Alexi Lalas calls out the USMNT

[Big Blue]

and how do we have these bums still playing?




Wheres the next generation? brehs was this our Golden Generation?

Got a lot of talent coming up. U-20 made it to the QF in the World Cup and lost in ET

Pulsic
Hyndman
Carter-Vickers
Horvath
Miazga
Palmer-Brown (just got sent to Man. City)
McKennie

We can't be successful with most of starting XI being from the MLS. Period.

 

[mastermind]

Got a lot of talent coming up. U-20 made it to the QF in the World Cup and lost in ET

Pulsic
Hyndman
Carter-Vickers
Horvath
Miazga
Palmer-Brown (just got sent to Man. City)
McKennie

We can't be successful with most of starting XI being from the MLS. Period.

Nah

10 years ago the same thing happened. A lot of us older brehs were hyping up Bradley and Altidore as they were among the stars on that team. Freddy Adu, Sal Zizzo, Danny Szetela, Robbie Rogers, etc. That group beat Brazil team with David Luiz, Pato after he signed with Milan and looked like he was next, Willian, and Marcelo. Then they beat an Uruguay team with Luis Suarez and Edinson Cavani in the knockout stages.

My point is u20 success don't mean shyt. Pulisic is the truth but your best player shouldn't be 18.

 

[beejus]

Never in my mind would I think I'd say the world, "I agree with The Red Headed Menace," but he really did nail that.

Sunil Gulati at the top needs to go. The whole pay to play infrastructure in this country is the problem. To play competitive we need to be bringing in the best players and have them taught at a very young age by the best coaches we possibly can.

The MLS has improved the quality of play in this country. People don't want to admit it, but it has helped. Problem is the MLS is also helping every other soccer country in the region (minus Mexico and Liga MX). The smaller Concacaf countries players are growing to be better players playing in a tougher league then the leagues in their native lands. With that said though. The MLS is nothing more then a bottom feeder league for the bigger leagues around the world.

I do see that the US is trying to get stronger in the youth development. Most MLS teams now have academies where kids come and play against other top teams in the country and region. The Seattle Sounders U-14 Academy team just won the 2017 Youdan Trophy in Sheffield, England which hosts some of the big name teams through out the world. My son turns 4 on Wednesday and I'm about to try and get him enrolled in the Sounders academy as early as I can. He's been play with me for a few years now.

Got a lot of talent coming up. U-20 made it to the QF in the World Cup and lost in ET

Pulsic
Hyndman
Carter-Vickers
Horvath
Miazga
Palmer-Brown (just got sent to Man. City)
McKennie

We can't be successful with most of starting XI being from the MLS. Period.

Agree 100%. Was going to name drop most of those players and say we have some very young talented players playing overseas. Now we just need to start seeing more and more of them replacing guys like Graham Zusi and Michael Bradley.

 

[Bboystyle]

they ain't going to help you either, because they don't even do shyt themselves. They're the same level as the US, neither one of you can get past the last 16 in the world cup. And generally Mexican players fall off by the time they go past mid 20's anyway.


Yeah I know the US got to the QF in the 2002 world cup, but that was 15 years ago. And you still haven't improved since upon that.

which nation u rep? England?

 

[Black Magisterialness]

get all these soft cacs outa here


Time to start importing talent, find other countries young bench players and give em the chance to live the american dream

basically get black kids involved...

Things would change overnight

I'm working on it....seriously....by 2020 I'm looking to have at the very least an after-school program in place that can perhaps grow into an academy...still wold have to deal with the BS NCAA...but more kids from the hood would be involved.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

which nation u rep? England?

For my sins.

And still got to a QF more recent than Mexico & US have

But @mastermind & @concise will tell you've I regularly shyt on the structure of English football, not much so in the past 3 years as I was hiatus .

The best crop of technical English talent will be coming over the next 5-10 years and the foundations of such go back to overhauling the system 10 years or so ago and also foreign money being invested in the youth academies such as Soton (they started before investment), Chelsea & Citeh. The problem in England the game is too money orientated to allow the players to progress unless you have the coach with the right philosophy, like a Van Gaal or Poch, who is willing to give them a chance. Also you have 18-19 y/o's earning 1m-1.5m a season when they havent done shyt to earn that, and only reason why get that salary is to stop them from joining someone else.

1st World Problems.

 

[Jmare007]

Juat like Portugal humiliated us in 2014 and England humiliated us in 2010 or Spain in 2009.


If US,was in Uefa it stands to reason soccer would be a popular sport.

If y'all were in UEFA you would be playing Faroe Islands, Georgia, Andorra and Latvia. If you get unlucky you would have to face 1 "power house". It wouldn't be much tougher than CONCACAF.

