"Blacks Are Stealing History" Egypt, Sumer, China, Maya etc etc

Asante

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you should care. since it's you who's trying to connect the west african population to ancient egypt, when most west africans don't care


That is pseudo Intellectualism. Who gives a fukk what "they" care about? Most people in general don't care about this topic, but regardless what the fukk does that have to do with the facts saying otherwise?

I've been in almost all the AE threads. That page you linked me do just isn't cutting it. it's not enough evidence to connect the two.

Well....Put it to you this way....you can't prove that I'm saying is incorrect. :ufdup:
 

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Again this is a purely American concept. The only cacs who even give a shyt or claim shyt like are white Americans. I promise you a cac from Italy, France, Russia absolutely does not care in that fashion And will big up themselves first before anything. Ffs You can’t even have an Irishman, Englishmen, or Scott in the same building lest a fight break out

They don't care? Game of Thrones and Lord of the Rings (British themed shows) say otherwise.
 

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Mummy DNA unravels ancient Egyptians’ ancestry

Genetic analysis reveals a close relationship with Middle Easterners, not central Africans.


Excavations in the ancient city of Abusir el-Meleq. Credit: Petr Bonek/Alamy
The tombs of ancient Egypt have yielded golden collars and ivory bracelets, but another treasure — human DNA — has proved elusive. Now, scientists have captured sweeping genomic information from Egyptian mummies. It reveals that mummies were closely related to ancient Middle Easterners, hinting that northern Africans might have different genetic roots from people south of the Sahara desert.

The study, published on 30 May in Nature Communications1, includes data from 90 mummies buried between 1380 BC, during Egypt’s New Kingdom, and AD 425, in the Roman era. The findings show that the mummies’ closest kin were ancient farmers from a region that includes present-day Israel and Jordan. Modern Egyptians, by contrast, have inherited more of their DNA from central Africans.

Archaeological discoveries and historical documents suggest close ties between Egypt and the Middle East, but “it is very nice that this study has now provided empirical evidence for this at the genetic level”, says evolutionary anthropologist Omer Gokcumen of the State University of New York at Buffalo.

Egypt’s searing climate and the ancient practice of embalming bodies has made the recovery of intact genetic material daunting. The first DNA sequences thought to be from a mummy2 were probably the result of modern contamination, and many scientists are sceptical3 of purported genetic information acquired from the mummy of King Tutankhamun4.

The latest analysis succeeded by bypassing soft tissue — often abundant in Egyptian mummies — to seek DNA from bone and teeth. Researchers carefully screened the DNA to rule out contamination from anyone who had handled the mummies since their excavation a century ago in the ancient town of Abusir el-Meleq.

“More than half of the mummies we studied had pretty decent DNA preservation,” says co-author Johannes Krause, a palaeogeneticist at the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena, Germany.

The team “succeeds where previous studies on Egyptian mummies have failed or fallen short”, says Hannes Schroeder, a palaeogeneticist at the University of Copenhagen. Now, researchers can hope to answer questions such as whether immigration drove ancient-Egyptian population growth, adds Sonia Zakrzewski, a bioarchaeologist at the University of Southampton, UK.

The scientists obtained information about variations in mitochondrial DNA, which is passed from mother to child, from 90 mummies. Because of contamination, the team was able to acquire detailed nuclear DNA, which is inherited from both parents, from only three mummies.

Both types of genomic material showed that ancient Egyptians shared little DNA with modern sub-Saharan Africans. Instead, their closest relatives were people living during the Neolithic and Bronze ages in an area known as the Levant. Strikingly, the mummies were more closely related to ancient Europeans and Anatolians than to modern Egyptians.

The researchers say that there was probably a pulse of sub-Saharan African DNA into Egypt roughly 700 years ago. The mixing of ancient Egyptians and Africans from further south means that modern Egyptians can trace 8% more of their ancestry to sub-Saharan Africans than can the mummies from Abusir el-Meleq.

