It's not gonna get deep enough to even have the appearance of friendship if the women is just average looking

. The thing that most women don't get is that men do not value friendship as much as you all do and conversely men value sex far more than you guys do. 9.9 times out of 10 if a guy is spending a lot of time with a female, sex is his motive. Now if you are just talking about being associates where you guys may talk at work or in school or in passing at a function, that's one thing. But if you are talking friendship, that requires a lot of time and effort, time and effort that guys generally reserve for p*ssy.