Tornado Drill
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Consumers have influence, but they don't control what is sold. This is why black people had to go the alternative route a lot of the time.
Black art should display how life should be, not how it is
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Consumers have influence, but they don't control what is sold. This is why black people had to go the alternative route a lot of the time.
This is a good answer imo leaves no excuse for all these people who say they can't find positive art in this era, i'm sure they can learn to create and put out their own. It's a brother on here who has a animated cartoon dealing with ancient egypt. Another with problack music. Can also introduce younger generations into the type of art you like which might inspire them to follow that road if they want to be an artist.
So the white man is too powerful for ya'll to support positive art and media collectively?
That's what I'm saying it's not that hard to support content creators you like. Didn't Tariq have the number 1 documentary on Amazon at one point in time? And one of the top R&B albums on Itunes. Other people can do it from the mud up but it's a million and one excuses why they can't shyt is just awful.
A lot of the same posters hated,the Hidden Colors series.
These threads always exposes the agents and c00ns. Talk about Public Enemy, about Jason Black, or anything pro black, and they will be likeor
Telling a creator how or what to create can kill inspiration. You need passion to be an artist so If it doesn't come from the heart then the artist won't be making art long
Or he's just doing commissions.....
Yeah you right but art inspire art was my point.
I was just further elaborating my point what you said is true
Sounds like the typical trap artist. Which is why their careers are so short
Cant negociate with defeatists and c00ns. They got their minds made up about WS being too powerful
Tornado Drill
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No that's your stance. My stance is that it doesn't matter what is on the market, work around it or go against it.
And this market talk is all bullshyt anyway. Think about it. The dudes that paint the murals on the sides of buildings aren't doing it for some damn market.
Wear My Dawg's Hat
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The period that supported everyone from Maze and Luther to Stephanie Mills to Stax to Motown to Aretha, relied on a black music economy of black radio (WBLS, KJLH, WDAS, WJLB), black record stores (George's Music Room, Sikulu's, VIP), black magazines (Ebony, Jet, Right On, Black Beat), black music television (Soul Train, Video Music Box), black live entertainment (The Apollo, The Howard, Bentley's, World On Wheels Skating Rink, Al Haymon's Superfest) - this ecosystem has mostly disappeared.
YouTube/Spotify/Pandora/Instagram/Facebook/Twitter as white owned and controlled technology platforms, cannot replicate the organic nature of what historically served as the foundation of popular black art expressions.
I just don't it. Especially in the woke era where you have companies like Nike capitalizing off wokeness. Seems similar to the 90s where you had people who would wear the kufis, medallions, beads, etc. Stuff like Public Enemy, X Clan, Poor Righteous Teachers, Outkast,etc
Contradicting yourself a lot sir how is that my stance when this whole time I've been telling you to support the positive content creaters and you've been making excuses repeatedly. First you said it wasn't any in the states than flip-flopped to it was and now flipping again. I don't get how some kid can blow up posting his unmixed trap music on the internet from the support of his neighborhood but that same concept can't apply to positive artist with you
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It's also a side effect of capitalism, which sells the myth of "pragmatism" and "getting down to business", as well as the "There is No Alternative" way of thinking ushered in by Thatcher and Reagan, that still rules most of politics and economics now. Basically anything about hope for something different, some other way of living the future, etc...is dismissed as "dreaming", "not having your feet on the ground", not "real people issues", and all that right-wing (but now mainstream) way of thinking.
So that means that the very concept of imagining something else, having hope for a different tomorrow, etc...is seen as a laughable utopia, or as being "disconnected from reality". That's exactly what all right-wing politicians say, and a lot of people agree, even some of those who do not vote for these politicians. Obviously all of this trickles down to all spheres of society, including art. It even transformed art into a business like any other (especially in countries where art might not be that subsidized), used more to get paid than to actually express oneself. So if you want to get paid, you do what sells. And what sells is not positive and forward-thinking stuff, seen as "unrealistic". All the reboots, sequels, spin-offs, prequels etc Hollywood is making is also an indication of that in a sense, imagination is quite low in general these days, because it's damn-near frowned upon in politics and economy.
That being said, there's a lot of painting, photography and whatnot that portray Black people in a positive way, and gives images of possible futures and whatnot. Litterature too. I'm more aware of this coming from Africa than in the US, but it must be out there too. Afro-futurism and a new wave of knowledge of self has helped in that matter. Must be there in the US too but maybe not that much in the mainstream yet.
So that means that the very concept of imagining something else, having hope for a different tomorrow, etc...is seen as a laughable utopia, or as being "disconnected from reality". That's exactly what all right-wing politicians say, and a lot of people agree, even some of those who do not vote for these politicians. Obviously all of this trickles down to all spheres of society, including art. It even transformed art into a business like any other (especially in countries where art might not be that subsidized), used more to get paid than to actually express oneself. So if you want to get paid, you do what sells. And what sells is not positive and forward-thinking stuff, seen as "unrealistic". All the reboots, sequels, spin-offs, prequels etc Hollywood is making is also an indication of that in a sense, imagination is quite low in general these days, because it's damn-near frowned upon in politics and economy.
That being said, there's a lot of painting, photography and whatnot that portray Black people in a positive way, and gives images of possible futures and whatnot. Litterature too. I'm more aware of this coming from Africa than in the US, but it must be out there too. Afro-futurism and a new wave of knowledge of self has helped in that matter. Must be there in the US too but maybe not that much in the mainstream yet.
Tornado Drill
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What?? This is an odd way to miss the point. Do you believe the black image can continue to afford negativity? Is the group not denigrated enough to where we can spare anymore depressed and debased depictions?
^^^^The correct answer is we cannot afford it and no amount of spin, denialism, or market talk is going to change that.
