Anybody on child support?

[MeachTheMonster]

50% of what? Are you going to make an argument or continue with your trolling bullshyt.

Again no one is claiming that. Like I swear you nikkas is acting ignorant in here.



There is no 50% line that can be drawn in all situations which is the real issue here. Not all situations are the same. But off top general bills should not be included IMO because that is something a responsible adult is responsible for anyway. Things like...

Rent
Utilities
Carnote
Car insurance
Groceries

No custodial(male or female) should expect their support from the other parent to cover 50% of those things. They could possibly see an increase a couple of those things, but not enough of an increase to warrant the other parent pay half of that expense.

Now parents should be responsible for 50% of

Clothes
Shoes
School expenses
Extracurricular activities
Camps
Grooming

What a lot of you are missing is CS payments in most situations are turning into 100% funding for the child and the female isn't having to use her own income to pay her half or 50% because she doesn't have to.

Now my situation.

My childs mother still stays with her own mother. The only bills she has is her car note, and car insurance. Should she use the money she receives from me to pay half of those things? She doesn't, but its the argument some of you are making here. She splurges on my kid with the CS payments monthly, because she can, she basically has no bills. Her and her mothers schedule allow for daycare to not be an issue either. So in my case, my payment in effect is 100% of what takes care of my child. It doesn't bother me much because I at least know where all the money is going, but she could still stand to put some up for a college fund but instead of arguing with her about it I just started one myself.

Your getting it all wrong. Child support isn't awarded considering the mothers total expenses. In most states child support is calculated by adding both incomes then taking 20% of that amount and designating it as "childcare expenses" then each parent is responsible for half of that amount.

 

[Numpsay]

Your getting it all wrong. Child support isn't awarded considering the mothers total expenses. In most states child support is calculated by adding both incomes then taking 20% of that amount and designating it as "childcare expenses" then each parent is responsible for half of that amount.

In what state do you live in? In Texas its 20% or what the judge or mediator sets regardless as to the mothers income. The mothers income isn't even considered a factor in Texas.

 

[Wild self]

How are you a good dad if you rarely see your kids? there is no Wanting to raise your kids but not wanting to go broke. Are you stupid?? Kids cost money. If you cant afford a kid dont have one. Who whines about a check when you dont have to feed, bathe, supervise, chauffeur, clean up their vomit and diarrhea, get up at 3am when their sick, help them with their homework, do their laundry, etc.

I meant is that the reason why fathers rarely see their kids is because the courts force them to stay away from the kids, outside of their limited visiting time in the weekends. Yeah kids cost money, but mothers gotta step up and not rely on government to fight their selfish battles and take care of their damn kid without drama. Work with the father outside the court system and do so for as long as the kid grows up, if you claim to be a good mother.

@ women so bitter that they gotta use the court system to fight their selfish battles. Wish some of yall fathers seen this shyt right there. They would disown their "precious" daughters if they found out what is in their mindset. I know I would if I found out that my daughter grew up to be a selfish greedy lady that uses good men for money and nothing more.

 

[STAN JONES]

nikkas don't even feel like they should be responsible to keep food in their child's mouth, all because they don't live with them

They shouldnt IMO

its certain stuff like food that the person with custody should be responsible for

Trying to spilt every little thing 50/50 is just petty

 

[Rawtid]

50% of what? Are you going to make an argument or continue with your trolling bullshyt.

Again no one is claiming that. Like I swear you nikkas is acting ignorant in here.



There is no 50% line that can be drawn in all situations which is the real issue here. Not all situations are the same. But off top general bills should not be included IMO because that is something a responsible adult is responsible for anyway. Things like...

Rent
Utilities
Carnote
Car insurance
Groceries

No custodial(male or female) should expect their support from the other parent to cover 50% of those things. They could possibly see an increase a couple of those things, but not enough of an increase to warrant the other parent pay half of that expense.

Now parents should be responsible for 50% of

Clothes
Shoes
School expenses
Extracurricular activities
Camps
Grooming

What a lot of you are missing is CS payments in most situations are turning into 100% funding for the child and the female isn't having to use her own income to pay her half or 50% because she doesn't have to.

Now my situation.

My childs mother still stays with her own mother. The only bills she has is her car note, and car insurance. Should she use the money she receives from me to pay half of those things? She doesn't, but its the argument some of you are making here. She splurges on my kid with the CS payments monthly, because she can, she basically has no bills. Her and her mothers schedule allow for daycare to not be an issue either. So in my case, my payment in effect is 100% of what takes care of my child. It doesn't bother me much because I at least know where all the money is going, but she could still stand to put some up for a college fund but instead of arguing with her about it I just started one myself.

Son, I personally never said the non custodial parent should be paying half of those things. At the same time, I wouldn't want my kids living poorly.

So no one pays the mother to watch the child? Does your BM have a savings account or retirement plan? How about a 529 for college savings? Does she have life insurance? How she just uses that money to blow is beyond me, but that's not my business and I'm just assuming anyway. Your money could be put to better use to stabilize your child's future rather than just blowing it. What happens when she stops living with her mother and actually has to be an adult in life? You think your money won't go towards rent? It's not going towards rent because she doesn't have rent to pay.

 

[Rockstar Mom]

OK let me tell u what the fukk I do. And why I feel the way I feel.

