fukk A.I., fukk T-Mac and fukk everybody that love dem

[Jplaya2023]

Injuries are a part of the game. Kobe has been hurt just as often and severely as Tmac but the fact that he can come back from them quickly perform at the same level shows that he is on a pedestal higher than mcgrady.

lol, kobe has never had a debilitating back issue like tmac has had. What a fukking joke to even suggest that.

 

[Wacky D]

people really in here trying to say paul pierce is better than mcgrady?

this is worst than when dudes were trying to boost ray allen over Iverson.

 

[Jplaya2023]

It's like this Pierce has never been an A but he has always been a solid B+ for every season.
Mcgrady has an A+ for two or three years doesn't away from the fact that he was a C- every other year.
In the end the average make Pierce look better in retrospect.
Ya'll keep trying to say Mcgrady is better but he isn't, which is why he isn't on an nba roster and pierce is. You can only qualify it but by selecting 3 outta 15 seasons where he actually played better.
But that sound stupid to me. how you gonna give somebody props for 3 outta 15?

tmac made 7 all nba teams, so you can argue he was top 15 player in atleast 7 of his years.

 

[Wacky D]

lol, kobe has never had a debilitating back issue like tmac has had. What a fukking joke to even suggest that.

those broken noses are killer b.

worst injury you can get in basketball.

 

[Street Knowledge]

It's like this Pierce has never been an A but he has always been a solid B+ for every season.
Mcgrady has an A+ for two or three years doesn't away from the fact that he was a C- every other year.
In the end the average make Pierce look better in retrospect.
Ya'll keep trying to say Mcgrady is better but he isn't, which is why he isn't on an nba roster and pierce is. You can only qualify it but by selecting 3 outta 15 seasons where he actually played better.
But that sound stupid to me. how you gonna give somebody props for 3 outta 15?

Your overrating longevity, I understand You could argue that pierce has had a better career and he's had obviously has the longevity edge I'm just talking about players at their best. At their best Tmac is clearly better pierce, its not really a discussion.

There were People who used to argue Tmac was better then Kobe 02-04, when has Pierce ever been in that discussion? Tmac was getting legit mvp love, When has pierce?

He simply wasnt on that level of player

 

[stepbackj34spud]

Lets forget he's been playing with the best passer in the league who gets him ridiculously open looks quite often. I could care less about PER cause it doesn't add in defense among other things

He didn't play great, he played as well as I would expect him to play being the primary ballhandler when Rondo went down. His assists went up along with his hilariously bad turnovers he has the tendency to make. And if he was asked to much what happened in 2012 when i had to painfully watch Rondo and old ass KG attempt to beat Miami themselves (and coming damn close) while Pierce and Ray Ray looked scared as all hell any time they touched the ball?

02 Tracy was better than any version of Pierce and the best 2 guard of the early 2000's. Pierce has never been top 5 as a player in any season in his entire career. He was a better scorer, particularly when he got hot, much more explosive going to the rim, and a better defender (and that's saying something cause Pierce is almost as bad on D as Ray Allen was) and ironically you pick Pierce's best season which came right after the rule changes where every perimeter players numbers exploded and they still barely match up with 02 Tracy. its a shame Tracy's back gave out in 04 cause he would have been the best 2 guard for a long long time some time. Pierce is a great shooter, very good at drawing fouls, and has the court vision to make the necessary pass but he didn't draw the attention Tracy did and has at no point been even an average defender in his career.

I stopped reading after you said Rondo gets Pierce ridiculously easy looks. As if Pierce wasn't scoring more points/averaging more before Rondo was even in the league. SMFH @ the thought of Pierce needing Rondo to score the basketball.

And this nikka got the nerve to call himself a "Pierce Stan"

Welcome to my ignore list homie.

 

[stepbackj34spud]

Your overrating longevity, I understand You could argue that pierce has had a better career and he's had obviously has the longevity edge I'm just talking about players at their best. At their best Tmac is clearly better pierce, its not really a discussion.

There were People who used to argue Tmac was better then Kobe 02-04, when has Pierce ever been in that discussion? Tmac was getting legit mvp love, When has pierce?

He simply wasnt on that level of player

Like I've said, Pierce in 05-06 was better than any version of T-Mac. Pierce didnt get notoriety until the 07-08 season. He was always that level of player, he just never took as much FGA as these two clowns.

You guys keep bringing T-Mac averaging 32ppg one season like its something special. If prime Pierce took 25 shots a game, he'd average over 30 as well.

If he'd played with prime Shaq, he would've won championships and be considered one of the best wing players in the game/superstar.

