtid]

This is why people need to form relationships with one another. 2 incomes are better than one. Providing you both have debt in close relation to your income, you could pay off the debt relatively quickly.I have a friend that has 6 figures worth of debt but he also makes 6 figures. His income combined with another decent income could yield enough money for them as a couple to clean their debt up pretty quickly.

I think the majority of people just make bad financial decisions in search of the "American Dream". Save up for a simple wedding $5-7k or court house, rent an apartment while they pay off debt. It's just not wise to get a new home or even a new car while in debt.There is nothing wrong with getting an education but I think people just need to plan better for it. You don't have to take on debt in order to get a degree and I think those who do are often just too impatient or disciplined to save.

 

[Remote]

This is why people need to form relationships with one another. 2 incomes are better than one. Providing you both have debt in close relation to your income, you could pay off the debt relatively quickly.I have a friend that has 6 figures worth of debt but he also makes 6 figures. His income combined with another decent income could yield enough money for them as a couple to clean their debt up pretty quickly.

I think the majority of people just make bad financial decisions in search of the "American Dream". Save up for a simple wedding $5-7k or court house, rent an apartment while they pay off debt. It's just not wise to get a new home or even a new car while in debt.There is nothing wrong with getting an education but I think people just need to plan better for it. You don't have to take on debt in order to get a degree and I think those who do are often just too impatient or disciplined to save.

You single? I need to team up with a fine woman so I can save my money for this Vitamix I saw on Amazon today.

 

[Ciggavelli]

Honestly, I was gonna get super deep on him in addressing his issues... but I'm warn the fukk out from typing.


Check out my post in this thread for some inspiration thread starter if you need it:

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/anybody-else-getting-desperate-and-bitter.173358/page-2

But what if you don't know what makes you happy?

 

[Ciggavelli]

i was working full time and going to school full time and i had studio classes...twice as long but the same credit.

one year i had three studio classes and i was working full time...and partying my ass off...shyt was crazy.

I've never heard of studio classes before. Are they half a semester long, due to them being twice as long?

 

[Rawtid]

You single? I need to team up with a fine woman so I can save my money for this Vitamix I saw on Amazon today.

I'm not fine. If you need to team up with someone in order to purchase a vitamix, I don't think we would make a good pairing anyway. The things I need someone to go half on cost way more than $400.

I got plans
power movements
get on some rule shyt
I keep living like this
I might lose it

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

I've never heard of studio classes before. Are they half a semester long, due to them being twice as long?

drawing, painting, photo....3 hour classes instead of hour and a half.

same credit hour credits though....it's fukked up.

 

[Remote]

I'm not fine. If you need to team up with someone in order to purchase a vitamix, I don't think we would make a good pairing anyway. The things I need someone to go half on cost way more than $400.

I got plans
power movements
get on some rule shyt
I keep living like this
I might lose it

I was being facetious, woman.

 

[really]

I don't think people think of the end game though.

Like, you go to high school.
Then you go to college. But why?
You can't possibly know what you want to do because all high schools spend time on is getting you ready to pass the state exam -- or else the school gets on the government shyt list and might not get proper funding.

So you go to college, racking up thousands of dollars in debt as you try to figure out what you want to do with your life.

And then you work.
For 40 years until retirement, spending decades in some job paying the price for trying to learn what you want to do and who you want to be. Paying for a glorified party for your spouse and family and friends. Paying for a house that doesn't even get passed down to your children to secure their futures. Lest there be some heavy taxes.

Maybe you are lucky enough to retire with a decent nest egg at 65. At which point you'll die in 7 years anyway (isn't average life span like 72?)

And it continues for the next generation.



I mean someone tell me where I'm wrong here.

You said all needs to be said nikka....


I swear to god it's sad to me people don't see the large picture.... they just don't get it....