Alex Jones is fukin crazy WTF!!

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Here some real proven statistics about guns.

People who keep guns in their homes are at greater risk of homicide in the home than people who do not.

15 of the 25 worst mass shootings in the last 50 years took place in the United States.

More guns tend to mean more homicide.

States with stricter gun control laws have fewer deaths from gun-related violence.

But no we don't have a gun problem in America :rudy:
 
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Well, shuffling guns across state lines is a problem for stricter states trying to keep them out. But I'd wager more of the problem lies within the state of Illinois itself. Sure, Indiana may be a pipeline of sorts but the guns are already in Illinois. Unless you could ban transferring guns, the issue of gun transfer is impossible to stop. There aren't enough drones in the skies or cameras on posts to stop a person from giving something to a friend and vice versa. Guns from shows/stores can be traced to some degree. Guns originally in the streets (self-made, stolen, etc.) are the bigger problem. Many of these Chicago "cheap pieces" are hard to track.

There are "braver" people in more tolerate states. But what I find interesting is many "heroic" stories go untold. The tragedies are told and get front page coverage. A heroic story can be ignored or get a back page story and few talk of it. If I were a criminal, I would love the stricter states. And if things like the NY story of listing gun owners became widespread, I'd simply go to any house not on the list and have happy hunting/criminal activity time.

No easy answer for guns. But Chicago is probably an example of what not to do.

But there is an easy answer. Gun reform. Ensure there's accountability from the manufacturers to the sellers to the American citizen

To solely blame the protagonist in different crimes that all share the same choice of weapon is cowardly and does nothing to address the problem. All it does is funnel more money to the businesses that profit from the prison-industrial complex. That irrational stance could also be applied to the banking housing system's victims....blame the housing borrower and not the predatory lender
-How about our students are performing low in STEM as compared to their counter-parts in other countries, blame the students and parents, not the poor public education system and not the lack of funding to initiatives that promote STEM appreciation and interest to ALL schools in ALL communities
 

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I was at work.. Never actually got a chance to watch this till now

Gotdamn :snoop: that idiot jus made portrayed the image many ppl feel is the average ignorant redneck hostile retarded American

So much ignorance I don't even know where to start

I feel America is doomed.. Due to idiots like this and people who feel like that idiot

Jesus Christ wat an idiot :dead:
 

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Gun control hasn't done a thing for chicago. Chicago is one of the stricter gun control cities and yet how often do you hear of people getting killed over there? Taking guns out of the hands of legal owners is a bad thing, because criminals will find guns on an illegal market to use for their crimes. Despite these 'mass shootings' we've been having, you know who is the greatest purveyor of 'mass killings'? You know who makes the mass shootings we've been having look like a drop in an ocean? That's right, governments. Governments throughout history have proven to be infinitely more dangerous than some lone loon blasting away. Stalin killed what, 10 to 20 million of his own people?
 

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Where do the guns on the street come from?


All illegal guns were manufactured and sold in this country as legal weapons. Somewhere along the line a criminal got a hold of the gun and it just magicaly turns into a illegal gun:beli:

Why not try to prevent the guns from getting into the hands of criminals?

The only way to completely stop a criminal is to shut down the black market. But that is like destroying the black market on music. You can only crack down on it and limit its flow. Plus as mentioned earlier, stopping person-to-person (peer) transfer is next to impossible. I am in favor of bringing some gun shows up to par. Outside of that, stores are legit because you're checked in the store while buying the firearms.

Ironically, Operation Fast & Furious and other gun runner programs had some weapons enter the USA and some less than savory guys were equipped as a result. Besides the local black market, it sucks when programs like this happen, go defunct and only pile on already bad problems in its wake.

I am in favor of stopping criminals from getting guns. I am also in favor of law-abiding citizens being armed because criminals will not follow the laws (hence, they are criminals) and defending themselves should some idiot try attacking them.
 

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hahahahahahaha:ohhh::ehh::umad:

they played Alex(he let himself though)by making him look like the archetype of the "raving lunatic conspiracy theorist" sort on national tv,polite society will laugh&omit it off as fear mongering,even though he was right&sonned Piers

the evil cabal don't give a fukk anymore,they rubbin it in the collective grills,no need to dig anymore,they laughin at the zoo they created
 

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Are you serious? :wtf:


Chicago already has a gun ban.:hmm:

I'm looking at the municipal code for the city of chicago, and there's no ban on guns breh.

