Besides C.R.E.A.M, what other megahits did Wu Tang Clan have as a group?

[Billy Ocean]

...but they are not songs by "Wu-Tang Clan".
If you have a copy of those singles, the artist on those is not "Wu-Tang Clan".
If you look at the charts and those songs are on them, the artis listed is not "Wu-Tang Clan".

That is the point of this thread.



"Wu-Tang Clan" does have "mega hits" UNDER THEIR GROUP NAME, though.
What you're talkin' about with "Hip Hop Hits" is irrelevant on this topic.

Ok stop with the predictable, played out Coli Bone Thug stan rhetoric. Do you believe that because Bone Thugs sold more records than Wu that they are the greater group?

I told yall on page 1 this fakkit created this thread in an attempt to goad y'all into a thread about Bone Thugs sales. And to his credit...it worked. Dudes fell for his trolling.

Bone Thug stans intrigue me. They have some sort of inferiority complex that very few other rapper stans display. This cac, and most of the other Bone stans on the Coli, are jealous of Wu's Godlike status in hip hop. It doesn't matter if Bone sold 10x more records than Wu. That doesn't equate to them being better or having a greater legacy than the clan and it burns them. It fukking kills them. These nikkas wish their harmonizing heroes were held in such regal regards as the Clan. Ya'll dudes need to accept it and move on. Bone created some damn good music throughout their career. But they just aren't the Clan.

 

[Rapmastermind]

...but they are not songs by "Wu-Tang Clan".
If you have a copy of those singles, the artist on those is not "Wu-Tang Clan".
If you look at the charts and those songs are on them, the artis listed is not "Wu-Tang Clan".

That is the point of this thread.



"Wu-Tang Clan" does have "mega hits" UNDER THEIR GROUP NAME, though.
What you're talkin' about with "Hip Hop Hits" is irrelevant on this topic.

Actually nah cause as someone mentioned, Mega Hits are determined by the charts and they are. I already broke down Wu's single chart history and it isn't that good. They never had strong impact on the charts for their singles. So the "Hip Hop Hit" is relevant cause songs in Hip Hop can be popular without doing well on the charts. Like "Cream" and "Who Shot Ya". A lot of Wu's songs are Hits in the Hip Hop world just not on the Pop Charts.

 

[Wacky D]

No, it's not. Stop with the comedy routine. Nobody outside of the Coli believes that Bone Thugs had a greater legacy or standing in hip hop than Wu. At least not any objective, sane hip hop fan. Cut the bullshyt

this is where I stopped reading.

you cant seem to have a reasonable conversation about anything wutang related without being ridiculous.

bone vs wu been a heavy debate for darn near 2 decades now. only bigger debates i can think of is pac/big & jay/nas.

and you obviously weren't on the internet back in the '90s, because this debate ran the internet.

 

[Billy Ocean]

Exactly bro

I told yall on page 1 this fakkit created this thread in an attempt to goad y'all into a thread about Bone Thugs sales. And to his credit...it worked. Dudes fell for his trolling.

Bone Thug stans intrigue me. They have some sort of inferiority complex that very few other rapper stans display. This cac, and most of the other Bone stans on the Coli, are jealous of Wu's Godlike status in hip hop. It doesn't matter if Bone sold 10x more records than Wu. That doesn't equate to them being better or having a greater legacy than the clan and it burns them. It fukking kills them. These nikkas wish their harmonizing heroes were held in such regal regards as the Clan. Ya'll dudes need to accept it and move on. Bone created some damn good music throughout their career. But they just aren't the Clan.

 

[CACtain Planet]

Run DMC are obviously pop musicians. They were one of the first groups to cross over into pop. That aside, if you look at their discog, they only have 1 more top-10 song than Wu does. and that's because it was the Aerosmith collab. NWA also only has 1 more top-10 song than Wu. So talking about "all the megahits" as if they had tons of megahits and Wu is in a completely different category from them is reaching hard.

As for Bone, they had several more hits than Wu in the US, and less outside it, but regardless, they are a singles group at the end of the day. Their albums sold on the strength of their singles. That's not true for Wu, who, like I said, are an albums group, whether group or solo. Their albums went platinum even without top-10 singles.

Plenty of group albums were going platinum back then without top 10 singles like Hot Boyz, TRU, Junior Mafia, freaking FIRM was certified platinum so what your saying aint some grandiose accomplishment in that era.

 

[CACtain Planet]

I told yall on page 1 this fakkit created this thread in an attempt to goad y'all into a thread about Bone Thugs sales. And to his credit...it worked. Dudes fell for his trolling.

Bone Thug stans intrigue me. They have some sort of inferiority complex that very few other rapper stans display. This cac, and most of the other Bone stans on the Coli, are jealous of Wu's Godlike status in hip hop. It doesn't matter if Bone sold 10x more records than Wu. That doesn't equate to them being better or having a greater legacy than the clan and it burns them. It fukking kills them. These nikkas wish their harmonizing heroes were held in such regal regards as the Clan. Ya'll dudes need to accept it and move on. Bone created some damn good music throughout their career. But they just aren't the Clan.

you've been reduced to copy and pasting responses like some brainless parrot

 

[Billy Ocean]

this is where I stopped reading.

you cant seem to have a reasonable conversation about anything wutang related without being ridiculous.

bone vs wu been a heavy debate for darn near 2 decades now. only bigger debates i can think of is pac/big & jay/nas.

and you obviously weren't on the internet back in the '90s, because this debate ran the internet.

