Why are men who are into astrology/spirituality so rare?

[Space Cowboy]

When broads ask what's your love language.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Why are "astrology" and "spirituality" lumped together in the title? Those two thing are completely unrelated.


It's like someone saying, "Why do so many men waste all their money on casinos and investments?" There's only a connection between the two things if you're doing one of them very, very poorly.

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

It’s witchcraft

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I think there's something to it.

Certain zodiac signs do seem to follow certain patterns.

That's just selection bias and the normal human tendency to latch onto patterns whether or not they're even there. You're told that a sign follows a certain pattern, so you notice the times when it happens, and ignore/forget all the other times when it didn't.

There isn't a single physical process by which a "sign" could have an impact on a person's personality, nor is there the slightest scientific evidence that it happens. And the funniest thing is that the constellations actually shift position over time, so what people claim is their zodiac sign doesn't even fit which constellation is in the sky anymore. The date cutoffs are COMPLETELY arbitrary with no actual correspondence to reality at all.

Why your zodiac sign is probably wrong

The science of astronomy is now at odds with one of the basic organizing principles in astrology – the dates of the zodiac.

www.astronomy.com

Your 'star sign' doesn't match your real zodiac constellation

You might be surprised to know the "star signs" in your newspaper don't match up with the actual constellations in the sky. This is why.

www.abc.net.au

Zodiac signs are off by a month, expert says

Hey there, what's your sign? Are you sure about that? It seems that many of us may not be the Leos and Geminis we thought we were, thanks to a wobble in the earth's axis.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[re'up]

That's just selection bias and the normal human tendency to latch onto patterns whether or not they're even there. You're told that a sign follows a certain pattern, so you notice the times when it happens, and ignore/forget all the other times when it didn't.

There isn't a single physical process by which a "sign" could have an impact on a person's personality, nor is there the slightest scientific evidence that it happens. And the funniest thing is that the constellations actually shift position over time, so what people claim is their zodiac sign doesn't even fit which constellation is in the sky anymore. The date cutoffs are COMPLETELY arbitrary with no actual correspondence to reality at all.

Why your zodiac sign is probably wrong

The science of astronomy is now at odds with one of the basic organizing principles in astrology – the dates of the zodiac.

www.astronomy.com

Your 'star sign' doesn't match your real zodiac constellation

You might be surprised to know the "star signs" in your newspaper don't match up with the actual constellations in the sky. This is why.

www.abc.net.au

Zodiac signs are off by a month, expert says

Hey there, what's your sign? Are you sure about that? It seems that many of us may not be the Leos and Geminis we thought we were, thanks to a wobble in the earth's axis.

www.ctvnews.ca

Two things:

1) I feel like a p*ssy that I know anything about astrology

2) I have said that for years about astrology, can't think of any PHYSICAL PROCESS as you said that could explain a connection NO ONE CAN. Yet, there's times where it does feel real in a sense. I match my LIBRA sign a lot. But, like other things, are they just common archetypes varied enough to be relatable to a dozen types of people.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Two things:

1) I feel like a p*ssy that I know anything about astrology

2) I have said that for years about astrology, can't think of any PHYSICAL PROCESS as you said that could explain a connection NO ONE CAN. Yet, there's times where it does feel real in a sense. I match my LIBRA sign a lot. But, like other things, are they just common archetypes varied enough to be relatable to a dozen types of people.

There's also a selection bias going on there. Let's say that every astrological sign is vague enough that it would mostly match 1/3 of the people on Earth. So what happens to the 2/3 of people who don't match? Nothing, they just ignore astrology and keep it moving.

But the 1/3 who do match, they start getting into astrology and talking to other people about astrology. And they find out that EVERYONE they talk to who is into astrology seems to match....without realizing that that's only because all the people who didn't match never got into astrology. Sometimes, they might notice that they match other signs too, not only their own. But they chalk that up to other influences, try and give themselves more than one sign, or just think that the fact they match their sign is good enough and don't care that they match some other signs too. If they really want it to be true, they might also exaggerate the ways they match their own sign and ignore the ways they match the other signs, or even mold their personality to act the way they "think" their sign is supposed to act.


I know someone who is a Tarot card reader. It's the exact same shyt. Just random fukking cards in a random order, but give them vague generalized attributes and you can apply it to anything in anyone's life.

 

[re'up]

There's also a selection bias going on there. Let's say that every astrological sign is vague enough that it would mostly match 1/3 of the people on Earth. So what happens to the 2/3 of people who don't match? Nothing, they just ignore astrology and keep it moving.

But the 1/3 who do match, they start getting into astrology and talking to other people about astrology. And they find out that EVERYONE they talk to who is into astrology seems to match....without realizing that that's only because all the people who didn't match never got into astrology. Sometimes, they might notice that they match other signs too, not only their own. But they chalk that up to other influences, try and give themselves more than one sign, or just think that the fact they match their sign is good enough and don't care that they match some other signs too. If they really want it to be true, they might also exaggerate the ways they match their own sign and ignore the ways they match the other signs, or even mold their personality to act the way they "think" their sign is supposed to act.


I know someone who is a Tarot card reader. It's the exact same shyt. Just random fukking cards in a random order, but give them vague generalized attributes and you can apply it to anything in anyone's life.

The cognitive biases are an important and invaluable foundation that can center your perspective and unravel a lot of everyday bullshyt that people traffic in. That was one of the most useful things I learned in school.

