Hot 97 - One Gotta Go: Kanye West, Dre, Pharrell or Timberland

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  • Dre

    Votes: 42 15.2%
  • Kanye

    Votes: 73 26.4%
  • Pharrell

    Votes: 92 33.3%
  • Timbaland

    Votes: 69 25.0%

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kanye gave us a few great albums :obama:

dre gave us eras of great music; eras, muthafukkas! :damn:

timberland gave us an endless amount of great music from workin' with a wide range of artists :wow:

pharrell gave us some moments but compared to those other guys, he don't compare :manny:
 

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Dre is pretty untouchable in this one. Longest running, too many artists and albums with his touch.

Pharrell constantly reinventing himself, also probably the most self-sufficient/least dependent on underlings for sounds.

Ye has classics but for the last 6 years he's had an Avengers team of producers doing work. He gives them credit but still.

Timbo been quiet for a minute but he got hits and his shyt ages better than The Neptunes.

Goddamn brehs :wow: I wanna say Tim buy can't click the vote button. It's him or Ye though
 

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I say dre but i'm still hesitating...I'm kind've leaning toward pharrell but i can't forget about excuse me miss, frontin, n.e.r.d albums and all the production he's done thats classics.

I stanned for p hard when i was younger so i'm going to go with DR.DRE.:francis:
 

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You gon ignore Blueprint,Kanye pushing his own career,revitalizing Commons career and Twista:patrice:?

And no I'm not a Kanye stan,but its almost a insult at least based on my own personal taste that Pharell is even in this discussion in regards to hiphop,when I think timeless beats Pharell name don't come up....I know producers do more than that,but being that all parties involved do it all,you gotta weed out the person with the weakest instrumentals:sas1:....Pharell don't belong here,I don't care how much you nikkas and the media try to force his "genius" on me:camby:.,he's overated as shyt.

Really Dre is in a class by himself on this list in terms of hiphop,but Timbaland is on the RNB side....Kanye has produced some crazy shyt that Pharell could never match,its actually disgusting to see Pharell on this list if you want my honest opinion....he makes good pop beats for when rappers wanna crossover? So what,most of it ages like shyt vs wine:banderas:

I do gotta give him credit for Twista. I guess Common as well...even though I think Common could of made a comeback without him. Nevertheless he gets due for that.

He did produce the best shyt from Blueprint but Jay was a proven commodity that didn't need help in his career at that point.

And pushing himself as an artist...well okay that's great and all but whose to say/know if the production he made for himself would of catapulted someone else if they were to use those beats. :manny:

As an overall artist in which he is, he has influenced many up and comers. No doubt about that!!

As for Pharrell...they may not be timeless to you but his category speaks for itself. He put on and revitalized more careers than Kanye and has influenced many other producers with his sound.

Revitalized careers of Snoop, Busta, Mystikal and made fukking N.O.R.E. a mainstream success. Put Clipse, Kelis, Slim Thug, Robin Thicke on the map. That's plenty more artists than Ye.

Here is my thing...personally I'm basing this based on which producer has put on more artist or revitalized careers. Also which producer has influenced others with their sound. Not who has the best body of work. Kanye hasn't done those things compare to the other three imo
 

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kanye is the weakest overall.

in terms of just hip-hop, its between kanye & timbaland. timbo has those drums but he cant command an album, and cant further any careers. hes really an r&b producer anyway. now hes a pop producer.

neptunes dropped more trash than anybody, but the good stuff they did absolutely has to stay.
 
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I do gotta give him credit for Twista. I guess Common as well...even though I think Common could of made a comeback without him. Nevertheless he gets due for that.

He did produce the best shyt from Blueprint but Jay was a proven commodity that didn't need help in his career at that point.

And pushing himself as an artist...well okay that's great and all but whose to say/know if the production he made for himself would of catapulted someone else if they were to use those beats. :manny:

As an overall artist in which he is, he has influenced many up and comers. No doubt about that!!

