Y'all hear this FOOL Scottie Pippen saying DT 1 would beat this team by at least 25?

[Kings County]

never got help from the refs on BOTH sides of the ball.
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well didnt refs win kobe a championship them nikkas was bout to get eliminated stern made that phone call like "kings dont leave this building alive"

 

[jadillac]

i went to numerous games features MJ's bulls, ive seen numerous battles between him and 'nique and i grew up on 80s/90s bball , so that part of your comments is incorrect

now for the other part, i was not impressed at all with the DR game, other than KD, the rest of the team wasn't impressive - how about let's see how they do in the olympics, see if they can even beat spain and then compare them to the best team to ever walk the planet

Ok, but where ur argument fails is, you're FORGETTING those international teams in the early 90's were absolute TRASH. Beyond trash.

Yeah, they had a few marginal guys in the league like Seikley or a few others, but for the most part, organized bball was awful back then. They started catching up in the late 90's.

2012 team blowing teams out by 50 >>>> Dream Team 1 blowing teams out by 65

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

ive seen you post a bit on basketball and normally i agree with what you're saying, you seem to know your shyt for the most part. but do you seriously think this?

this team would get abused by the C and PFs on the 92 team not to mention who is guarding magic? who is guarding jordan? an old kobe? really? no.. whoever lanky ass pippen is on, is getting shut down, so probably durant or lebron -

sure im an old head and its a bit of that "back in my day we walked 2 miles in the snow to get to school" but straight up, no team is ever fukking with that '92 team - you aren't just talking about legends, you're talking about legends in their prime

the ONLY players id say in their prime that make a shyt of a difference on this team are cp3 and lebron, westbrook/KD/etc are no where near their prime, they have lots of room to improve/grow

that team had prime ewing, drob, MJ, barkley, pippen, etc etc etc etc

and i see how you guys discount stockton a lot through some of these threads, apparently ppl never watched ole boy play, he would be eating lunch and pickin' rocks left and right, dont sleep on stockton

im sorry but i watched that team play and i watched all of them grow up in their primes and that was just the perfect team assembled coached by the perfect coach, no one is fukking with that team, ever

I agree that they lack bigs but there's a reason for that. The way FIBA is played, post play isn't a big part of it. The lane widens near the basket so dominant post players have a harder time establishing position so far from the hoop.

That was taken into account when building this team. The US has learned over the years how to better compete in international play and their rosters show that. If they were trying to compete against the 92 squad then you'd see Bynum at least (Howard is hurt) on the squad. But Bynum is pretty much useless in FIBA. He can't post up 12 feet from the basket and he can't play post defense if no opponent is posting. So why add bigs to the roster?

I can't see a team with Kobe, LeBron and Durant getting abused by anyone. I think they would hold their own.

If the ODT was so great they wouldn't have lost to those kids, regardless of why they lost. If a team of college kids can catch them slipping then this team could hand them a beat down if they're slipping. So that, to me, means if both teams were focused we'd have a pretty competitive game.



But the comparison is silly to me because the 2012 team wasn't built to compete against the 92 team or I'm sure they'd have picked some different guys. 92 was a collection of the best players available at the time sans Isaiah. The 2012 squad was picked totally differently and it certainly wasn't picked with the 92 team in mind.

 

[Jesus]

92 Dream Team would win...any other answers and you're a straight fakkit.

 

[aixenv]

Ok, but where ur argument fails is, you're FORGETTING those international teams in the early 90's were absolute TRASH. Beyond trash.

Yeah, they had a few marginal guys in the league like Seikley or a few others, but for the most part, organized bball was awful back then. They started catching up in the late 90's.

2012 team blowing teams out by 50 >>>> Dream Team 1 blowing teams out by 65

ok right i still don't disagree with this at all, i completely agree those teams didn't even deserve to be on the same court, hell the '92 team is what made foreigners (admitted by dirk and others), start to have a big interest in bball

and maybe maybe maybe its a bit hasty to say easily by 25, but really we're comparing legends in their prime, to a team with some youngsters no where near their prime, a prime LBJ, a few players who will never be considered legends, and 17 NBA year havin' bean da gawd and we're seriously saying they stand a chance?

how about this, ill spot you guys they might not win by 25, BUT, if they played a best of 7, the 2012 would be lucky to win 1 game

have you guys forgot MJ's competitive drive? he's 6-0 in finals for a reason, then you got magic, sure he's older but he still had some magic left in him at that time, and then Drob and Ewing are FEASTING on poor tyson and any other bigs on this team. and mailman and barkley are destroying fatass melo and anyone else at that position, ill grant you LBJ is gonna get his, but that's 1 man against a team of legends in their prime

 

[aixenv]

I agree that they lack bigs but there's a reason for that. The way FIBA is played, post play isn't a big part of it. The lane widens near the basket so dominant post players have a harder time establishing position so far from the hoop.

That was taken into account when building this team. The US has learned over the years how to better compete in international play and their rosters show that. If they were trying to compete against the 92 squad then you'd see Bynum at least (Howard is hurt) on the squad. But Bynum is pretty much useless in FIBA. He can't post up 12 feet from the basket and he can't play post defense if no opponent is posting. So why add bigs to the roster?

I can't see a team with Kobe, LeBron and Durant getting abused by anyone. I think they would hold their own.

If the ODT was so great they wouldn't have lost to those kids, regardless of why they lost. If a team of college kids can catch them slipping then this team could hand them a beat down if they're slipping. So that, to me, means if both teams were focused we'd have a pretty competitive game.