And there is no argument on who has had the better career. T-Mac isn't even go to the hall of fame.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

95% of this board doesn't even remember that nikkas game outside of "he's a chucker who never passed"

The majority of the dudes that post on this side of the board, are mid-20s and older - they know his game. You obviously weren't here when we were running through the h*mster.

 

[Lakerman0834]

people thinknig prime pierce is even close to prime T-mac. Pierce was an after thought until KG and Ray made him relevant. Give me a prime tmac over a prime pierce any day

 

[Street Knowledge]

Like I've said, Pierce in 05-06 was better than any version of T-Mac. Pierce didnt get notoriety until the 07-08 season. He was always that level of player, he just never took as much FGA as these two clowns.

You guys keep bringing T-Mac averaging 32ppg one season like its something special. If prime Pierce took 25 shots a game, he'd average over 30 as well.

If he'd played with prime Shaq, he would've won championships and be considered one of the best wing players in the game/superstar.

And there is no argument on who has had the better career. T-Mac isn't even go to the hall of fame.

Who cares about shots per game when Pierce wasnt even much more efficient then Tmac? That's not even taking into account Mac was playing in a way tougher defensive environment for wing players in 2003.

2003 Tmac is better then 2006 Pierce at everything except for rebounding and he got his team to the playoffs unlike Pierce

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

How a 5'10-11 160lb man can consistently put up the numbers he did can be overrated is beyond me.

It's not being streaky so much as him having to carry such a heavy load on offense while being under 6 feet tall.

This is the type of bullshyt I'm talking about - I don't give a fukk if this nikka was 4ft tall. Lack of height doesn't excuse him from the conversation of being overrated nor does it excuse his deficiencies. Yall are prime examples of why I made this thread.

Then u got TMAC who in his prime is as good as anyone you can name today. 6'10-11 great range, good defender, athletic, just damn near everything. Like if you put prime TMAC in the game right now no injuries he's top 5. Imagine if he did the Bron shyt and joined with Kobe or Pierce and a pretty good PF. It's sad how the injuries hurt him career wise he really should be one of the GOATs

If T-mac wouldn't have had a bad back or messed his knee up he would still be balling at a high level and putting up numbers. Nothing about him was overrated overhyped. A healthy in his prime T-mac was one of the purest scorers ever and his only real flaw was never getting a team out of the first round. But at the same time he was playing against some pretty good teams back then too. It was just the 2008 season when he was getting legit MVP consideration so it hasn't been that long since he was considered a top tier player. And Iverson has his faults and was shot happy but he was still a great scorer who had more heart than most.

And the bullshyt continues. Stop dealing in hypotheticals. Deal with reality and reality only. Stop talking what might have happened and talk what happened. His reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

and im not even gonna bother arguing about Iverson on here anymore. how Iverson constantly gets underrated on a so-called hip-hop message board is beyond me. you'd think he would be overrated on here instead, but no. wow.

You live in a make-believe world.

 

[Wacky D]

You live in a make-believe world.

don't quote me with dumb chit.

 

[Illuminatos]

You're right that T-Mac's prime wasn't very long, and he probably was never a credible MVP candidate, but you can't say that about Iverson. A.I. was a truly prolific scorer for years and years. He willed a garbage team to the Finals, won an MVP, and finished top 25 in career scoring in NBA history -- ahead of Larry Bird and Charles Barkley, to name a few. The man is a Hall of Famer.

DPOY
Coach of The Year
Sixth Man of The Year
MVP

That team was not garbage.

 

[ladymarie]

DPOY
Coach of The Year
Sixth Man of The Year

This is the type of bullshyt I'm talking about - I don't give a fukk if this nikka was 4ft tall. Lack of height doesn't excuse him from the conversation of being overrated nor does it excuse his deficiencies. Yall are prime examples of why I made this thread.




And the bullshyt continues. Stop dealing in hypotheticals. Deal with reality and reality only. Stop talking what might have happened and talk what happened. His reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns.

nikka what? You can't ignore someones height when you are looking at them as a player fukk are u talking about right now. I know for a fact you never played at a high level, shyt much less any level if you don't understand how a person 6 ft has to be Nothing short of incredible to even sniff the league. If you could be average Sebastian Telfair would be a perennial allstar.


And y'all really got chill with his team wasn't that bad shyt cause they won team awards. Sixth man doesn't necessarily = exceptional player. What it means is that you were the best guy coming off the bench on one of the top teams. Not to take away from Aaron but be real. They had exceptional chemistry and that takes u far as a team with inferior players. This is simple basketball knowledge. You don't see none of then blowing up after they left the 6ers why cause individually they sucked.