Young Bucks Say Wrestlers Need To Stop "Being Marks" For WWE And Signing For Low Figures

[El Guapo]

On the WM pre-show

Getting tossed over the top rope in the Andre Battle Royal

"I got my WrestleMania moment"

 

[SpacelySprockets]

theres literally not a wrong way to go about this

u can be like the young bucks and not immediately sign with the wwe because you want to make a big enough name on the indy scene to gain bargaining power when negotiating your contract, which might I add is a big risk and a big bet on yourself because of various possibilities that may go wrong and lead to wwe never knocking on your door again, but if it goes right it certainly pays off

or u can jump at the first thing wwe offers u and sign a not so lucrative deal in the present moment with room for huge growth in the future thus eventually making way more than you wouldve had you stayed in the indys, different strokes for different folks(pause), everybody cant be as big of an indy sensation as the young bucks and hold off signing for years upon years

 

[Bryan Danielson]

theres literally not a wrong way to go about this

u can be like the young bucks and not immediately sign with the wwe because you want to make a big enough name on the indy scene to gain bargaining power when negotiating your contract

or u can jump at the first thing wwe offers u and sign a not so lucrative deal in the present moment with room for huge growth in the future thus eventually making way more than you wouldve had you stayed in the indys, different strokes for different folks(pause), everybody cant be as big of an indy sensation as the young bucks and hold off signing for years upon years

I agree and everyone aint gonna make it big in the E either on a Reigns/Cena level.

In this day in time we really gotta stop pretending that if someone makes it to say Curt Hawkins status or buddy that is now singing, thats a success. In some cases going to the E actually hurts some talent where it takes them YEARS to rebuild their marketability to make money.

Yes if AJ and KO were cut today.... everyone knows them and they could go anywhere and be major attractions.

But if Hideo Itami or Apollo Crews goes somewhere, they would lower midcard a show and couldnt demand big money.

Martha

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

You can't just assume there's light at the end of the tunnel either. Many of these guys will not make enough to retire comfortably just off their WWE salary alone. Many won't go higher than NXT or if they make the main roster will fizzle out quickly or never have a sustained push.

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

We dont know how many people have signed their deal on the first offer.

Nor do we know what anyone is exactly making.

And like with any job sometimes you need a change of scenery.

 

[MenacingMonk]

I fukks with YBs, but this quote has me

You don't know people's mindset. They may want stability. Maybe they're tired of Indy bookings and wanna settle for better pay with a bigger spotlight to advance.

Plus not every guy can be the next big Indy "darling." And these cats that have been floating around the scene for a decade plus probably aren't gonna better themselves than they already are.

 

[The Eliminator]

They're smart
They make good money and wrestle less than they would in the 'E
The guys from the CWC and the UK tournament tho

 

[WMG the 2nd]

• Steen
• Generico
• Cole
• The hardys
• Kyle oreily
• Bobby fish
• Roderick strong
• Tammaso Ciammpa
• Michael bennett
• Aj styles
• Prince devitt
• Luke gallows
• Karl anderson
• Chris hero
• Samoa joe

They like:

• The young bucks

They like:

How many of these talented names were on smackdown or raw twice in a row this month?

 

[Bryan Danielson]

You can't just assume there's light at the end of the tunnel either. Many of these guys will not make enough to retire comfortably just off their WWE salary alone. Many won't go higher than NXT or if they make the main roster will fizzle out quickly or never have a sustained push.

I bet cats dont wanna discuss that Bull Dempsey guy.... wasnt he kinda getting some shine in NXT? Whatever happened to him?

I remember all the hype when it was announced Uhaa Nation was coming to NXT and effectively the WWE. People were soooooo happy and the thought was he was gonna be the next great black wrestler in the E since Lashley. Then he went to the Main Roster and became an after thought

How many of these talented names were on smackdown or raw twice in a row this month?

Like 3

Martha

 

[WMG the 2nd]

I bet cats dont wanna discuss that Bull Dempsey guy.... wasnt he kinda getting some shine in NXT? Whatever happened to him?