The tarot card is what you said, but also the ability to read people instantly and closely, and also one of the key aspects is they WENT TO A TAROT CAR READER. which means part of them wants to believe. an easy sell in other words.

There's a "pattern" that I see with myself and fire sign women, but again, the pattern is likely based more on their backgrounds plus mine, socioeconomics and other things I find attractive, certain body types, tattoos, implants, rather than an astrological sign.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

That's just selection bias and the normal human tendency to latch onto patterns whether or not they're even there. You're told that a sign follows a certain pattern, so you notice the times when it happens, and ignore/forget all the other times when it didn't.

There isn't a single physical process by which a "sign" could have an impact on a person's personality, nor is there the slightest scientific evidence that it happens. And the funniest thing is that the constellations actually shift position over time, so what people claim is their zodiac sign doesn't even fit which constellation is in the sky anymore. The date cutoffs are COMPLETELY arbitrary with no actual correspondence to reality at all.

Why your zodiac sign is probably wrong

The science of astronomy is now at odds with one of the basic organizing principles in astrology – the dates of the zodiac.

www.astronomy.com

Your 'star sign' doesn't match your real zodiac constellation

You might be surprised to know the "star signs" in your newspaper don't match up with the actual constellations in the sky. This is why.

www.abc.net.au

Zodiac signs are off by a month, expert says

Hey there, what's your sign? Are you sure about that? It seems that many of us may not be the Leos and Geminis we thought we were, thanks to a wobble in the earth's axis.

www.ctvnews.ca

I don't think that the constellations drive the zodiac.

I think the time of the year drives the zodiac.

Don't almost all plants and animals react to the seasons?

I would say people born in this month tend to act this way.

The physical zodiac signs in the sky do not match what we currently use, and there's even a 13th one that we don't talk about. But I don't think that the stars are driving this.

You don't tend toward females of a certain sign? You never noticed that women of the same sign tend to behave similarly?

That's why I know it's a real thing. I'm Earth. Fire sign women always have that firey attitude in the sack. Water signs can work but can be tough. I can't even relate to air signs hardly at all.

 

[Kiyoshi-Dono]

Ladies...

If a man tells you he believes in astrology, there are two possibilities:

1. He's conning you. He's trying to get in your pants, sell you some tarot cards, or both.

2. He's a complete fukking idiot.

But y’all believe in a white nikka in the sky
Who rides on a cloud delivering blessings and died for your sins

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I don't think that the constellations drive the zodiac.

I think the time of the year drives the zodiac.

Don't almost all plants and animals react to the seasons?

I would say people born in this month tend to act this way.

The seasons are completely different depending on where you live. Astrological signs were developed in Babylon in 500 BC (Iraq), a desert locale that is hot as fukk, never snows except in the mountains, and rarely rains. Why would the impact of a late April in Baghdad (dry with highs surpassing 90) be the same as the impact of a late April in Minneapolis (beginning of spring with lots of rain and highs in the low 50s)?

Not to mention that the seasons even in one place change dramatically from year to year. In one year spring will basically start in March, the next year there will be a massive snowstorm for a week in April. How could you predict what any one child's experience will be on any one date in one year?

In fact, especially in modern society, the season that a child is born in is barely relevant because they're kept inside almost all the time regardless. That's WAY different from the past where kids were exposed to the elements more. The weather at the moment of your birth is probably the LEAST relevant weather now, since you'll spend way more time outside later in your life than you do when you're a newborn.

You don't tend toward females of a certain sign?

My wife, my previous biggest crush before my wife, and my longest term girlfriend were all born in different months (none of them adjacent).

Once again, you're cherry-picking. You only notice the girlfriends who are born in the same month, and you might be the 1 in 10 guys who randomly happens to date women born in a certain month. Because it randomly lines up for you, you get hooked to the idea, and you ignore the people it doesn't work for.

You never noticed that women of the same sign tend to behave similarly?

I have no clue what the sign is of women I know lol. But there isn't a single aspect of astrology that's ever been proven in double-blind tests. There are thousands of thousands of behavioral studies and most of them take birthdate data - if women born at different times of year actually behaved similarly, it would have been proven statistically a long time ago.

 

[Scaaar]

There's also a selection bias going on there. Let's say that every astrological sign is vague enough that it would mostly match 1/3 of the people on Earth. So what happens to the 2/3 of people who don't match? Nothing, they just ignore astrology and keep it moving.

But the 1/3 who do match, they start getting into astrology and talking to other people about astrology. And they find out that EVERYONE they talk to who is into astrology seems to match....without realizing that that's only because all the people who didn't match never got into astrology. Sometimes, they might notice that they match other signs too, not only their own. But they chalk that up to other influences, try and give themselves more than one sign, or just think that the fact they match their sign is good enough and don't care that they match some other signs too. If they really want it to be true, they might also exaggerate the ways they match their own sign and ignore the ways they match the other signs, or even mold their personality to act the way they "think" their sign is supposed to act.


I know someone who is a Tarot card reader. It's the exact same shyt. Just random fukking cards in a random order, but give them vague generalized attributes and you can apply it to anything in anyone's life.

You're preaching too much truth in this. Most people that are into astrology only follow it on a surface level to try to explain occurrences in their life (good or bad) with astrology to disassociate themselves with the outcome. It's basically a mental get out of jail card that women play to excuse them for poor decisions. The worst are the ones that mold their personalities around a sign

 

[wild100sboy]

And now it seems like they are breaking it down even further. “Oh you a June Cancer. I’m a july
Cancer so we might not work.” wtf does this even mean