As for Pharrell...they may not be timeless to you but his category speaks for itself. He put on and revitalized more careers than Kanye and has influenced many other producers with his sound.

Revitalized careers of Snoop, Busta, Mystikal and made fukking N.O.R.E. a mainstream success. Put Clipse, Kelis, Slim Thug, Robin Thicke on the map. That's plenty more artists than Ye.

Here is my thing...personally I'm basing this based on which producer has put on more artist or revitalized careers. Also which producer has influenced others with their sound. Not who has the best body of work. Kanye hasn't done those things compare to the other three imo

If you reluctant to give Kanye credit for Common,you gotta take Snoop off Pharells list,"revitalized" Snoops career is a strong word:patrice:....Also I don't like your method as far as what your basing it on....Because like I say,you gotta give credit to Pharell credit for being a guy who has a thing for making pop hits that crossover for hiphop artist,you could probably give him credit for Beenie Man too.....BUT everybody in this category has done that,and Dre and Kanye have done it moreso with staying in the roots of hiphop....Plus when you talk putting on more artist,is Pharell putting on artist or revitalizing careers,or simply giving them a pop hit:patrice:? That's not really contributing to a classic body of work.

Pharells biggest claim to a classic body of work is HEll Hath No Fury,which personally I think is overated.....If we talking albums from newcomers that were entirely about crack:mjlol:,I'd definitely say two albums that were not only superior but better produced,and way more successful to Hell Hath No Fury would be Shynes debut,along with Jeezys debut....Don't really think theres any argument against this.

You cant just look at hits because Pharell might be superior in regards to giving you a crossover pop hit than anybody on this list,he's built great for pop....But he just simply cant stand toe to toe with any great hiphop producer imo....we not gon give Kanye credit for songs like Scarface "Guess Whos Back" or Beans classic "Nothing Like It",Camron "Down and Out"?Simply because they wasn't as big as "Pass the Couversie":comeon:? Nah homie,I need you to rethink this one:whoa:

If we REALLY talkin bodys of work Pharell will look like a laughing stock next to everybody else mentioned here,beat for beat,song for song Pharell is outclassed....I argue that you are ignoring the body of work with your criteria....Busta,Snoop and Kelis also just to note still had hits well before Pharell,and still had big hits after that Pharell wasn't responbsible for....they are hitmakers in they own right.
 

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If you reluctant to give Kanye credit for Common,you gotta take Snoop off Pharells list,"revitalized" Snoops career is a strong word:patrice:....Also I don't like your method as far as what your basing it on....Because like I say,you gotta give credit to Pharell credit for being a guy who has a thing for making pop hits that crossover for hiphop artist,you could probably give him credit for Beenie Man too.....BUT everybody in this category has done that,and Dre and Kanye have done it moreso with staying in the roots of hiphop....Plus when you talk putting on more artist,is Pharell putting on artist or revitalizing careers,or simply giving them a pop hit:patrice:? That's not really contributing to a classic body of work.

Pharells biggest claim to a classic body of work is HEll Hath No Fury,which personally I think is overated.....If we talking albums from newcomers that were entirely about crack:mjlol:,I'd definitely say two albums that were not only superior but better produced,and way more successful to Hell Hath No Fury would be Shynes debut,along with Jeezys debut....Don't really think theres any argument against this.

You cant just look at hits because Pharell might be superior in regards to giving you a crossover pop hit than anybody on this list,he's built great for pop....But he just simply cant stand toe to toe with any great hiphop producer imo....we not gon give Kanye credit for songs like Scarface "Guess Whos Back" or Beans classic "Nothing Like It",Camron "Down and Out"?Simply because they wasn't as big as "Pass the Couversie":comeon:? Nah homie,I need you to rethink this one:whoa:

If we REALLY talkin bodys of work Pharell will look like a laughing stock next to everybody else mentioned here,beat for beat,song for song Pharell is outclassed....I argue that you are ignoring the body of work with your criteria....Busta,Snoop and Kelis also just to note still had hits well before Pharell,and still had big hits after that Pharell wasn't responbsible for....they are hitmakers in they own right.