CONMEBOL though... y'all ain't ready for that slaughterhouse.


But it doesn't matter anymore, with so many teams being able to qualify for Qatar and beyond, there wont be much trouble for any team decent enough to get to the WC

 

[LurkMoar]

Agreed

Go to to Cali, Texas and South Florida.

Get Mexican, South American, Haitian ect. Kids.

Put them in an official USMS Academy and go from there.

They need to stop propping up these suburb soccer mom raised players.

Unless they imported Euro white boys




Its a wrap for these MLS cacs

 

[Bboystyle]

For my sins.

And still got to a QF more recent than Mexico & US have

But @mastermind & @concise will tell you've I regularly shyt on the structure of English football, not much so in the past 3 years as I was hiatus .

The best crop of technical English talent will be coming over the next 5-10 years and the foundations of such go back to overhauling the system 10 years or so ago and also foreign money being invested in the youth academies such as Soton (they started before investment), Chelsea & Citeh. The problem in England the game is too money orientated to allow the players to progress unless you have the coach with the right philosophy, like a Van Gaal or Poch, who is willing to give them a chance. Also you have 18-19 y/o's earning 1m-1.5m a season when they havent done shyt to earn that, and only reason why get that salary is to stop them from joining someone else.

1st World Problems.

Cool. Yea England overrated as fukk and their league feasts off of foreigners. Been waiting for them to breed some real talent

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

If y'all were in UEFA you would be playing Faroe Islands, Georgia, Andorra and Latvia. If you get unlucky you would have to face 1 "power house". It wouldn't be much tougher than CONCACAF.

CONMEBOL though... y'all ain't ready for that slaughterhouse.


But it doesn't matter anymore, with so many teams being able to qualify for Qatar and beyond, there wont be much trouble for any team decent enough to get to the WC

They could have every country in the world involved and the Germans still making the Semi's at a minimum.

 

[concise]

The MLS has improved the quality of play in this country. People don't want to admit it, but it has helped. Problem is the MLS is also helping every other soccer country in the region (minus Mexico and Liga MX). The smaller Concacaf countries players are growing to be better players playing in a tougher league then the leagues in their native lands.

Very underrated point.
Jack Warner knew what he was doing letting USA get in WC 1990.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Cool. Yea England overrated as fukk and their league feasts off of foreigners. Been waiting for them to breed some real talent

Look out for

Jadon Sancho
Mason Mount
Phil Foden
Angel Gomes
Ryan Sessegnon
Reiss Nelson
George Hirst
Marcus Edwards
The Willocks

These are who are cooking in the u17-20 age range at present

Hopefully a couple of these will make it and big time, just hope none of them become Ravel Morrison tbh

 

[KingHurst]

Look out for

Jadon Sancho
Mason Mount
Phil Foden
Angel Gomes
Ryan Sessegnon
Reiss Nelson
George Hirst
Marcus Edwards
The Willocks

These are who are cooking in the u17-20 age range at present

Hopefully a couple of these will make it and big time, just hope none of them become Ravel Morrison tbh

England is , was and will continue to be shyt stop selling smoke m8.

As for the US the players are shyt so they are playing about their level they are not underperforming. Also Costa Rica has better players that play in Europe Consistently like Ruiz,Campbell,Navas so in other words they have a golden generation and as soon as they get old they will be back to reality. The US is never gonna get anywhere with the college system in soccer it just doesn't work like that. I am from Uruguay and kids at 11 are already being trained like pros running miles,tactics,dieting and they form you to be a player meanwhile at that age and even older in the USA are being taught to play soccer by a math teacher

 

[THEANGEL&THEGAMBLER]

The problem is the US doesn't have a centralized system of sports development like other countries so It's difficult to change the system from the top when the coaching is bad. The hope for the moment is with the MLS academies but many are just beginning to establish proper youth setups. The only club with a somewhat established setup is FC Dallas.--> A Soccer Factory in Football's Heartland: 'It's Like It's Europe or Something'

 

[beejus]

The problem is the US doesn't have a centralized system of sports development like other countries so It's difficult to change the system from the top when the coaching is bad. The hope for the moment is with the MLS academies but many are just beginning to establish proper youth setups. The only club with a somewhat established setup is FC Dallas.--> A Soccer Factory in Football's Heartland: 'It's Like It's Europe or Something'

Agree. The academies are in the infant stages right now. I think in the long term they'll be beneficial to the sport. FC Dallas does seem to be putting out some quality youth players. Hoping the Sounders Academy can catch up.

Barca just recently announced plans to have an academy in Arizona for kids between the ages of 12-19. Will be interesting to see the longterm effects this has for both Barca and the USA.

Barcelona set to open academy in Casa Grande, Arizona