Black art should display how life should be, not how it is

[AlainLocke]

Lmao so now it's an american black thread where positive art and entertainment is non exstience?

Breh they turned Luke Cage into some self-respectability politics character...

Chance the Rapper, Logic and J.Cole are the biggest rappers out...

The idea that Black art is "negative" is some middle aged, man yelling at clouds shyt lol...

And like the world is gonna treat us better because we start showing art of us taking care of our kids, doing homework and loving our families lol

 

[THE MACHINE]

There's plenty of art like that out there (music, paintings, movies). The depressing stuff seems to be what you are attracted to. I hope that doesnt come off as condescending. I hear you in your larger message. I think we, the black consumer, can change the way mainstream black art is created and consumed.

But I think you are here because of whats popular as opposed to whats available.

Music - If black women refused to go into clubs that played "bytch, hoe, slut" then eventually black male/female artists would change their descriptions of black women in music. I hate that it takes that to get men to change but its true. Women can change music. Women are the heartbeat of clubs, not men

Television - If black men (with pro black views) were more interested in being behind the camera (production, casting, writing) then we could see mainstream art reflect more positivity. Women support men in power, we could use a few more people in power pushing positivity.

There arent as many black people selling drugs, killing, pimping out black women, strung out on dope as we are made to believe. Most black people are everyday people.


So the question to the OP is, what are you doing to change the narrative?

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

The inspirational instinct within today's overall culture has pretty much disappeared. Once upon a time,
Sounds of Blackness hit big singing "Be Optimistic."

If you attended a predominantly black public school from the 1960s - 1980s, you probably sung "Lift Evry Voice and Sing" each morning.

James D Train Williams had a Number One song with the following lyrics:

"Keep on steppin' 'til you reach higher ground
Can't nobody turn you 'round
Step on up you can claim the highest star
Straight ahead, it's not very far!"

 

[ba'al]

If they don't like mainstream artists plenty of underground all over that make happy music and art. Don't even understand in the era of streaming and digital content how people struggle to find artists that meet their needs. If you want shea butter type music it's artists out there for you. Any niche or subgenere you can find artists for it in a few clicks. Just phony outrage to me honestly imo.

Breh they turned Luke Cage into some self-respectability politics character...

Chance the Rapper, Logic and J.Cole are the biggest rappers out...

The idea that Black art is "negative" is some middle aged, man yelling at clouds shyt lol...

 

[Tornado Drill]

The problem is, even though we have the power to make our own art, we still dont control the distribution of it. We could make a million inspiring works of art but at the end of the day we still have to go somewhere else to have it put out to the masses. Unfortunately the people who control the distribution would rather see ignorance and destruction. Also black people only seem to support 100% black productions if Jesus is involved.

The messed up part about it is, that a lot of the ignorance isnt even selling like that. So a lot of this propaganda is being put out at a loss, which should scare you even more...

This was always a problem, but it never stopped us before. Man brothers uses to walk around selling CDs. I could go to my neighborhood shop and men and women would run in selling whatever they were selling. Everybody had a hustle and "distribution" was never a problem. It just forced people to hustle more.

Anyway social media removes all the excuses. "Black Twitter" could plug in products from time to time (like how Zo does on his Zo What show). I'm hearing too many excuses.

 

[Wild self]

Breh they turned Luke Cage into some self-respectability politics character...

Chance the Rapper, Logic and J.Cole are the biggest rappers out...

The idea that Black art is "negative" is some middle aged, man yelling at clouds shyt lol...

And like the world is gonna treat us better because we start showing art of us taking care of our kids, doing homework and loving our families lol

No society can thrive being filled with degenerates and underachievers. That is more important than how white people gonna treat us. Cant have a society filled with "real nikkaz" and "real bytches" that dont strive to be better people. We need more black folk striving to be both the high end professions and even high end positivity in fictional entertainment

 

[SHO-NUFF]

TIL there's a wrong way to do art

 

[Tornado Drill]

Lmao so now it's an american black thread where positive art and entertainment is non exstience?


Please. These nikkas are annoying as hell.

It's too net negative and that's the point. No other race ethers themselves this much.

 

[Dad]

It's too net negative and that's the point. No other race ethers themselves this much.

Stop with the Bullshyt.

-first what is “too negative”?

- what do you consider ethering ourselves?