There's a ban on assault rifles and magazines holding more than 12 clips, but not a ban on guns.
 

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Gun control hasn't done a thing for chicago. Chicago is one of the stricter gun control cities and yet how often do you hear of people getting killed over there? Taking guns out of the hands of legal owners is a bad thing, because criminals will find guns on an illegal market to use for their crimes. Despite these 'mass shootings' we've been having, you know who is the greatest purveyor of 'mass killings'? You know who makes the mass shootings we've been having look like a drop in an ocean? That's right, governments. Governments throughout history have proven to be infinitely more dangerous than some lone loon blasting away. Stalin killed what, 10 to 20 million of his own people?

Strict gun laws mean in Chicago mean absolutely nothing if you can just drive outside the city and buy guns without any accountability. Currently a criminal can just go to a gun show and purchase hundreds of weapons without a backround check or registering the weapons, he can then turn around and sell them on the black market.

Doesn't it make sense to at least try to close some of those loopholes?

If the American goverment decides to turn on the people. Having a gun will not help you at all. They have tanks, drones, nukes, missiles, bombs, and deadly chemicals if they really wanted to get us, they could and there is nothing you and your pistol can do about it.
 

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It was a rhetorical question

But I didn't know Chicago had a ban on guns.:wtf:. That shyt don't make no sense

Chicago doesn't have a ban on guns. There's a ban on assault weapons and magazine with more than 12 rounds but not on guns. Check Chapter 8-20 of the Municipal Code of Chicago.
 

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Tdot.. till the death of me
hahahahahahaha:ohhh::ehh::umad:

they played Alex(he let himself though)by making him look like the archetype of the "raving lunatic conspiracy theorist" sort on national tv,polite society will laugh&omit it off as fear mongering,even though he was right&sonned Piers

the evil cabal don't give a fukk anymore,they rubbin it in the collective grills,no need to dig anymore,they laughin at the zoo they created

yeah..the other dude played it right...remain calm and let that loose canon gun collector go off on one..

alex was too stupid to realize he made himself look like an idiot..and im sure his many followers would egg him on for what a good job he did..so he will probably never fully digest the level of stupidity he displayed on that show.

calm rational human..doesnt want guns or violence...vs barbaric american advocating guns and assault rifles :laugh:
 

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The only way to completely stop a criminal is to shut down the black market. But that is like destroying the black market on music. You can only crack down on it and limit its flow. Plus as mentioned earlier, stopping person-to-person (peer) transfer is next to impossible. I am in favor of bringing some gun shows up to par. Outside of that, stores are legit because you're checked in the store while buying the firearms.

Ironically, Operation Fast & Furious and other gun runner programs had some weapons enter the USA and some less than savory guys were equipped as a result. Besides the local black market, it sucks when programs like this happen, go defunct and only pile on already bad problems in its wake.

I am in favor of stopping criminals from getting guns. I am also in favor of law-abiding citizens being armed because criminals will not follow the laws (hence, they are criminals) and defending themselves should some idiot try attacking them.

In the interview, he brought up the 50,000 murders that happened in Mexico by the drug cartels. What he didn't mention that the Mexican cartel use American guns for all those murders. There's 300 million guns in this country already. At what point will more guns solve the problem? 600 million? 1 billion? There's more guns in the us than iPhones sold around the world. Think about that for a second breh
 

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Despite all that equipment, we still haven't 'won' the war in Afghanistan. Neither did the Russians. A resisting populace is MUCH harder to take over than a disarmed one. You disarm LEGAL gun owners and you place the power in the hands of government and in the hands of criminals who will still find a way to obtain guns illegally. They'd simply purchase them from black markets who've obtained them overseas.

There are millions of gun owners in this nation and yet there aren't millions of criminals blasting guns at each other every day. Why is that? How about we don't punish responsible owners for the actions of irresponsible users who aren't even likely using legal guns?

The violent crime rate has actually been trending DOWN. Guess what, when you don't flood the media with violence and you actually provide jobs and improve living conditions, people don't have an incentive to go blasting each other.
 
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