Banks foreclosing on churches in record numbers

[Unknown Poster]

But its not though.

I KNOW pastors personally and junior pastors etc who actually will hang out with secular crowds and talk about them probably leaving their church to go where they can make more money.

There is a profit motive here and we can't be blind to it.

How much money goes into pastor's pockets as supposed to actually helping the community?

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Does that article even try and ask to see how any portion of that money was reciprocated into the community? Events and keeping the churches open costs money. News outlets aren't going to cover food and clothes drives that Churches run. They are going to cover the tutoring services that they try and create for kids. They aren't going to cover the events that churches run to give kids a positive place to gather. There's a lot to show for what churches have done for the community if people didn't focus on the bad and looked at the good.

Again, please tell me what has been the benefit of the black church to the black community for the last say 40 years? What issues do the black church stand in support of today? In the 1960's the black church led the Civil Rights Movement. From Dr. King with his non violent approach to the Deacons of Defense with their belief in armed self determination.

But what has the black church taken a leadership role on since then? Police brutality? Mass incarceration? Massive black male unemployment? Intra-community violence? Has the black church built any institutions that benefit the black society as a whole?

I'm genuinely curious because I studied the history of the black church in America, after the Civil Rights Movement, the church became essentially powerless, and I'm sure cacery was somehow involved.

In the neighborhood I live in, the Nation of Islam has done more for black people here (at least from what I've seen with my eyes) than the many churches that are here.

 

[Rawtid]

I understand mortgages, balloon payments, etc. What I dont understand is where is the money...
Tithes
Tax exempt
Least likely type of property to be foreclosed on

You literally can't lose unless you (a.) stole the money or (b.) "misappropriated" the money

True, but we don't know the size of the congregation and how much they are giving. They may not be making that much. You taking out a mega church loan for a congregation of 100 people. shyt will never add up. Plus the mortgage isn't the only bill. There is still utilities, salaries and other general costs of running a business.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Who is they? Some of the biggest activist I know are funded via the church.

Who though?

And not all churches should exist. Thats just a fact.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Its called capitalism and will exist in secular spaces too

Churches are non-profits

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Atheist don't even attend "community centers"

I will say this 1 time and 1 time only, whether Christian or Atheist, Black folk would be at the bottom of the capitalistic socioeconomic pyramid. Some of you are hilariously stupid

Like 1% of the black community is atheists. If that.

What are you talking about?

 

[newworldafro]

WWJD?

I thought Jesus whipped the money changers? I think only time he gave jokers that work.

 

[Poitier]

And not all churches should exist. Thats just a fact.

This can be said about anything. Predators will always exist.

Churches are non-profits

And non-profits accrue capital.....are you dumb?

Like 1% of the black community is atheists. If that.

What are you talking about?

Ok....and? Could be 100% and we'd still be at the bottom

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The vast majority of churches are not prosperity gospel

I don't give a fukk...

Theres a church bubble in black neighborhoods...some of them can't even sustain themselves and thus, should not expect for 100 churches on the same block to thrive.

Will all of them close?

No

But theres THOUSANDS of wasted facilities that need to go the way of the do-do and come up off that property.

On top of that, these places lived tax free since the time of their inception

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This can be said about anything. Predators will always exist.




And non-profits accrue capital.....are you dumb?



Ok....and? Could be 100% and we'd still be at the bottom

You're making excuses.

Theres too many churches.

Thats a fact.

So yeah, many of them will, and should close. Its a waste of tax venue and just fiscally irrational.

But services in the black community will suffer accordingly. Its a shame, but if you can't maintain what it takes to do so, then you have no one else to blame. Theres just too many of them in the first place.

 

[Poitier]

But theres THOUSANDS of wasted facilities that need to go the way of the do-do and come up off that property.

And White people will be the ones "coming up"

 

[Poitier]

But services in the black community will suffer accordingly. Its a shame, but if you can't maintain what it takes to do so, then you have no one else to blame. Theres just too many of them in the first place.

White supremacist logic but ok

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

@Poitier you're acting like these "services," which I don't debate whether or not they're useful or influential, take money and you can't spread thin a shrinking religious population to support them, especially when financial mismanagement in these churches is at an all time high.

Theres too many forces at play.

These churches had it coming.

 

[Poitier]

@Poitier you're acting like these "services," which I don't debate whether or not they're useful or influential, take money and you can't spread thin a shrinking religious population to support them, especially when financial mismanagement in these churches is at an all time high.

Theres too many forces at play.

These churches had it coming.

Its not a good thing is all I'm saying

 

[Rawtid]

But its not though.

I KNOW pastors personally and junior pastors etc who actually will hang out with secular crowds and talk about them probably leaving their church to go where they can make more money.

There is a profit motive here and we can't be blind to it.

At the end of the day the church is still a business. A church with a strong following and that's been open longer, will be in a position to pay more. They are also more likely to have less debt and more income generating opportunities (renting out space for activities, weddings, etc) than a new church.