fukk A.I., fukk T-Mac and fukk everybody that love dem

[Luke Cage]

what are you talking about?

mcgrady has more individual accolades than pierce DESPITE playing healthy seasons

the paul pierce led celtics were openly tanking before they got garnett. yall know damn well yall wouldnt be arguing this if it wasn't for that

nikka Pierce is almost two years older than tmac and is still an allstar level starter on a contending team right now.
Mcgrady hasn't seen the starting lineup since molly cyrus went rachet and isn't even playing.
Pierce is still getting accolades
Mcgrady is Retired. We try to compare Mcgrady to his peers like he's on their level when they are all still great players and he is a has been.
I give Iverson a pass because he's almost 40 years old and 5'11
Mcgrady is younger than half the knicks roster last season and still saw less playing than rasheed wallace.

 

[ManBearPig]

Having teammates who show up is a big part of advancing in the playoffs too. Not saying that Mcgrady is exempt for never getting out of the first but he played some good teams those years and all of those series were close and could have went either way. And I don't think T-mac's team was the higher seed in any of those playoff years you named. He was going down fighting against those teams not going out in a 4 or 5 game series.

i'm just letting you know that Pierce was able to carry his weak ass Celtrics cast past a Pacers squad that had J.Oneal, Artest, Reggie, Brad Miller and Al back in 03 without home court..... tell me why Tmac cant take out the Hornets without Mashburn I think?

I do think prime Tmac > Pierce but Tmac wasn't this 2nd coming of Michael Jordan.

 

[LebronsHairline]

On here? Nah. Taking A.I. off his pedestal and sitting him back in reality is looked at as taboo on this board.

95% of this board doesn't even remember that nikkas game outside of "he's a chucker who never passed"

 

[LebronsHairline]

SMFH



He was. T-Mac had a hot 3-4 years, Pierce is still going. My nikka just came off a season where he averaged 20/6/5 per 36mpg with limited shots.
The only reason people say T-Mac was better is because he took more shots. fukk him and Iverson and their overrated careers.

Pierce could barely give 80% for more than half a game last season, he looked winded as all hell every second half. these per 36 minute stats are retarded beyond belief. And Tracy at his best was a better player than Pierce at his best. And im probably the biggest Pierce stan on this board

 

[stepbackj34spud]

you didnt debunk shyt dumb n*gga

im not gonna argue with someone who doesnt even know their own team.

So I don't know my team now?

Breh go sit the fukk down.

 

[ManBearPig]

95% of this board doesn't even remember that nikkas game outside of "he's a chucker who never passed"

my biggest concern was how streaky he was... I mean REALLY streaky. 31ppg on 39% shooting or like 28 shots is just annoying to even think about.

 

[Luke Cage]

Paul Pierce Statline at age 35
18.6ppg 6.3rpg 4.8apg

Tracy Mcgrady Statline at age 32
5.3ppg 3rpg 2.1apg


The last time Mcgrady had a good season was 2007-08
Paul Pierce won the Championship that year

In Paul Pierce's Worst season(his rookie year) he put up better numbers than mcgrady did in 7 of his seasons(8 if you count mcgradys stint with the spurs last year.)

 

[ManBearPig]

Paul Pierce Statline at age 35
18.6ppg 6.3rpg 4.8apg

Tracy Mcgrady Statline at age 32
5.3ppg 3rpg 2.1apg


The last time Mcgrady had a good season was 2007-08
Paul Pierce won the Championship that year

In Paul Pierce's Worst season(his rookie year) he put up better numbers than mcgrady did in 7 of his seasons(8 if you count mcgradys stint with the spurs last year.)

what are yall arguing about?

i'm sure we all agree that Pierce had a better career but Tmac was better in his prime than Pierce ever was.

I think that Spud character is the only one that disagrees to dat fact.

 

[stepbackj34spud]

Pierce could barely give 80% for more than half a game last season, he looked winded as all hell every second half. these per 36 minute stats are retarded beyond belief. And Tracy at his best was a better player than Pierce at his best. And im probably the biggest Pierce stan on this board

Paul Pierce averaged 19ppg 6apg 5apg and had a higher PER than almost every eastern conference all star reserve last season. He looked winded in the playoffs, but in the second half of the season(mainly when Rondo went down) he played great, so I have no idea what you're talking about. After Rondo went down Pierce, all of Pierce's numbers went up and he had like 4 triple doubles. He broke down in the playoffs due to fatigue and being asked to do too much. He was a 35 year old SF being asked to play PG and still score.

