Would it be fair to say Pop Smoke was more important to NYC rap than Big L?

More important to NYC rap?

  • Big L

    Votes: 28 35.4%
  • Pop Smoke

    Votes: 51 64.6%

  • Total voters
    79

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Revisionist shyt looms. Big L during his life had little impact on the mainstream. I was there. I bought the fukking "Put it on" cassingle. Outside of that song and BET playing the "MVP" remix video that was about it. Sure he had a major resurgence in popularity amongst the backpacker rap nerds during the Rawkus era but nothing on par with what Pop Smoke did in his short time on Earth. Pop Smoke was poised to basically bring NYC back from the dead.

Who gives a fukk about mainstream impact.

Big L destroyed Jay Z.

But it's about sales and numbers to those in the business and rap money connoisseurs.

Most of the replies in this thread are scary shyt.

You have so called rap fans giving Pop Smoke the upper hand because you know. Sales and views.

Big L toured Europe.

Did Pop Smoke do shows not counting Fashion events in France?

Pop was dope.

To me, nowhere NEAR as dope as Big L.

Alot of Fairweather Big L fans here. Y'all don't rep it right.

At least there are ppl who do, like Nas.
 

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this is why the Internet can't give real context to actual hip hop. pop smoke had his wave and was on his way to superstardom all true I wouldn't even compare them cause you can't 2 different come ups but the Big L disrespect is crazy. nerds confusing popularity with influence is expected because most people on here ain't really from this culture, still crazy especially with all the dikk licking during Jay -z career as he literally stole big L whole flow but most y'all nikkas was so late and behind on reasonable doubt y'all missed it. history is wrong and re-written incorrectly constantly on here.

Very well said, thank you!
 

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this is why the Internet can't give real context to actual hip hop. pop smoke had his wave and was on his way to superstardom all true I wouldn't even compare them cause you can't 2 different come ups but the Big L disrespect is crazy. nerds confusing popularity with influence is expected because most people on here ain't really from this culture, still crazy especially with all the dikk licking during Jay -z career as he literally stole big L whole flow but most y'all nikkas was so late and behind on reasonable doubt y'all missed it. history is wrong and re-written incorrectly constantly on here.
a big l fan calling people nerds is hilarious
 

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Here we go with this bullshyt. Like my night can't be "lit" without some generic mumble mouth NY "drill"...that shyt was painful to even type.

He was wack and he spawned even worse imitators, period. That said I'm having a great night lol , and it's only Monday.

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Like are you married have kids a good social life like what kind of nikka are you. Like where your people from. Yeah music sets a mood bruh. I don't understand nikkas like you cats must be on the spectrum. I can't relate to folks like you man you seem like a miserable super serious dude who obviously isn't black. Weird old mutant ass nikka
 

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Like are you married have kids a good social life like what kind of nikka are you. Like where your people from. Yeah music sets a mood bruh. I don't understand nikkas like you cats must be on the spectrum. I can't relate to folks like you man you seem like a miserable super serious dude who obviously isn't black. Weird old mutant ass nikka

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Love L, but Big L died as an underground rapper, Pop Smoke died as a star. Death elevated both of them, but Pop Smoke's trajectory was already set.


People will get mad but yes he was definitely more influential.

Big L you could argue had some influence on the late 90s/early 00s mixtape scene but Pop was a legit star.


Yall use the word "star" very loosely. He had the New York stimulus which causes some of yall to believe he was hot like that everywhere. They both were local sensations. Big L was far less of a local sensation because New York actually had real stars back then and were less desperate for anyone to pop,no pun intended.

Id actually say outside of New York,Big L got the much better posthumus rub if we keep it a buck. I remember people being put on to him after he died and legitimately becoming fans.


Not sure how you dismiss big Ls influence on punchline rap. I dont even know how much influence he actually had. But i know to many outsiders he was one of the gateways into punchline rap. And when you heard the term "punchline rap" he was considered one of the pioneers. His posthumus star rose more than Pops did which should kill this argument.

It was a phony movement built on hope. Which is why when he died,there wasnt much mourning. It was moreso "Okay,he dead so who else can we put out front to keep this thang rolling and bring New York back:why:?"

Big L was discovered posthumusly,but for the fans who found him it was more authentic than many of Pops fans:respect:
 
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