Chip Kelly is going to revolutionize this sport...

[bnm8907]

What's his CV in regards to offensive prowess and qb grooming tho

I'm not sure what cv means

As far as grooming qb's he idk he doesn't rely on qb's in college that much tbh. He is more of a personel, organization guy

He doesnlt put out first round draft pick qb's if thats point. He is defensive personel guy like Belicheck.

 

[FTBS]

And Lions while stafford was playing all pro ball made them better than they had been in years. Eli bullied his way into NY. A lot of great organizations passed on Rogers likeyou said. And the colts literally got Luck.
Colts are a prime example to me that organization has dysfunction from the very top. They personel dept wasn't really that good imo. But Peyton was good for 10-12 wins a year so it didn't matter. Soon as he gets hurt they the worst team in the league, and Andrew Luck just sitting there waiting to be scooped up.



My point still remains if dont have an all pro qb with few exceptions your only going to be but so good. If you have one with few exceptions your more than likley a playoff contender year in and year out. No matter who the coach is

And my point still remains that they are on 2 or 3 guys on that level so you can't just give folks a pass until they catch lightning in a bottle. Ben wasn't that good when the Steelers were winning. He a beast now and they stay missing the playoffs. Flacco was inconsistent as fukk early in his career but stayed in the playoffs every year. Lions were even better last year with Stafford being inconsistent as fukk. But more often than not they have sucked despite having a "franchise qb". A variety of factors contribute to winning and consistency. If your coach and GM do their job, you should still be competitive. The exceptions are the QBs carrying their squads.

 

[dennis roadman]

I'm not sure what cv means

As far as grooming qb's he idk he doesn't rely on qb's in college that much tbh. He is more of a personel, organization guy

He doesnlt put out first round draft pick qb's if thats point. He is defensive personel guy like Belicheck.

CV means résumé

And yeah my point exactly. Not a guarantee he'd had have NO Brees at all

 

[bnm8907]

CV means résumé

And yeah my point exactly. Not a guarantee he'd had have NO Brees at all

Nothing is ever guaranteed

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Chip Kelly folks!!

 

[dennis roadman]

Nothing is ever guaranteed

 

[bnm8907]

And my point still remains that they are on 2 or 3 guys on that level so you can't just give folks a pass until they catch lightning in a bottle. Ben wasn't that good when the Steelers were winning. He a beast now and they stay missing the playoffs. Flacco was inconsistent as fukk early in his career but stayed in the playoffs every year. Lions were even better last year with Stafford being inconsistent as fukk. But more often than not they have sucked despite having a "franchise qb". A variety of factors contribute to winning and consistency. If your coach and GM do their job, you should still be competitive. The exceptions are the QBs carrying their squads.

Steelers are always in contention for the playoffs year in and year out. Before stafford got there a few years before they went 0-16.

You also are naming just few teams. I just gave you the worst ten teams who all have had a bunch of different gm's and a bunch of different coaches.


And you're right in sense there are only are small minority of players (i said roughly ten) that play at that level. And to me these are the only teams are consistenly in the playoff hunt year after year, no matter the division, with a couple exceptins here or there. There are only 12 spots out of 32 teams eligible for playoff spot.

Maybe you definition and my definition of competitive are different. I'm saying your year in and year fighting for or have playoff spot. Not living between 6-9 wins a year consistently.

 

[bnm8907]

Whats ur point. He very well may not have been NO Brees. Tbh, he might not even have had to be for saban to have won more games. At least better than a washed D. Culpepper. Maybe a prior to injury Brees would have sufficed

But, if he was No brees or close to it, in all likelihood he would have one way more games was/is my original point.

 

[dennis roadman]

Whats ur point. He very well may not have been NO Brees. Tbh, he might not even have had to be for saban to have won more games. At least better than a washed D. Culpepper. Maybe a prior to injury Brees would have sufficed

But, if he was No brees or close to it, in all likelihood he would have one way more games was/is my original point.

I'm saying that Saban probably wouldn't have gotten what Payton got out of Brees. The Brees in NO is not just luck or experience, he has an offensive mind at the helm. You don't hire a defensive college coach to develop QBs

 

[FTBS]

Steelers are always in contention for the playoffs year in and year out. Before stafford got there a few years before they went 0-16.

You also are naming just few teams. I just gave you the worst ten teams who all have had a bunch of different gm's and a bunch of different coaches.


And you're right in sense there are only are small minority of players (i said roughly ten) that play at that level. And to me these are the only teams are consistenly in the playoff hunt year after year, no matter the division, with a couple exceptins here or there. There are only 12 spots out of 32 teams eligible for playoff spot.

Maybe you definition and my definition of competitive are different. I'm saying your year in and year fighting for or have playoff spot. Not living between 6-9 wins a year consistently.

In today's league this is the same thing Just look at some of these divisions. I named numerous teams for this year and over the last few years. Only team you have named is the Colts. None of those worse 10 teams had quality leadership in the FO or on the field, like I said. You are better off having a quality infrastructure to add a QB to if you ever get him and there is no guarantee that you do than you are sitting and waiting on him with a shytty or average infrastructure. QB only affects part of 1 of 3 phases of the game. GM and HC affect everything.

 

[Drake's Tan]

Fun fact: every poster on the Coli has coached as many NCAAF title and Superbowl winning teams as Chip Kelly.

 

[bnm8907]

I'm saying that Saban probably wouldn't have gotten what Payton got out of Brees. The Brees in NO is not just luck or experience, he has an offensive mind at the helm. You don't hire a defensive college coach to develop QBs

Possibly, like I said tho, He didn't have to be that good for saban, the Chargers Brees right before he got hurt might have been enough.

 

[Brady-Carter]

Man, going back over some stuff. It looks like Belichick was right.

This is a old story from 2013. Beli pretty much told BOB to stay away from philly b/c of Howie Roseman.

A potential sticking point for O'Brien regarding the Eagles job could be their new general manager Howie Roseman. The club's 37-year-old salary cap guru is known to be held in low regard by O'Brien's mentor, Patriots coach Bill Belichick, and by another strong O'Brien contact, former Broncos head coach and Patriots assistant Josh McDaniels.

Link

Now I am not going to defend Chip(I sotra of am going to). But it is interesting the leaks about Chip being a racist/ and a a$$hole started after Howie lost control(Howie is the guy who resigned Cooper by the way).

Listen I think Chip fukked up, and probably deserved to get fired. But Howie Roseman still being involved heavily with the eagles. FOH.

But Hey let's shyt on Chip and overlook Jeff Lurie, who might just be a shytty owner, who is propping up a shytty exec. But hey, who knows.

 

[bnm8907]

In today's league this is the same thing Just look at some of these divisions. I named numerous teams for this year and over the last few years. Only team you have named is the Colts. None of those worse 10 teams had quality leadership in the FO or on the field, like I said. You are better off having a quality infrastructure to add a QB to if you ever get him and there is no guarantee that you do than you are sitting and waiting on him with a shytty or average infrastructure. QB only affects part of 1 of 3 phases of the game. GM and HC affect everything.

Its not the same thing because that only works when u luck up and division is complete garbage that year.

I mean, to me things like quality leadership can be masked by win/loss records. And your qb and how well he plays is the biggest part of your win loss record.

 

[L. Deezy]

say what y'all want.. but College Football definitely hopped on Oregon dikk. Ive seen teams use the funny flashcards--->

Give Chip his props.. He's an innovator. He's gonna do well in Philly

Oh man...lol

He still my coach.. you cant have Bellichiks mentality with no Brady to make your decisions look good..lets be clear. Brady bailed all his dumb ass roster moves out