Amazon's HQ2 moving to Northern VA and NYC; 2/14: Amazon pulls out of NYC after public backlash!

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Exactly, the big reason why they would move a NYC is to be competitive in attracting elite level talent from a national/global perspective. They're not hiring state school grads for these 150k positions.
Thats ltierally false.

When all these companies move to the South like ATL, HOUSTON, CHARLOTTE they're hiring local talent.

Sure, SOME people relocate, but theres a reason its called HQ2...not HQ.
 

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i live in a city with gentrification but the thing NYC has over where I am is that NYC has way better zoning control. Yall can build more affordable housing than we can.
WHERE???

Do you live here? Do you see the developments that are happening in BK? Them shyts ain't affordable housing, they are LUXURY CONDOS

We're talking about 6 hipsters crammed into a 2 bedroom in Williamsburg type shyt...

Now imagine what would happen in Queens?

You're out of your depth :camby:
 

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Seen it in the heights for the last decade too. It's amazing having people cap for this nonsense like we don't see how this goes.
Theres a balance.

People dont want to move to SF/Seattle anymore.

Thats why TX, ATL, CLT, etc are booming right now.

Some of yall gotta see what these companies are seeing.

Even DMV needs NON-government affiliated jobs. Thats a major win for DC to hold down Amazon.
 

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Thats ltierally false.

When all these companies move to the South like ATL, HOUSTON, CHARLOTTE they're hiring local talent.

Sure, SOME people relocate, but theres a reason its called HQ2...not HQ.


You just said a bunch of nothing.:camby:

Why should NYC be subsiding a company that moving there to take advantage of its status and infrastructure as a global city.
 

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WHERE???

Do you live here? Do you see the developments that are happening in BK? Them shyts ain't affordable housing, they are LUXURY CONDOS

We're talking about 6 hipsters crammed into a 2 bedroom in Williamsburg type shyt...

Now imagine what would happen in Queens?

You're out of your depth :camby:
Son, i've seen F500 companies come to ATL, HOU, ATX, etc.

I KNOW PEOPLE LOCALLY AND PERSONALLY who have been hired. It has radically improved and diversified local economies and related industries.

Yes, "gentrification" happens, but the MAIN THING TO OPPOSE gentrification is GOVERNMENT ZONING LAWS to allow more low income housing...its a problem of housing scarcity...NOT high salaries.
 

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I work for a big 3 and I'll respectfully disagree. While it holds true for HQ or the primary campus, it just didn't hold for satellite and other campuses.

You'll see a lot of managers and higher level engineers/PMs/etc move to head up teams, But there will be a large amount of local talent who will be hired on. That will be a mixture of vendors, grads, and people moving back closer to home who moved out west previously. :manny:
i work in tech as well and see it all the time, this isn't some rinky dink 500 person satellite, 25k jobs is big and will attract tons of outside talent. a lot of people who don't want to go to the west coast will be applying for positions there, same way people do with google NY. even if it was mainly locals talent that all rushes to those jobs, that local talent is built from transplants who have moved to NY for high paying jobs and it creates a vaccum for more transplants to move to NY. it's silly to think these jobs somehow create opportunity for the just ok reputation SUNY grad as opposed to opening up another location for harvard/princeton grads who don't want to move to cali or seattle for a tech gig.



edit: there are actually a ton of people out here in silicon valley who'd move to NY in a heartbeat, they feel the amenities of NYC are worth the premium paid to live there as opposed to the ridiculous premium paid to live here (and outside of manhatttan, NYC is actually cheaper now)
 
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Whole Foods raising prices now too..

Bezos is starting to look real shifty..

He's trying to build his own package delivery service cause FedEx and UPS are making a killing off his shyt but he's half assing it. He hired a contracter to do it and its been total shyt. The couriers have to fix their own trucks :mjlol: and they get paid $125 a day for 12 hour days :damn:

They have NO HEALTH INSURANCE :what:

One Amazon driver took a shyt on somebody's lawn

fukk outta here with that..

My friend works for Fed Ex and was looking into leavin for Amazon but he can't the shyt is actually worse then FedEx..

It's disgusting and scary
 

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Theres a balance.

People dont want to move to SF/Seattle anymore.

Thats why TX, ATL, CLT, etc are booming right now.

Some of yall gotta see what these companies are seeing.

Even DMV needs NON-government affiliated jobs. Thats a major win for DC to hold down Amazon.
Because they can't afford to! The rent there alone is more than some mortages!

And then places like Austin and Atlanta hit capacity, it will be the same thing! Long time residents and people who never had a shot, getting pushed out in the name of "business"

I see your clever ruse and I reject your deposit :camby:
 

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You just said a bunch of nothing.:camby:

Why should NYC be subsiding a company that moving there to take advantage of its status and infrastructure as a global city.
I've ALREADY SAID AMAZON PLAYED THEMSELVES BY NOT RENEGOTIATING.

IF YALL ARE GOING TO ATTACK ME, READ WHAT I SAY VERBATIM. DO NOT LIE ABOUT WHAT I'M SAYING SO LET ME BE FVCKING CLEAR!


  • the tax incentives were wrong
  • the lack of public investment were wrong
  • the lack of clarity about unionizing was wrong
  • the lack of incentives for local residents was wrong

but NYC should not have let Amazon leave.
 

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Because they can't afford to! The rent there alone is more than some mortages!

And then places like Austin and Atlanta hit capacity, it will be the same thing! Long time residents and people who never had a shot, getting pushed out in the name of "business"

I see your clever ruse and I reject your deposit :camby:
Do you not see me saying they should have renegotiated???????????????????????????????????

You're playing games my dude. Stop it.
 

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Exactly, the big reason why they would move a NYC is to be competitive in attracting elite level talent from a national/global perspective. They're not hiring state school grads for these 150k positions.
They'd move to NYC due to the concentration of business there, both for their retail and AWS/tech.

They also increase the ability to have their support/engineering teams work with the sun (East coast hours are still the busiest by far).

also to attract talent from NE schools.

Outside of young talent, most elite talent that's already established usually looks to work in places where there money goes further and they can start a family/buy a home.
 

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Thats kinda unfortunate because this ain't the 90s. You ain't gonna hustle off some random jobs like you used to. You need high skilled jobs in this day and age and NYC doesn't have those hardcore manufacturing or industrial zones they used to.

Theres a REASON Long Island City was the location for HQ2. That area was dead BECAUSE of a lack of economic growth.

I mean there are good random hustles and jobs here if you have connections. There's a lot of money to be made here. I could have another six cert salary if I wanted to work in several sectors. If we got the Amazon jobs tech would've still only made up like 10-15 precent of the city's workforce if I remember correctly. Also a lot of businesses would've popped up to support Amazons operations in the area. This a huge self goal.

Most of what would've been the campus are empty lost and outdated manufacturing buildings on their last legs and there are very few people that live in the immediate area.

The city still has a significant amount of manufacturing/industrial zones there's just few companies that warrant their use or further development. I've actually worked in several of them over the last decade and they've stuggled to find tenants.
 

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Do you not see me saying they should have renegotiated???????????????????????????????????

You're playing games my dude. Stop it.
If Amazon was about anything but pure bullshyt, they would have built that HQ.....UPSTATE NY

They could have built it in Westchester...then maybe I could reason that there would be people from White Plains, YO, The Bx maybe POSSIBLY eating off of it. People from further upstate moving down and helping to revitalize these places.

Not fukking Queens, smack dab in the middle of NYC, in arguably the most diverse part of the entire fukking city, where it would undoubtly force out long time residents, small businesses, and people who can barely afford to live there as it is.
 
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