I remember all the hype when it was announced Uhaa Nation was coming to NXT and effectively the WWE. People were soooooo happy and the thought was he was gonna be the next great black wrestler in the E since Lashley. Then he went to the Main Roster and became an after thought

Martha

And it's not like they don't have basically four brands
Nxt
Smackdown
Raw
205
Plus ppvs

Yet they have an abundance of talent and few of any are draws. Potentially endless great match ups and indie/homegrown talent out the ass yet they still don't have enough time. Nearly 8 or so hours weekly of time for talent and they still don't have enough time for talent

 

[Bryan Danielson]

And it's not like they don't have basically four brands
Nxt
Smackdown
Raw
205
Plus ppvs

Yet they have an abundance of talent and few of any are draws. Potentially endless great match ups and indie/homegrown talent out the ass yet they still don't have enough time. Nearly 8 or so hours weekly of time for talent and they still don't have enough time for talent

Plus even when they do give them time.... they dont do anything creative for them.

Like how they do tag teams its an embarrassment and old.

Like its wack how they start a feud, then have them tag in a match then the following week they tag against even other again but add a 3rd person so its a 3 team tag, the the next week they face off but in singles with one guy with the other, then the following week the other guys wrestles a single, then finally they get a ppv match. Then they following week they have another tag team match against each other. Then the next week they do the thing were one wrestles in a jobber match to squash someone while the other is on commentary duty. Then the next week switch. Then a 4 man tag team against each other, then a week where on the same show both teams face each other in singles. Then ultimately a gimmick tag match.

Just no creativity

Martha

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Plus even when they do give them time.... they dont do anything creative for them.

Like how they do tag teams its an embarrassment and old.

Like its wack how they start a feud, then have them tag in a match then the following week they tag against even other again but add a 3rd person so its a 3 team tag, the the next week they face off but in singles with one guy with the other, then the following week the other guys wrestles a single, then finally they get a ppv match. Then they following week they have another tag team match against each other. Then the next week they do the thing were one wrestles in a jobber match to squash someone while the other is on commentary duty. Then the next week switch. Then a 4 man tag team against each other, then a week where on the same show both teams face each other in singles. Then ultimately a gimmick tag match.

Just no creativity

Martha

And this is pathetic. The WWE is the team that goes 14-2 every year with a first round bye, only to lose right after. All the talent and resources in the world, and they can't get out of their own way. But they'll spam advertising as if they're not hurting are anything at all.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

And this is pathetic. The WWE is the team that goes 14-2 every year with a first round bye, only to lose right after. All the talent and resources in the world, and they can't get out of their own way. But they'll spam advertising as if they're not hurting are anything at all.

Like you would think wouldve taken some the stuff that was successful in other places and showcased it here on their stage. Like I get they want to do their own thing. But and maybe they want to save it for a bigger stage (fairly giving them benefit of the doubt but we know its not in the cards). But they at their hottest moment shouldve introduced Bullet Club (The Club) to the E, they shouldve had DB and Punk face off years earlier before their 1st confrontation, they should.... no.... need to have AJ, Joe, and Shinsuke face each other on big stages within the next 2 years (not necessarily a 3 way but whatever combo of each feud), if Kurt can go.... even limited... they need to stop procrastinating and let him do his thing, and I could go on about a lot of other shyt but one more thing I would like to add.

Now some may hate it or disagree but I think they need a couple more titles for the other guys that are not World Champ level/ready, not gonna give US/IC opportunities, not in tag teams, too big to be CWs. I think they should bring back the TV title and Hardcore title.

Just for different style matches and give the other 80% of the roster something to do. The hardcore can be as obvious (guys that actually have a specialty in that style, not random guy that get thrown in a match and underneath the ring is kendo sticks and aluminum trashcans) but the TV title can be for the pure specialist that high level ring work and tell these "stories" for 10 minute time limit.

Martha

 

[WaveMolecules]

i get what theyre saying but aside from the "childhood dream" of wrestling for the E and wrestling at mania, youre going there for the potential. young bucks are bigger now than ever, imagine how big they COULD be in the E.

kinda shortsighted of them to say that.

 

[mrken12]

How many of these talented names were on smackdown or raw twice in a row this month?

They're completely wasting Chris Hero. He was stealing the show on the indies and now he barely shows up on NXT. He's getting closer to 40 so they need to push him while he's still on a roll.