You ever wonder why NYC never got behind ASAP they way they do these new mediocre acts?

[Murkman]

It wasn't an organic thing. Young MA and Bobby had songs that had the streets on fire.

He didn't have any major hits and he didn't sound "New York"

his 1st major hit was fukkin Problems, but that song had Chainz, Kendrick AND Drake so it didn't seem like a Rocky song

he still to this day doesn't have a solo hit unlike MA and Desiigner

"Pesos"? "Lord Pretty Flocko Jodye 2"? "L$D"?

If it counts, "Long Live A$AP" as a song did break into Billboard Top 20. So given that, he does have solo hits, they just aren't in hundred millions of streams.

 

[Murkman]

You don't though.... You put ASAP over Big L and Mase as Harlemites
and laud yourself as this esteemed critic when you are just in essence a Rocky fan

You're the same buffoon who said Asap had the best album of 2015....

I like Rocky but without Yams and Clams Casino ... he's not good at all

And no amount of effeminate ignoring or critical theory tactics will change that.

Now run along before you accuse everyone of stalking you ....

I get the differences between him and L (Rocky is more obviously influenced by the 00's than 90's), but you really compared him and Mase as if they don't have ANYTHING in common as far as Mainstream appeal goes?

It's not like Hip-Hop Heads went to Mase for bars and concepts like L, or storytelling and bangers like Cam. shyt, the beat to "Multiply" sounds like a modern version of something Mase would've hopped on back then.

If you remember Mase on "Harlem World" didn't just have East Coast producers either.
Yam$ was the co-founder and Clams is just one producer that made fire for him. Logically, how does one producer make Rocky "not good at all", when he rapped over many better beats than Casino's?

I don't stan that nikka either (he's a great artist but has no classics to me), but low-key you nikkas sound like you hating just because he isn't some low level, basic everyday New York rapper.

He comes from Cam's cloth of crude and insensitive humor, and the tendency to be on all the lastest fashion trends.

For example on "Max B", you nikkas don't hear the Dipset influence besides him paying homage? The way he rhymes too in a technical sense in general comes from that style. Rocky is one of the illest emcees that are expert rhymers in schemes and flows right now. Sometimes, you guys underestimate his style and overlook the shyt besides the Texas stuff that makes him a true NY rapper in essence.

Considering who is running the NS, he is easily Top 5: Cole is lightskin, Kendrick is mostly for West Coast dikkriders who never heard of my region before, KRIT runs all facets of the South, and Drake is a Hip-Hop Bieber (process that thought for a second).

He is way more consistent than Cole, more skilled and lyrical than Drake, music bumps more than Kendrick, is as exciting as KRIT is.
He has is own aura too, which makes him standout in charisma and style.

Sure he isn't 100% typical NY, but name one who hasn't sold out or tried new things.

 

[DonRe]

Problem with asap is that he started moving to the white hipster crowd and that shyt is fading. Plus to have true support from
NYC you need the black and brown support.

I was on asap early too before purple swag

 

[CapitalforCapital]

Who tf cares I'm sure he's not thinking bout this bullshyt, he's on.

 

[Murkman]

Problem with asap is that he started moving to the white hipster crowd and that shyt is fading. Plus to have true support from
NYC you need the black and brown support.

I was on asap early too before purple swag

You need Latinos to be stamped official as a NY Rap artist in the streets?

Is him being from Harlem not enough?

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

Like other posters have said, he didn't have that NY sound that people like Young MA & Dave East have. Plus he was part of that whole "hipster" wave. Real ninjas from the projects weren't rocking with that.

 

[riddlerap]

no i didnt wonder. he is a fakkit who doesnt claim NY.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

I get the differences between him and L (Rocky is more obviously influenced by the 00's than 90's), but you really compared him and Mase as if they don't have ANYTHING in common as far as Mainstream appeal goes?

It's not like Hip-Hop Heads went to Mase for bars and concepts like L, or storytelling and bangers like Cam. shyt, the beat to "Multiply" sounds like a modern version of something Mase would've hopped on back then.

If you remember Mase on "Harlem World" didn't just have East Coast producers either.
Yam$ was the co-founder and Clams is just one producer that made fire for him. Logically, how does one producer make Rocky "not good at all", when he rapped over many better beats than Casino's?

I don't stan that nikka either (he's a great artist but has no classics to me), but low-key you nikkas sound like you hating just because he isn't some low level, basic everyday New York rapper.

He comes from Cam's cloth of crude and insensitive humor, and the tendency to be on all the lastest fashion trends.

For example on "Max B", you nikkas don't hear the Dipset influence besides him paying homage? The way he rhymes too in a technical sense in general comes from that style. Rocky is one of the illest emcees that are expert rhymers in schemes and flows right now. Sometimes, you guys underestimate his style and overlook the shyt besides the Texas stuff that makes him a true NY rapper in essence.

Considering who is running the NS, he is easily Top 5: Cole is lightskin, Kendrick is mostly for West Coast dikkriders who never heard of my region before, KRIT runs all facets of the South, and Drake is a Hip-Hop Bieber (process that thought for a second).

He is way more consistent than Cole, more skilled and lyrical than Drake, music bumps more than Kendrick, is as exciting as KRIT is.
He has is own aura too, which makes him standout in charisma and style.

