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And so does over half the league.

Look at his scoring output when the 3pt shot for him isn't falling and tell that you'd be willing to pay that type of player $20+ million a season. That's a bad contract waiting to happen and one that The Coli will be clowning a few years down the road.
There is likelihood the contract is good because he’s only 23 and still a few years away from his prime.

From my vantage dude puts a lot of work in to improve in the off-season.
 

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There is likelihood the contract is good because he’s only 23 and still a few years away from his prime.

From my vantage dude puts a lot of work in to improve in the off-season.

He's put in a lot of work, but it still doesn't change the fact that his offensive is mainly generated from being a C&S scorer. He's useless offensively otherwise as he isn't aggressive enough to attack the rim and/or get to the free throw line. Even players with less talent than him have no problem with trying to initiate contact and get to the free throw line.

Zion/Ingram/Zo is not a big 3 core that I'd be happy about throwing the bag at long term when they aren't good enough to help lead a team to even the play-in tournament. Yes, they need an upgrade at the wing position but so does over half the teams in the league.
 

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He’s not hating. For all of the talk on how Lonzo has improved on his shot, he’s useless offensively if the 3 pt shot isn’t calling for him. I wouldn’t be thrilled about my team investing $20+ million in a player who isn’t even aggressive enough to attack the rim and get to the free throw line.
The player you want Zo to be is an consistent all star and would be getting close to 30 million per. Zo's not that, yet.
 

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The player you want Zo to be is an consistent all star and would be getting close to 30 million per. Zo's not that, yet.

A lot of players in the league not making even $10 million per league have no problem with being aggressive and attacking the rim instead of mainly camping out behind the 3 pt line :mjlol:

Is that the excuse dudes are using now as to why he's a non-existent free throw shooter :russ:
 

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He's put in a lot of work, but it still doesn't change the fact that his offensive is mainly generated from being a C&S scorer. He's useless offensively otherwise as he isn't aggressive enough to attack the rim and/or get to the free throw line. Even players with less talent than him have no problem with trying to initiate contact and get to the free throw line.

Zion/Ingram/Zo is not a big 3 core that I'd be happy about throwing the bag at long term when they aren't good enough to help lead a team to even the play-in tournament. Yes, they need an upgrade at the wing position but so does over half the teams in the league.
When y'all say Zion/Zo/Ingram ain't it yall realize no one else ain't coming, right?
 

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A lot of players in the league not making even $10 million per league have no problem with being aggressive and attacking the rim instead of mainly camping out behind the 3 pt line :mjlol:
In addition to being talented passers and close to all nba defenders?
 

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In addition to being talented passers and close to all nba defenders?

That doesn't have shyt to do with not being aggressive in order to get to the free throw line.

Dude is a non-existent free throw shooter when it's easy to get to the free throw line these days with any ounce of minimal contact. You're acting as if I'm asking too much of the dude that lesser players don't do each game.
 

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:leon: Get it Lonzo

Was his release always that quick? Looks much faster.
 

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When y'all say Zion/Zo/Ingram ain't it yall realize no one else ain't coming, right?

So you'd rather them throw the bag at a core that isn't good enough to make the playoffs or even the play-in tournament?

Ask Sacramento how that's working out for them just because their core showed potential a few years back with an almost playoff berth.
 

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That doesn't have shyt to do with not being aggressive in order to get to the free throw line.

Dude is a non-existent free throw shooter when it's easy to get to the free throw line these days with any ounce of minimal contact. You're acting as if I'm asking too much of the dude that lesser players don't do each game.
You guys are saying a team shouldnt pay him 20 million per based on what he doesn't do consistently, and I'm telling you guys he is getting that money based on what he does do consistently and the possibility of him adding that to his game.
 

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You guys are saying a team shouldnt pay him 20 million per based on what he doesn't do consistently, and I'm telling you guys he is getting that money based on what he does do consistently and the possibility of him adding that to his game.

I'm not saying that he isn't going to get the money. What I'm saying is that I wouldn't do it if the price tag was over $20+ million depending on the team as it's asking for a contract to age terribly. His offense is non-existent with the 3 pt shot is falling. Don't believe me? Look at his stats when the 3 ball isn't falling. You can look at the game on Monday and see it for yourself. Like I said, you're whining as if I'm asking of the world from the dude when it's no different than what any other NBA player does on a night basis and the moment they step foot in the league. It shouldn't take him that long to understand that concept of contact and getting to the free throw line.

Dude has never averaged over 2 free throw attempts per game and he's 4 years now in the league. We're not talking about a first or second year player at this point. People gotta quit coddling the dude and treating him with kid gloves just because they're a fan of the Ball family.
 

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That doesn't have shyt to do with not being aggressive in order to get to the free throw line.

Dude is a non-existent free throw shooter when it's easy to get to the free throw line these days with any ounce of minimal contact. You're acting as if I'm asking too much of the dude that lesser players don't do each game.
This is actually not true. There’s more fouls on the perimeter but less fouls in the paint nowadays.

I think Zo can increase his slashing remember he’s only 23, that can be the next thing he works on.
 

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This is actually not true. There’s more fouls on the perimeter but less fouls in the paint nowadays.

I think Zo can increase his slashing remember he’s only 23, that can be the next thing he works on.

Age isn't an excuse at this point as younger players get to the free throw line more than Lonzo does. Dude plays 30+ minutes a game. There's no excuse for his free throw numbers to be as awful as they are.

Come up with a better one.
 
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