i'm gon go head and call it for what it's worth, hip hop & rap ain't shyt no more. i'm done with it

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Some people tie in childhood nostalgia into records (myself included) and then get upset when records these days don't give them that same feeling. For example, Drake 'Started From The Bottom' is actually a catchier song than Jadakiss "We Gon Make It" but We Gon Make It reminds me of smoking blunts in High School ditching class so it holds more weight.

There's a lot of new and interesting music coming out, if you are looking. I get hit off with so much above average music I have trouble getting through it all. Great problem to have.
this is the other half of the "problem"
 

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see, i respect this. :obama:

ok ok i gotta get back at you.

are you really gonna deny its not you just growing up and not having any childhood nostalgic feelings to newer shyt or are you really tryna say todays music "dont got that bump like it used to'' or whatever.

to say hip hop has been wack since 97 is outrageous.

do you even bump underground, or do you like your music on the radio?
 

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its not that talent is disappearing, its because of the labels

IMO the most talented artists these days are really good producers, Im not seeing any genre pushing limits like edm/hip hop production
You cannot keep blaming labels. Artists aren't forced to sign.
 

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If what you said is true. That is a horrible excuse to complain about the rap music today.

Forums like this give people a platform to discuss all kinds of albums. For example, there was a big ass thread on Lil Ugly Mane, another thread on the hottest up and coming MC's in NY etc etc.

I think that it just boils down to age so sometimes a lot of cats are stuck in the 90s or the 90s sound and their ears won't allow them to open up to music of today. The generational gap has become somewhat of a barrier

True about the forums, however it's still a limited pool of the population. When 2pac was hot for instance, you could talk about 2pac tracks with rap fans in Europe, Asia, everybody was listening to the same person who was making club tracks, thug tracks, political tracks etc. Remember this was pre-interent and social media era, so it is crazy when you think about it. There was also that element of "the struggle" in rap that popularized it in areas of the world where conflict was rife, such as in Africa, Middle East, Eastern Europe etc., people were bonding with the artist on an emotional level based on the contents of the songs. Each rapper came out with a "story" and people were connecting with it. Nas had the street tales, Jay z the hustler tales, etc.

The same cannot be said today about what rappers come out with, it's usually the same club shyt. So it is that part that puts some people off more than the newer "sound" so to speak. People may be a Chief Keef fan, French Montana or any of these new cats, but you won't see them rocking t-shirts of these artists the way people did in the 90s in places very far from America, and a lot of the fans won't be as familiar with their rappers discography as people back then were. This is because rappers nowadays are more like temporary trends and don't have the longevity artists had back in the 90s, back then if you had one successful album you could expect your second one to be successful too, nowadays your single is what you are depending on, which doesn't guarantee your album will be hot. Technology also influenced this too, so it isn't just the quality of the artists music itself that caused this effect. However you are right, some cats won't even give new artists a chance because they too attached to the 90s sound.
 

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You cannot keep blaming labels. Artists aren't forced to sign.
at no point in the history of forever will most artists not take the money. In this world you really cant blame them. Well unless they have the drive to go indie
 

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hes saying because beats bang really hard now but you say its not hitting anymore when sonically its hitting 10x harder
I'm using "hitting" in a different context than what you are talking about.

its deeper than that - u know this.

only wack dudes get signed by labels these days
No it's not. Plenty of talented artists are signed to major labels. You can look up their rosters at your leisure. Let's not lie just for the sake of conversation.

at no point in the history of forever will most artists not take the money. In this world you really cant blame them. Well unless they have the drive to go indie
So do we blame the drug dealer or the user? Or the manufacturer? Or the pilot who flew it in? Or the inventor of planes? Or the person who came up with the idea of the drug in the first place? Artists are warned all the time about signing yet they still do. Industry rule #4080 anyone?
 

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I'm using "hitting" in a different context than what you are talking about.


No it's not. Plenty of talented artists are signed to major labels. You can look up their rosters at your leisure. Let's not lie just for the sake of conversation.


So do we blame the drug dealer or the user? Or the manufacturer? Or the pilot who flew it in? Or the inventor of planes? Or the person who came up with the idea of the drug in the first place? Artists are warned all the time about signing yet they still do. Industry rule #4080 anyone?
im confused as to what drugs have to do with this thread, i get the metaphor but its really weak. And i know what context you used hitting under, what the other dude said was almost like a joke.
 

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I just listened to killah priest "heavy mental" n sunz of man "last shall be first"...im also asking what happen3d to this artform. Music was inspirational, had a message and brought a voice to the youth f3om inner cities.

Now rappers glorify the violence from the inner city...swlling drugs like its a cool thing to do.

Listen to sunz of man "illusions"

Peace
 

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We all get older.

I'm currently buying my favorite compact discs all over again and ripping them into high resolution audio such as AIFF files.

If the radio, tv and internet does not satisfy my music needs(it really hasn't since 2005), I will always have my collection to fall back on.

Hip-Hop has not recovered from when it got corporate and when Gangsta Rap and The Shinny Suit era hit the scene.

There's more to Hip-Hop, then just smoking loud, riding around and getting it while turning up.

Escape the clubs.

Escape the turn up.

Just go out and purchase your favorite artists albums.

fukk Clear Channel.
 

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In reality you New York cats are ruining it with that jealousy/superior mentality
 
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