 

[Wild self]

The inspirational instinct within today's overall culture has pretty much disappeared. Once upon a time,
Sounds of Blackness hit big singing "Be Optimistic."

If you attended a predominantly black public school from the 1960s - 1980s, you probably sung "Lift Evry Voice and Sing" each morning.

James D Train Williams had a Number One song with the following lyrics:

"Keep on steppin' 'til you reach higher ground
Can't nobody turn you 'round
Step on up you can claim the highest star
Straight ahead, it's not very far!"

Undisputed Facts!!

Back in the day, cats used to strive for better (non materialistic) things. Even if they didnt have it yet. Nowadays, its about "reality" and materialism. No more 'hold your head high' and no more reaching intellectual 'impossible' dreams. Just fast money and instant gratification. That also harmed the black family unit the last 35 year's.

 

[ba'al]

So why when a lot of these old groups put out new music you people who all say they want old music back let them flop?

The inspirational instinct within today's overall culture has pretty much disappeared. Once upon a time,
Sounds of Blackness hit big singing "Be Optimistic."

If you attended a predominantly black public school from the 1960s - 1980s, you probably sung "Lift Evry Voice and Sing" each morning.

James D Train Williams had a Number One song with the following lyrics:

"Keep on steppin' 'til you reach higher ground
Can't nobody turn you 'round
Step on up you can claim the highest star
Straight ahead, it's not very far!"

 

[HellRell804]

This was always a problem, but it never stopped us before. Man brothers uses to walk around selling CDs. I could go to my neighborhood shop and men and women would run in selling whatever they were selling. Everybody had a hustle and "distribution" was never a problem. It just forced people to hustle more.

Anyway social media removes all the excuses. "Black Twitter" could plug in products from time to time (like how Zo does on his Zo What show). I'm hearing too many excuses.

I think you misunderstood me breh.

Like let's take dr. Dre. He owns aftermath records, but interscope handles the actual distribution. They print the CDs, get the records on streaming sites, get the songs to radio.

Arista for bad boy. Universal for cash money etc.

Even tyler perry has to deal with new line cinema to get his movies in theaters.

What that means is, if the distributor refuses to put something out, black people have no other avenues to put these things out themselves.

It's why what floyd Mayweather did was so revolutionary. He partnered with Al Haymon, put his own money up and took control of his own career. That's why he can fight who he wants when he wants and make obscene amounts of money. Of course the media tries to assassinate his character at every step.

Bottom line, until you're willing to take a risk, it doesn't matter how much "freedom" your boss gives you, you're still an employee.

 

[Tornado Drill]

Stop with the Bullshyt.

What other race ethers themselves like this? What other group participates in their own denigration? No other group would allow their image to go so negative without trying to do something about it. You stop the bullshyt.

 

[ba'al]

It's too net negative and that's the point. No other race ethers themselves this much.

Whats too negative? Mainstream music? You can take black gospel music for explain all their shyt is positive. Whatever your niche you can't find a artist for it stop it with the faux outrage.

Stop with the Bullshyt.

-first what is “too negative”?

- what do you consider ethering ourselves?

He don't know what the hell he's talking about he still hasn't explain to me In the Era of streaming and digital media and content how he can't find positive content. As well as why they let old groups who do comebacks flop so often? Seem to be talking out the ass. Typical smart dumb sheabutter types.

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

The problem is, even though we have the power to make our own art, we still dont control the distribution of it. We could make a million inspiring works of art but at the end of the day we still have to go somewhere else to have it put out to the masses. Unfortunately the people who control the distribution would rather see ignorance and destruction. Also black people only seem to support 100% black productions if Jesus is involved.

The messed up part about it is, that a lot of the ignorance isnt even selling like that. So a lot of this propaganda is being put out at a loss, which should scare you even more...

There is much more potential to distribute expressions today than there was when John Johnson, Berry Gordy, Kenny Gamble/Leon Huff, Al Bell, Percy Sutton and Don Cornelius were doing it so successfully in the past.

However, they were marketing to a more cohesive community than that which exists now.

In fact, due to so much technology being around, distribution options may be too plentiful to build mass acceptance on projects UNLESS it is on the super large scale of Black Panther or the NBA, or has a longterm existing base of support (Drake, Jay Z, Beyonce, Rihanna).