As Black Men, We Should All Be Relieved Chief Keef's Career Is Dead

[PhonZhi]

No. If i was white i wouldnt care about the state and mindset of the black community the way that i do. Hiphop culture=African American culture

Are u white?

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Yep. And in hindsight alotta that is poison also. I was the biggest Bone fan growing up but when i listen to it now i cant help but to admit that the content and messages are no different as todays rap. Only difference is that in the past u had to actually have rapping talent and there atleast was a balance of positive mixed in. You could hear Pharoah Monch, Mos Def, Talib on mainstream radio. Nowadays their is ZERO positivity. This includes the downfall of R&B also

So how can you condemn chief keef but when you were younger you loved and supported bone thugs who has a similar message. Positive Mainstream radio has nothing to do with what kind of music chief keef makes. Hip hop is a byproduct of poverty, pain, crime, creativity, frustration, socially inequality and competition. "Gangsta Rap" is just one element/genre/piece of hip hop

Pharoah Monch dropped a dope album last year. LP and killer mike, logic, ace hood all dropped "positive" records last year with good messages. I could go on. There are plenty of positive albums out there, but you choose to use the radio as a barometer.

 

[PhonZhi]

The positive spirit and vibe of the example i posted should make you ask yourself(assuming you are black): why isnt more uplifting, motivational music played on mainstream radio? Why does only songs about black men killing other black men,blacks selling dope to other blacks, black men degrading black women, materialism and promiscuity get promoted and pushed to the masses? Why does songs that promote self-esteem and black empowerment have to be "found" and "looked for"? And by thdd way i listen to it all. Im not above anything. I just realize that prolonged exposure to mind numbing rap has an effect on ones' mind and spirit in a negative way. Do u ever wonder why only music with destructive, negative messages are given the biggest platform to shine and to be taken in by the minds of the black youth? And its clearly TARGETED to the black youth. Like really, do u EVER ask yourself these questions or do u not really care?

what does the "spirit" of this song have to do with anything?

and why does it have to make me feel any particular way?

If i don't feel the same way about this song that you do....is that a problem? Or are you right and i'm wrong for feeling differently?

Y'all just gotta keep it 100, and admit that gangsta rap isn't for you....and quit trying to stand on some moral high ground to validate why you don't enjoy it.

A lot of y'all just can't accept that certain things simply aren't for you, and aren't to be catered to your liking.

 

[PhonZhi]

Dude u are like totally making my case. All of those "positive" rap albums most ppl never heard of. They dont get a mainstream push to influence the way negative music does. The radio is wat counts. The radio is wat influences the most breh. Rappers with "Thug" and "Murda" in their names are given platforms to influence the youth while the rappers with positive messages have to be "found". You dont have a problem with that?

So how can you condemn chief keef but when you were younger you loved and supported bone thugs who has a similar message. Positive Mainstream radio has nothing to do with what kind of music chief keef makes. Hip hop is a byproduct of poverty, pain, crime, creativity, frustration, socially inequality and competition. "Gangsta Rap" is just one element/genre/piece of hip hop

Pharoah Monch dropped a dope album last year. LP and killer mike, logic, ace hood all dropped "positive" records last year with good messages. I could go on. There are plenty of positive albums out there, but you choose to use the radio as a barometer.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Dude u are like totally making my case. All of those "positive" rap albums most ppl never heard of. They dont get a mainstream push to influence the way negative music does. The radio is wat counts. The radio is wat influences the most breh. Rappers with "Thug" and "Murda" in their names are given platforms to influence the youth while the rappers with positive messages have to be "found". You dont have a problem with that?

Who cares about what's on the radio? the best music isn't even on the radio. I dont fukk with the radio at all because I refuse to be forced to listen to music that I don't want.

2pac said thug in damn near every album/song he had. At some point you have to stop blaming rappers. Parents should take responsibility for raising their children.

 

[Taadow]

Hiphop culture=African American culture

No.

No no no.

I really hope you don't believe this. There is more to us than hip-hop culture.

 

[Insensitive]

C.Delores Tucker was right all along

Thanks for so blatantly expressing your lack of faith in black people.

No.

No no no.

I really hope you don't believe this. There is more to us than hip-hop culture.

I don't see why they can't understand that Hip Hop is an aspect of/product of
African American/Black culture but it is definitely not the entirety of it.

 

[Drew Wonder]

The number one album in the country right now and to my knowledge the best selling rap album this year is a positive rap album. the hottest rapper in the game is a suburban dude who talks about relationship. the second hottest rapper in the game is a conscious rapper

For people who grew up in and enjoyed the thug era/coke rap of the early 2000s, the mafioso rap of the mid to late 90s and the west coast gangsta rap of the early 90s to condemn today's rap for being too "ignorant" and "violent" is ridiculously hypocritical. Especially when some of the same people criticize today's rap for being too "soft." The new generation just can't win with ya'll. when they avoid the gangsta/street element, today's rappers are soft. when they actually prove that they're really about that life, they're ignorant and destructive. I have no problem with people taking a stance against ignorant messages, but don't be a fukkin hypocrite

 

[Buckeye Fever]

Nowadays, your career can never be dead in hip hop. With social media, you can parlay that into never punchin a clock, if u do it right

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

Who the fukk is still relying on the radio for good music? no sympathy for you.

 

[Wild self]

i didnt read through the thread, but I imagine Chicago is a little safer with Chief Keef having a rap career instead of being on the south side involved with all its fukkery

Keef got some money and still involved with fukkery after he blew up.

 

[Wild self]

i don't celebrate anyone's downfall. ever.

you look at the artists and look past the execs that sign them in massive quantities in order to promote an agenda. the artists themselves are doing nothing more than speaking what they live or what they see or know goes on.

it's nikkas like you that are the problem because your direction of thought is weak. you point the finger at the kid being manipulated by an agenda bigger than he, that is aimed and targeted him, funded by millions, if not billions of dollars, which he has no idea of the machine's existence. he's simply a byproduct of millions spent to destroy him from people that he never sees. yet you blame him for his destruction.

The machine uses him to fund their stocks in privately owned prisons.

 

[Barnett114]

i didnt read through the thread, but I imagine Chicago is a little safer with Chief Keef having a rap career instead of being on the south side involved with all its fukkery

 

[Wild self]

definitely some cointelpro type tactics going with the music just look at how hip hop was before compared to now, acts with positive messages (kendrick, cole and etc) are starting to eat again though..@bigrodthe1 had a dope thread on similar topics that got kind of slept on

That shyt is true. COINTELPRO rappers are lurking, being disguised as the "real" rappers from the streets.

 

[Peak]

The number one album in the country right now and to my knowledge the best selling rap album this year is a positive rap album. the hottest rapper in the game is a suburban dude who talks about relationship. the second hottest rapper in the game is a conscious rapper

For people who grew up in and enjoyed the thug era/coke rap of the early 2000s, the mafioso rap of the mid to late 90s and the west coast gangsta rap of the early 90s to condemn today's rap for being too "ignorant" and "violent" is ridiculously hypocritical. Especially when some of the same people criticize today's rap for being too "soft." The new generation just can't win with ya'll. when they avoid the gangsta/street element, today's rappers are soft. when they actually prove that they're really about that life, they're ignorant and destructive. I have no problem with people taking a stance against ignorant messages, but don't be a fukkin hypocrite