My expenses for MY child.

Haircuts every 2 weeks
Doctors visits every other month with copay
School supplies
Food(weekly)
Insurance payments(monthly)
In just 3 weeks my son went from a 12 to 13 in shoes
In a months he's grown out of ALL his clothes
He needs a new wardrobe
He needs summer clothes
Fall clothes
Winter clothes
Medications for when/if he gets sick
Extra curricular activities
Camp this summer
Karate on the weekend
He has a saving account
He has a college fund that my parents opened

Someone plz tell me how a measly $400 in CS covers even half of that.

A child is a monthly bill. No way around it. There's no way you can NOT spend money on/for your child.
Yes my sons father is responsible for half of ALL that.

And he does it with no problems. Why? Cuz he's a father and that's his job.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

In what state do you live in? In Texas its 20% or what the judge or mediator sets regardless as to the mothers income. The mothers income isn't even considered a factor in Texas.

So do you think 20% of your income is unfair?

Don't you think the mother is spending more than 20% of her income on the child?

I know I spend way more than 20% of my income on my kids. Hell I'm lucky if I get to spend 20% of my income on myself. And that's not even talking about providing all the things a child needs beyond money.

 

[Rockstar Mom]

They shouldnt IMO

its certain stuff like food that the person with custody should be responsible for

Trying to spilt every little thing 50/50 is just petty

So u don't worry about whether your kid has food or not? Just cuz he doesn't live with u?

 

[Numpsay]

Son, I personally never said the non custodial parent should be paying half of those things. At the same time, I wouldn't want my kids living poorly.

So no one pays the mother to watch the child? Does your BM have a savings account or retirement plan? How about a 529 for college savings? Does she have life insurance? How she just uses that money to blow is beyond me, but that's not my business and I'm just assuming anyway. Your money could be put to better use to stabilize your child's future rather than just blowing it. What happens when she stops living with her mother and actually has to be an adult in life? You think your money won't go towards rent? It's not going towards rent because she doesn't have rent to pay.

I know what you said but you seem to agree with the 50% line that is being argued in here. Since no one on that side of the argument wanted to break it down I did.

If and when she decides to live on her own I know for a fact some of my money will be used towards rent because I know her salary couldn't support it. I have no qualms with that, all I'm am saying is it shouldn't be expected that she should be able to use have of the money she receives from me as rent on her own apartment. As a responsible adult she should be able to pay general bills on her own without depending on money from her kids. That is all I am saying. If the situation was reverse I wouldn't expect a check from my childs mother to help pay the bills of the household. I'm the adult that is what I am responsible for.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I meant is that the reason why fathers rarely see their kids is because the courts force them to stay away from the kids, outside of their limited visiting time in the weekends.

men are entitled to equal custody of their kids if they want. No court is preventing good men from seeing their kids.

 

[Rockstar Mom]

I don't beast on my sons father for money.

I pay for everything upfront regardless, since my son is with me majority of the time. So when I ask for the money, yea its basically like he owes me. We both come up even.

 

[Atlrocafella]

Man sounds like some of y'all nikkaz should of knocked up finacially well off women instead of these broke biscuit head hoes.

 

[STAN JONES]

So u don't worry about whether your kid has food or not? Just cuz he doesn't live with u?

My kids live with me but if you cant afford to feed the kids you shouldn't have custody IMO

When you start trying to get a nikka to pay for food, rent, gas & electricity etc. thats just petty to me.Like I said the person with custody should be responsible for that type of shyt

 

[Sharp]

It's crazy for me to talk to people about this who don't have kids. You can't be an expert on something you haven't been thru

I agree that CS can't cover the full expenses of raising a kid, and there are lots of men who are on CS before they refuse to take care of their kids.

But that's not all men. And we're no longer talking about those men, so dead that

CS is used as a weapon and judges are well aware of it, but it goes on because they do get a cut. (Bet u didn't know that)

I'm not against CS, but as a woman, if you take a man to court for CS, that's it. Stop complaining.. you got whatever the courts felt you deserved. You probably could have gotten more money if you worked with him. And if you couldn't of, then with CS, you got more than you would have gotten.

I be chillin... no stress.... my baby mother is terrified to ask me for any type of money simply because I pay CS. She knows I can tell her to kiss my ass, and there's nothing she can say or do to make me give her more bread.

But as a stand up dude, I take care of my kid out of my pocket because I want to. There's no pressure. Take the CS out. After a year of paying it, it doesn't even phase you, unless you're in a messed up financial situation. I'm blessed to have a good job. I know dudes who have it rough and have to sleep on their moms sofa because of CS.

It's real out chea.

 

[Rockstar Mom]

My kids live with me but if you cant afford to feed the kids you shouldn't have custody IMO

When you start trying to get a nikka to pay for food, rent, gas & electricity etc. thats just petty to me.Like I said the person with custody should be responsible for that type of shyt

No one is asking about rent, gas or utilities. Yea , the adult is responsible.

Food and everything should be joint imo. Y'all both should make sure the child is well fed and clothed and everything else.

nikkas are trying to set a base number, when there is no base numbers. Kids a re a never ending bill and a spontaneous one at that. Which is why, everything should be split, so neither of your pockets should hurt. They should look equal.