But the comparison is silly to me because the 2012 team wasn't built to compete against the 92 team or I'm sure they'd have picked some different guys. 92 was a collection of the best players available at the time sans Isaiah. The 2012 squad was picked totally differently and it certainly wasn't picked with the 92 team in mind.

i agree with most of that, and yes i completely agree FIBA =! NBA

and i do agree if they were cocky/arrogant they could be beaten, which has been proven, but if they had that eye of the tiger,, then.. yea.. shyts over for 2012

now if you had a

1) prime kidd/nash ( i know nash isnt american, humor me)
2) prime kobe
3) prime durant
4) prime LBJ
5) prime dhoward

with a good bench, then yes i'd give you the fact those games would be HELLA close, and that team could conceivabley beat the '92 team, bird and magic were on their last leg, so they were more there just to get the congrats on a great career

now take:

1) prime magic
2) prime MJ
3) prime pippen/bird
4) prime barkley
5) prime drob

and you got yourself another helluva competition, but id still give the nod to the MJ team, it could go 6 games on a best of 7.. though

 

[Majestic Pape]

Actually, I give you KD and CP3... Other than that, I can't fukks w/ it...

LeBron just took over three playoff series in a row... one of them against KD.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

i agree with most of that, and yes i completely agree FIBA =! NBA

and i do agree if they were cocky/arrogant they could be beaten, which has been proven, but if they had that eye of the tiger,, then.. yea.. shyts over for 2012

now if you had a

1) prime kidd/nash ( i know nash isnt american, humor me)
2) prime kobe
3) prime durant
4) prime LBJ
5) prime dhoward

with a good bench, then yes i'd give you the fact those games would be HELLA close, and that team could conceivabley beat the '92 team, bird and magic were on their last leg, so they were more there just to get the congrats on a great career

now take:

1) prime magic
2) prime MJ
3) prime pippen/bird
4) prime barkley
5) prime drob

and you got yourself another helluva competition, but id still give the nod to the MJ team, it could go 6 games on a best of 7.. though

Meh, it's all subjective. We'll never see such a game so no one will never know for sure. I can't believe the 92 squad would win 100% of the time and as long as that's the case, the subject is open for debate.

 

[aixenv]

Meh, it's all subjective. We'll never see such a game so no one will never know for sure. I can't believe the 92 squad would win 100% of the time and as long as that's the case, the subject is open for debate.

i think we can both agree we'd buy tickets for such an event

no one is debating it wouldn't be hella exciting

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

i think we can both agree we'd buy tickets for such an event

no one is debating it wouldn't be hella exciting

If it's worth debating then that means both sides have valid points.

Now 2012 Bobcats vs 96 Bulls? That wouldn't even warrant a response.

 

[charknicks]

Ron Harper did a radio interview yesterday and said DT 1 would beat the '12 Olympic Team by at least 15 pts. each game.

It's one game I would like to see. I would want this years team to have D. Howard and D. Wade on it as well though.

 

[verbaltelekinesis]

I said it in the game thread...

No team with Bean, KD, and Lebron on it is losing by 25! That shyt is just not happening.

 

[rapbeats]

25 points might be reaching but the Dream Team would still roll these chumps by double digits though.

^^THIS.

lets go over the obvious matchups.

old magic or not. is DESTROYING any midget PG in the post. LIGHT WORK. proof look at his 91 numbers and then look at his 95 numbers. he was still very effective and in 95 he was playing PF and not pg. the guy was working over REAL pf's in the post.

he would destroy westbrook, cp3, etc in the post. that would get them into froul trouble. they would have to double. and once they did. magic the passer would come out. game over. if they put lebron on him. thats fine. lebron isnt a good post defender vs someone his height that actually has low post ability and foot work like magic. so LBJ would be in foul trouble.

barkley use to be bothered by elden campbell. but elden was a bigger stronger guy then KG. KG is strong but he aint that strong. he's a thin wirey guy thats athletic. but barkley would back that skinny fool in like a chump. up fake. ANd 1. basket. people forget how high Bark could jump back then.

2. who's guarding karl malone? not K.love. LOL> but yet malone could easily shut him down.

i wont even get into chandler getting abuse by pat ewing and Drob. lol at those dudes having a chance.

durant is a two trick pony. he needs a pick to get loose for his jumpers, so does westbrook. he has to be on the break after you have thrown a ball completely away or took a bad long range jump shot. so he can run. same as westbrook. these guys dont have a great game in the halfcourt. the only reason you think these guys are so good is because they are playing in an era that made rules so they could look better then they are. you cant touch kd, lbj, westbrook, etc. now kobe is allowed to be touched and manhandled on the perimeter like its 1995. but the rest of these youngins are soft. they dont want any pats of that 92 team putting an armbar in their rib cage all game long. the 92 team was so much more intelligent. they wouldnt throw the ball away or take bad long range shots. this means no running. no running = half of LBJ's, KD's, westbrooks game.

 

[rapbeats]

I said it in the game thread...

No team with Bean, KD, and Lebron on it is losing by 25! That shyt is just not happening.

yall all know i'll tell you in a heart beat, bean = mj 2.0 but with that said. lol at them not getting spanked. with an old man bean with like 2 working fingers. we're talking the greatest roster of all time on that 92 team.. come on now

 

[Lakerman0834]

Ron Harper did a radio interview yesterday and said DT 1 would beat the '12 Olympic Team by at least 15 pts. each game.

It's one game I would like to see. I would want this years team to have D. Howard and D. Wade on it as well though.

applaud the man for going on air with his stuttering problems