T-Mac on the other hand hasn't played meaningful minutes in the NBA in about 4 seasons.

Pierce at his best(05-06 season) was better than any version of T-Mac.

You're obviously not the biggest Pierce Stan on this forum, but that was cute of you to add.

 

[LebronsHairline]

my biggest concern was how streaky he was... I mean REALLY streaky. 31ppg on 39% shooting or like 28 shots is just annoying to even think about.

It's not being streaky so much as him having to carry such a heavy load on offense while being under 6 feet tall. The man never had a decent second option scoring wise until he hit the nuggets and he was old and broken by then. 95% of the plays Larry had/run were plays intended to either get Iverson an open jumper, get him cutting to the rim with a pass waiting or allowing him to go 1 on 1 on an island and create for others. He wasn't just shooting cause he wanted to, he was shooting cause thats what his coach wanted him to do. Having a 160 lb guy take this kind of beating night in and night out it's surprising he shot as well as he did.

Guy wanted to play so bad he once broke his thumb, cut his own cast off, went to the NBA store to buy a new jersey (his coach hid his jersey so he couldn't force his way into the game) just so he could play in a regular season game. But i see nikkas sayin Rose is better and i havent seen that guy on the court in like 3 years

 

[stepbackj34spud]

what are yall arguing about?

i'm sure we all agree that Pierce had a better career but Tmac was better in his prime than Pierce ever was.

I think that Spud character is the only one that disagrees to dat fact.

Yeah, Pierce in 05-06 was better than T-Mac ever was. I'm not impressed with T-Mac averaging 25 shots per game to score 32ppg a game.

 

[ManBearPig]

It's not being streaky so much as him having to carry such a heavy load on offense while being under 6 feet tall. The man never had a decent second option scoring wise until he hit the nuggets and he was old and broken by then. 95% of the plays Larry had/run were plays intended to either get Iverson an open jumper, get him cutting to the rim with a pass waiting or allowing him to go 1 on 1 on an island and create for others. He wasn't just shooting cause he wanted to, he was shooting cause thats what his coach wanted him to do. Having a 160 lb guy take this kind of beating night in and night out it's surprising he shot as well as he did.

Guy wanted to play so bad he once broke his thumb, cut his own cast off, went to the NBA store to buy a new jersey (his coach hid his jersey so he couldn't force his way into the game) just so he could play in a regular season game. But i see nikkas sayin Rose is better and i havent seen that guy on the court in like 3 years

Iverson was old and broken down when he was playing for the Nuggets?

he had his highest ppg season ever just a season prior going to the Nuggets.

The Nuggets didn't do shyt because they didn't play D and were kinda stupid. Iverson was even better than Melo in 08.

 

[Luke Cage]

what are yall arguing about?

i'm sure we all agree that Pierce had a better career but Tmac was better in his prime than Pierce ever was.

I think that Spud character is the only one that disagrees to dat fact.

Tmacs Prime lasted 150 games and Paul Pierce won a championship during the span. It's hard for me to give him props for that. That would be like saying Jeremy Lin was the best Point Guard in the league during his prime when linsanity only lasted 2 months.

 

[Wacky D]

t-mac's prime was riddled with injuries.

when healthy, he was on the same pedestal as kobe.

and im not even gonna bother arguing about Iverson on here anymore. how Iverson constantly gets underrated on a so-called hip-hop message board is beyond me. you'd think he would be overrated on here instead, but no. wow.

 

[jwinfield]

No Celtics team was openly tanking.

http://deadspin.com/252415/ryan-gomes-is-aware-of-the-celtics-priorities

"I probably (would have played), but since we were in the hunt for a high draft pick, of course things are different," Gomes said. "I understand that. Hopefully things get better. Now that we clinched at least having the second-most balls in the lottery, the last three games we'll see what happens. We'll see if we can go out and finish some games."