Nah...I give him the props for Common big time. I'm just saying that I think Common may have made a comeback without the help of 'Ye.

In terms of body of work overall...no, I put Kanye over Pharrell as well. No doubt!! What I'm saying is that in my opinion Pharrell put on/revitalized more artists than 'Ye. He really has!! Whether the production is better or not.

'Ye only got Common and Twista. Guys like Scarface and Cam' Ron had hit records from 'Ye but 'Ye didn't put them on the map once again.

Scarface had On My Block (on his accord) and Cam was riding the wave of his DipSet movement.
 

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LMFAO yaw saying Pharrell are retarded. The answer is Dre easily, he had more social impact than musical.

If we talking music Dre has to go first.

Pharell produced "Alright" (Kendrick), "Chasing Paper" (Currency), "Good Kid" (Kendrick), and a bunch of other shid on the low. Pharrell ain't going nowhere.
 

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I said Dre, but god damn that is tough.

EDIT: I thought about and I change it 'Ye. I can hear a Dre, Timbo, and Pharrell beat and recognize who produced it. Kanye doesn't have that signature sound.
 

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Nah...I give him the props for Common big time. I'm just saying that I think Common may have made a comeback without the help of 'Ye.

In terms of body of work overall...no, I put Kanye over Pharrell as well. No doubt!! What I'm saying is that in my opinion Pharrell put on/revitalized more artists than 'Ye. He really has!! Whether the production is better or not.

'Ye only got Common and Twista. Guys like Scarface and Cam' Ron had hit records from 'Ye but 'Ye didn't put them on the map once again.

Scarface had On My Block (on his accord) and Cam was riding the wave of his DipSet movement.

I wasn't giving Kanye credit for those guys,I was just talking about the quality of those beats and the fact those songs are classics as well as the beat.....I don't think those should be discounted just because they didn't put somebody on,or weren't hit records....That's kindve what you are doing when you give Pharell more credit than Kanye simply for giving nikkas pop hit....It would be different if your giving credit for actually putting nobodys on,or producing classic albums for nikkas...But Pharell only has one arguable claim to that and that's the Clipse,and they flopped with they debut irrc,so its not like he made them superstars,also classic status of that album is debateable....the other people you name were already stars or known outside of Kelis....I'd even give Pharell some extra credit if he was giving nobodys these hits and turning them into stars....but Snoop never really disappeared and was still a go to feature guy at the time...Pass The Courversier didn't take Bustas career to new heights he hadn't been,or Snoop,nor did Pharell give a classic album to either of them....Kanye meanwhile produced BE for Common:blessed:....That alone gets more credit than giving a few pop hits to some people who mostly were already stars doesn't it?

Meanwhile Kanye produced a classic for himself,played a big part in producing a classic for Jay,produced a classic for Common,arguable made Pusha T a bigger act than Pharell did:sas2:?But as long as you give Kanye credit for having a better body of work overall,guess theres really no argument.

My only argument I guess would be the criteria you are using to decide what makes these producers stand above Kanye....also how you are deciding it as well.

I would definitely say Kanye has influenced more peoples sound than Pharell....whether it be folks running the soul sample into the ground,or rather it be this emo shyt they learned from listening to 808's heartbreaks:snoop:....Take that into account,along with the fact he's produced more FULL classic bodys of work,and not just gave artist singles,plus comparing the quality of the beats and the songs themselves both have produced,gotta give it to Kanye....even by your own criteria you pretty much have to give it to Kanye,unless you really putting that much stock into these singles Pharell produced.
 

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Toss up between Kanye or Pharrell.

I may choose Pharrell, because you still will have Chad and I've never been crazy about the neptunes sound (cheap synth sounds or strip down drum tracks)

Now that I think about it, Neptunes are just an upgraded version of swizz beatz.
 
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