MalikX
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That perimeter oriented team was the best defense the NBA has seen in recent memory
They held the Lakers below 100 points in all five games that Finals
This Warriors squad just let the Cavs score 137 on them
2001 LAKERS or this 2017 Warriors team? Who u got?
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That perimeter oriented team was the best defense the NBA has seen in recent memory
They held the Lakers below 100 points in all five games that Finals
This Warriors squad just let the Cavs score 137 on them
We can say Kobe and Shaq combine for 55-62ppg, where is the other 50-60ppg coming from?
In 2001 Kobe didn't get to the line "every time he wants" against Eric Snow, Aaron McKie and rookie Raja Bell, please tell me you're saying those guys are better than the Warriors perimeter players.
That perimeter oriented team was the best defense the NBA has seen in recent memory
They held the Lakers below 100 points in all five games that Finals
This Warriors squad just let the Cavs score 137 on them
The Cavs hit 24 threes
The Lakers allowed a 6'0 guy to put 48 on them, but Curry, KD and Klay wouldn't cook em?
See how that argument works?
Saysumthinfunnymike
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First, the game is officiated differently now anyway. Kobe is going to the line off 3-point attempts where a defender doesn't touch him
He gets to play by the same rules Harden plays by. Secondly, the Cavs aren't even playing that well. Look, if they manage the clock they win game 3 and they made 12 3s, shot 44%. LeBron and Kyrie got to the basket every single time. Warriors have zero rim protection, zero inside presence. I don't see how Kobe and Shaq don't go WILD
First, the game is officiated differently now anyway. Kobe is going to the line off 3-point attempts where a defender doesn't touch him
Secondly, the Cavs aren't even playing that well. Look, if they manage the clock they win game 3 and they made 12 3s, shot 44%. LeBron and Kyrie got to the basket every single time. Warriors have zero rim protection, zero inside presence. I don't see how Kobe and Shaq don't go WILD
Kobe played under these rules during his prime and didn't get to the line every single time, cot damn beloved. Yall act like Kobe played 30 years ago.
Bruh I'm not arguing that point, the Cavs can spread teams out but they have a lot of games where those shots aren't falling, the difference is the shots are always there.. the warriors defense is very much overrated, we just saw last game Love go 1-9 and why? Was it because the Warriors were doing something different? No, it's because open shots didn't fall.
But back to the original point, Shaq can't be dealt with we went over that. How is Kobe being dealt with? This is a guy who was averaging 30+ in the mid 2000s.. in 2017 you have Harden averaging 29. Kobe is far superior. How would he be contained, I don't see it.
Kobe...after missing a season dropped 44 in 3 quarters on Klays head in 2014! 11/1/14 never 4get! The Rusty guy with no lift, lol.
Yeah... warriors won that game. But Kobe was a shell at that point.
Saysumthinfunnymike
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Kobe played under these rules during his prime and didn't get to the line every single time, cot damn beloved. Yall act like Kobe played 30 years ago.
Did you see what happened these past couple years? These aren't real numbers. I love IT but he ain't no damn 29 point scorer. He is breathed on and he's at the line. Harden trips over his own feet and he's at the line. Everyone's numbers exploded and it's not just because of the 3-point shot and even if we want to single out the 3-point shot a guys on that Laker team had the range, they would improve drastically if that's what was needed.
Breh, yall say things that fly in face of what is actually happening. This year, teams only took 23 freethrows a game, in Kobe's best scoring year teams took 26 freethrows a game.
Warriors are a gimmick team.
Its an insult to compare the 2001 Lakers to them.
The 2002 Kings would run this garbage team off the court.
02 Kings >>> 17 Warriors
Thank you for coming in with your crazy ass opinions, it makes it much better for others to see how out of touch they are when you're on their side of things.
Curry is the 4th best Warrior, right?
Saysumthinfunnymike
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Breh, yall say things that fly in face of what is actually happening. This year, teams only took 23 freethrows a game, in Kobe's best scoring year teams took 26 freethrows a game.
Maaan I watch Celtics games regularly. I watch plenty of Rockets games too. I'm not saying "everyone" is at the line all the time. But they are.
MalikX
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They'd have to throw Zaza/McGee (
) and Draymond on Shaq. Leaving Kobe in single coverage on Klay who not gonna stop him. And either Fox, Horry or Fisher would constantly be open. Phil would be a dikk and just hammer the ball down to Shaq every play until Zaza fouled out. Then they start playing soft defense and it's game over. The C matchup is HEAVILY slighted towards LA. The PF matchup is a wash. Dray aint better than Horry. The SF matchup goes to GS with Durant over Fox. The SG matchup goes to LA with Kobe. And Steph would get the better of Fisher. This matchup would come down to whether Steph & Durant had enough firepower to off-balance Shaq's dominance and Kobe's free reign to drop 30 due to the gravity Shaq drew his way. And oh yea, forget all them pretty layups and finesse finger rolls GS likes to do....a couple collisions with Shaq would have them reconsidering that.
I love how you cite Kobe's finals stats when the strategy was to play through Shaq.
For that entire playoffs he averaged 29/7/6 on 49% shooting. That's better numbers than Durant and Steph this playoffs while playing a slower pace and against better defensive teams.
2001 Kobe would butt rape the Warriors even worse than Kyrie right now. Add 2001 Shaq and this would not be a fair fight.
Lakers would sweep. 4-0.
Co-sign.
I don't even know why we're talking about the 2001 Lakers.
2009-10 Lakers beat this years Warriors 4-1. And that's me being kind and giving the Warriors one game where they hit a bunch of 3s.
MalikX
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The Cavs hit 24 threes
The Lakers allowed a 6'0 guy to put 48 on them, but Curry, KD and Klay wouldn't cook em?
See how that argument works?
How did that series end again?
Golden State has never played a big man as dominant as Shaq. They'd be as lost out there as the Bulls would've been playing Hakeem. Curry, KD & Klay are cool but, who's guarding Kobe & Shaq? And while Shaq is manhandling 2-3 different Warriors players, who is stopping Kobe from dropping 30 a game? You also ASSUME that Golden State would still be maintaining their high octane offense when they gotta guard a behomoth for 48 minutes on the other end.