May have been a debate back in the 90's, or even early, early 2000's...but now it's not even remotely something that should be debated. Wu is greater breh. Bone vs. Wu: Who's greater sounds like some shyt you would see on a 1998 messageboard. Leave it there.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Run DMC are obviously pop musicians. They were one of the first groups to cross over into pop. That aside, if you look at their discog, they only have 1 more top-10 song than Wu does. and that's because it was the Aerosmith collab. NWA also only has 1 more top-10 song than Wu. So talking about "all the megahits" as if they had tons of megahits and Wu is in a completely different category from them is reaching hard.

As for Bone, they had several more hits than Wu in the US, and less outside it, but regardless, they are a singles group at the end of the day. Their albums sold on the strength of their singles. That's not true for Wu, who, like I said, are an albums group, whether group or solo. Their albums went platinum even without top-10 singles.

And that to me should be the ultimate mark of the legacy. I'd never act like Bone wasn't big, not when a song like Crossroads was so big and E. 1999 was such a big album, along with the art of war, but I would argue that Wu didn't need those same hits in the US to be big because the branding, the mystique and the music itself was enough for them. They were never going to make a song as big as Crossroads because of the melodic and harmonious flows Bone has, so that will play better on radio and have an easier time crossing over. Different styles, different types of music, I would argue that Wu just did it better for a longer time

 

[Rapmastermind]

Also people need to understand some of Hip Hop Greatest Songs did not do well on the Billboard Charts.

 

[Billy Ocean]

you've been reduced to copy and pasting responses like some brainless parrot

I told yall on page 1 this fakkit created this thread in an attempt to goad y'all into a thread about Bone Thugs sales. And to his credit...it worked. Dudes fell for his trolling.

Bone Thug stans intrigue me. They have some sort of inferiority complex that very few other rapper stans display. This cac, and most of the other Bone stans on the Coli, are jealous of Wu's Godlike status in hip hop. It doesn't matter if Bone sold 10x more records than Wu. That doesn't equate to them being better or having a greater legacy than the clan and it burns them. It fukking kills them. These nikkas wish their harmonizing heroes were held in such regal regards as the Clan. Ya'll dudes need to accept it and move on. Bone created some damn good music throughout their career. But they just aren't the Clan.

 

[Billy Ocean]

you've been reduced to copy and pasting responses like some brainless parrot

 

[Taadow]

I understand that these aren't "Wu" songs but they carry the Wu brand and the Wu stamp, which only enhance the Wu legacy. I would argue that since they were the first group, at least to my knowledge, to branch out as a group and create successful solo careers for a good number of guys in the group, each on different record labels and corner the market in a very specific way, gives them an either greater legacy.

Playboy - i'm not disputing Wu-Tang Clan's legacy. Not at all.

I would say that those songs are hits because in my area, they were on the radio heavily, not just during a mix show or late night hip hop. Does that mean they were billboard hits? No, but a lot of "hit" songs aren't billboard hits like someone said earlier.

Dude - I don't see what is so hard about this. lol

It doesn't matter what you (or the "streets") say is a hit. A song...

...is by definition a "hit"...

...if it "hits" the Billboard charts.

For that matter, what if the streets don't say it's a hit?
Case in point: there is a thread on here right now about Nelly - "Just A Dream".
People in there had no idea Nelly was doing anything in 2010, but that song
was 3x plat! Was that not a "hit" because "the streets" didn't think so?
(that's a rhetorical question.)

 

[head shots101]

Having mega hits equal goat or skills now?

 

[CACtain Planet]

And that to me should be the ultimate mark of the legacy. I'd never act like Bone wasn't big, not when a song like Crossroads was so big and E. 1999 was such a big album, along with the art of war, but I would argue that Wu didn't need those same hits in the US to be big because the branding, the mystique and the music itself was enough for them. They were never going to make a song as big as Crossroads because of the melodic and harmonious flows Bone has, so that will play better on radio and have an easier time crossing over. Different styles, different types of music, I would argue that Wu just did it better for a longer time

How is that when Wu as a group hasnt had an album worth mentioning since '97?

 

[MartyMcFly]

Playboy - i'm not disputing Wu-Tang Clan's legacy. Not at all.



Dude - I don't see what is so hard about this. lol

It doesn't matter what you (or the "streets") say is a hit. A song...

...is by definition a "hit"...

...if it "hits" the Billboard charts.

For that matter, what if the streets don't say it's a hit?
Case in point: there is a thread on here right now about Nelly - "Just A Dream".
People in there had no idea Nelly was doing anything in 2010, but that song
was 3x plat! Was that not a "hit" because "the streets" didn't think so?
(that's a rhetorical question.)

I feel that but I would argue that hip hop has always been on a different level when it comes to that type of thing. I'm not saying you're wrong at all, just saying that hip hop has always operated by its own rules, mostly out of rebellion