Sure he isn't 100% typical NY, but name one who hasn't sold out or tried new things.

Cole call to fame is him being lightskin? U so out of touch

He's not more skilled or lyrical than drake at all

He doesn't have music close to Kendrick, he also needed drake and Kendrick to jump start his mainstream career.

Krit doesn't run shyt in the south, literally nobody listens to homie his music is cool, but not nothin I would exciting

 

[SpacelySprockets]

Rocky and Ferg get love in NJ, the group didnt work as a movement because the 2nd wave was weak. Twelvy isnt bad, but he doesnt stand out much to me. dont like Nast, and they phased Ty Beats out really early on when he was beastin on the production. it stayed being 99% about Rocky and Ferg

them phasing out ty beats was stupid as fukk, dudes production was top notch, he mustve really gotten blackballed something serious

this shyt had me thinking nast had next and nothing came out of it but the group album getting indefinitely shelved

 

[Juven]

miss ny rap

can i live black rob - YouTube

 

[Sindicated]

Asap rocky came out of nowhere and was championed by cac hipster publications and catapulted to stardom, no grassroots anything, he just became a star overnight..

Even with that considered, most young people in ny embraced asap.. it was a few older people that said he sounded like he was from the south but they were the vast minority. Everybody isnt going to like something, thats life. Instead of accepting that u rocky stans have held onto the fact that a few nikkas didnt like him and blame NY as a whole for rocky not becoming a huge platinum selling rapper when the reality is he has no one to blame but himself for rocking dresses and regressing musically.

A Boogie and Don Q are the ones that most young people are fukking with now and its strictly about the music, no one cares if they were in a gang or did any dirt, good music is good music. Theyre being embraced just like Rocky was, and the ball is in their hands for them to either carry it or drop it like Rocky did

EDIT: Wrong Post

 

[SirBiatch]

I get the differences between him and L (Rocky is more obviously influenced by the 00's than 90's), but you really compared him and Mase as if they don't have ANYTHING in common as far as Mainstream appeal goes?

It's not like Hip-Hop Heads went to Mase for bars and concepts like L, or storytelling and bangers like Cam. shyt, the beat to "Multiply" sounds like a modern version of something Mase would've hopped on back then.

If you remember Mase on "Harlem World" didn't just have East Coast producers either.
Yam$ was the co-founder and Clams is just one producer that made fire for him. Logically, how does one producer make Rocky "not good at all", when he rapped over many better beats than Casino's?

I don't stan that nikka either (he's a great artist but has no classics to me), but low-key you nikkas sound like you hating just because he isn't some low level, basic everyday New York rapper.

He comes from Cam's cloth of crude and insensitive humor, and the tendency to be on all the lastest fashion trends.

For example on "Max B", you nikkas don't hear the Dipset influence besides him paying homage? The way he rhymes too in a technical sense in general comes from that style. Rocky is one of the illest emcees that are expert rhymers in schemes and flows right now. Sometimes, you guys underestimate his style and overlook the shyt besides the Texas stuff that makes him a true NY rapper in essence.

Considering who is running the NS, he is easily Top 5: Cole is lightskin, Kendrick is mostly for West Coast dikkriders who never heard of my region before, KRIT runs all facets of the South, and Drake is a Hip-Hop Bieber (process that thought for a second).

He is way more consistent than Cole, more skilled and lyrical than Drake, music bumps more than Kendrick, is as exciting as KRIT is.
He has is own aura too, which makes him standout in charisma and style.

Sure he isn't 100% typical NY, but name one who hasn't sold out or tried new things.

I disagree with this. as far as lines go and coherence throughout an entire song, Drake wins over Rocky.

Everything else, Rocky destroys the competition. Especially in beats and vocal delivery

 

[vampire xtc]

i see a lot of replies about rocky goin the hipster route etc...


but on the real if he would have strayed focused and active

he could have easily been what travis scott is today

most die hard travis fans are hipsters and internet swag boys etc..

ever seen the crowd at his shows? lol

 

[Sindicated]

I got fam in Europe and they jumped on Rocky wave quick, Live Love Asap bounced Rocky into a worldwide star.
shyt just kinda fizzled out, Ferg came through with Trap Lord but after that shyt has been
They never got the compilation album out when they was hot, Rocky been lacking, Ferg second album was ass juice, Yams dying.
It's over for the ASAP crew, Twelvyy or Nast ain't gonna even smell Joey Badass numbers.

No offense but alot of yall or showing your Last year was a HUGE year for the ASAP crew Ferg had the hottest song for the first few months of the year and his Track was the song of the NBA Playoffs.Then they dropped Yamborghini High which got mad love then they just released the COZY tapes and ASAP gets alot of love overseas and Rocky is branching out and connecting with grime artist. The truth of the matter is ALOT of yall are not connected to the streets the way you think you are and ALOT of yall really dont know whats poppin with the youth just because somethings not hot in your city dont mean its not hot anywhere else. And just like something might be hot in your city dont mean its hot everywhere else A.Boogie anyone

 

[Bobby Lashleys eyebrows]

He's still one of my favorite young NY artist along with Joey Badass and Dave East. I don't know what you're talking about.