I can see both sides of it, Em was down with d12 first and they held him down. He put them on so it's not like Eminem isn't loyal. The other side is Outsiderz pretty much gave him his swag and style back then and they held him down too. I've heard em is real sensitive and only gives people like a few chances before he cuts them. That seems to be true if you look at Pace situation and then Young Zee getting locked up and getting in trouble. Just cause dudes can rap and nice in the booth doesn't mean they have it together outside the booth. I'm sure pace would of liked a better career but at end of day he seems like he don't mind being a regular dude in the hood. They all still ill and can spit better then Em tho.