as an Umar critic, he just gave the most mature argument about reparations I've seen in this entire discourse

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This proves his point.

That money is gonna circle the drain faster than it took to get it without infrastructure in place to use it.

The government that "made white people rich" also allowed them to stay that way.

Infrastructure repair and building is included in the discussion on reparations.
 

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Infrastructure repair and building is included in the discussion on reparations.
This little ad hoc sentence is useless.

You're supposed to do that BEFORE you ask.

Listen, you can't ask for some of this shyt. You gotta TAKE it.

Thats the real infrastructure needed. Like, when you go with your final proposal you should barely even need the money. Thats how you get it.
 

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Saw this in another thread...

As ADOS/FBA, our debt is owed.
Point is the money will be no good unless ADOS/FBA unite and build political and socioeconomic institutions to protect our group from centuries of deliberate systematic deprivation.
Closing the wealth gap one or two generations can't be what reparations is for us.
It should be for ADOS/FBA self-determination, to competitively build so future generations of ADOS/FBA have a future in this country.
Fukking off debt of this magnitude would be fukking off momentum of generations who endured worse for our place.
Functional unity will prevent fukking money off on strippers and Jordans.
That is cultural shift, meaning responsible millennial ADOS/FBA taking over to correct course before reparations.
Acting prematurely, we'll be in the same place as the CRM generation post-integration and lose ground.
There is a right time to get what is owed.

@Amo Husserl peep what Umar said on the first page.
 

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This little ad hoc sentence is useless.

You're supposed to do that BEFORE you ask.

Listen, you can't ask for some of this shyt. You gotta TAKE it.

Thats the real infrastructure needed. Like, when you go with your final proposal you should barely even need the money. Thats how you get it.

You don't know what you're talking about. You cannot build infrastructure without money. To think you can is idiotic and has not ever been done in such a nation as this one.

Read, " From Here to Equality..." and stop getting your lessons from failed Pan-Africanists.
 

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You don't know what you're talking about. You cannot build infrastructure without money. To think you can is idiotic and has not ever been done in such a nation as this one.

Read, " From Here to Equality..." and stop getting your lessons from failed Pan-Africanists.
Yeah. That infrastructure has to come from black people alone. You can't ask for the infrastructure AND the decorations.

Anything you "ask" for, will always let you down.
 

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Yeah. That infrastructure has to come from black people alone. You can't ask for the infrastructure AND the decorations.

Anything you "ask" for, will always let you down.

Show me in history where a group such as Black Americans dealing with 400 years of subjugation and undermining have built up their own infrastructure within a nation as powerful as America without help from the dominant power structure.


100 years of Pan-Africanism has produced nothing but Kente cloth, yet we got Black people here still getting swooned over the words of an idiot that cannot get an HVAC for a school that was supposed to open 5 years ago.

:snoop:
 

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Umar was always an intelligent breh...Social media clout got to his head and turned him into a caricature

 

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Show me in history where a group such as Black Americans dealing with 400 years of subjugation and undermining have built up their own infrastructure within a nation as powerful as America without help from the dominant power structure.


100 years of Pan-Africanism has produced nothing but Kente cloth, yet we got Black people here still getting swooned over the words of an idiot that cannot get an HVAC for a school that was supposed to open 5 years ago.

:snoop:
I didn't say it was easy or fair.

And precisely for that reason, you can't keep a running tab of what you need without MAKING them do it.

Asking alone isn't gonna cut it. It never has.

Reparations should be a topping, not the entire cake. For that very reason, it's laughable to even sit back and casually just "ask" for it. The world isn't gonna stop spinning by you just asking.
 

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I didn't say it was easy or fair.

And precisely for that reason, you can't keep a running tab of what you need without MAKING them do it.

Asking alone isn't gonna cut it. It never has.

Reparations should be a topping, not the entire cake. For that very reason, it's laughable to even sit back and casually just "ask" for it. The world isn't gonna stop spinning by you just asking.

No one suggested that it was supposed to be easy or fair or to simply ask for reparations.

Umar was always an intelligent breh...Social media clout got to his head and turned him into a caricature


Dr. Umar can talk but he hasn't solved one problem.
 
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