The new data can’t explain why the ancient Egyptians were so tightly aligned with people from the Middle East. Was it the result of migration, or were the Stone Age hunter-gatherers of northern Africa genetically similar to those of the Levant? It’s too early to tell, Krause says, but there’s a better chance now of getting answers. “This is the first glimpse of the genetic history of Egypt,” he says. “But it’s really just the start.”

So before I destroy this study again, tell me what does this actually mean?
 

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"I was talking to a friend about the modern phenomenon of Afrocentrism, and how a lot of people of African descent feel the need to steal the history of other people in order to feel-good about their racial identity. Which is why you see things like the Black Egyptian propaganda, the Hebrew Israelite, the Black Olmecs, the Black Xia dynasty, and other very vicious and demonic lies."

Eurocentric revisionism?

"The situation as of 2020 is fairly simple:

Africa south of the sahara is simply lagging behind.. Some countries are doing better, some are doing worse, but generally the picture is pretty grim.

  • Locals did their best to develop and basically failed
  • Then came europeans with new technology and what amounts to unlimited capital... and failed (so it is important to note that failure in sub saharan Africa is independent of the population)
  • Then the europeans left (or were made to leave in some cases) , the locals tried again and so far have been mostly failing

These serial failures are due to objective difficult conditions such as (obviously there will be some local exceptions) poor soil for agriculture, lack of domesticated large animals (such as horses and cows, except again in some areas), distances, tropical diseases, difficult terrain etc....
The area with the best conditions is South Africa... Not surprisingly this was the only real colony for the europeans, with a large white population moving in to settle (and the largest current white/european origin population of any african country)... And the country which performs best economically

Sub Saharan Africa is roughly twice the size of Europe, but was much less populous until the 20th century (and is still much less populous than China or India)

These difficult conditions are not new. Hence going back in time, to claim that there were some super advanced civilizations in the area is strange, and akin to the Atlantis myth.... Yes some areas were doing relatively well, there were cities, trade , some local production of various artefacts etc... But these areas were not "global players"....

Will this change in the future ? yes, as tech advances, there are more opportunities to negate natural disadvantages and speed up development (this is already happening in some countries).. Larger populations make for larger economies which are then able to finance further development...

Having said this , some famous "westerners" have one or several african ancestors.. This is for example the (exotic) case of Pushkin whose grandfather was black.... It is not "afro centric" to say so... but it would be strange to link Pushkin's work to some african legacy, as Pushkin was fully a product of his society..."

An honest look at Afrocentrism...


Why do Afrocentrics want to claim ancient Middle Eastern history as black?
An honest look at Afrocentrism...

Why do Afrocentists try to relate themselves to Egypt rather than claim their real history? (country, life)

Read more: Why do Afrocentists try to relate themselves to Egypt rather than claim their real history? (country, life) - Africa - Page 51 - City-Data Forum

"Egypt was not part of Africa, that is a modern construct. Egypt was part of Levantine civilization. Like North African amazighs Egyptians were a Middle Eastern people. Olive toned berbers inhabited North “Africa” for 60 thousand years, are you going to steal their history too? The Sahara desert was an insurmountable natural barrier that separated the Middle East and North Africa from the rest of Africa. Stop peddling Afrocentrism and stop stealing history from Egyptian people."



Those websites you quoted are pretty much st0rmfr0nt for white wanna be anthropologists btw
 

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If people wanna get a really good breakdown of Afrocentrism and Eurocentrism

Here’s the vid you need to watch by an actual historian who spend decades researching this from an unbiased perspective

I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO WATCH THIS VIDEO

 

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If people wanna get a really good breakdown of Afrocentrism and Eurocentrism

Here’s the vid you need to watch by an actual historian who spend decades researching this from an unbiased perspective

I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO WATCH THIS VIDEO




Yep! SOY Keita is a savior for Black history.
 

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OP tryna explain that white people tryna erase black people from claiming Egypt and cats came in here arguing on some in-fighting shyt. Missing the fukking point entirely. Lol. Ancient Egypt is BLACK. NOT white. NOT aliens. NOT any of that bullshyt they try to portray it as to erase its black history. fukk all the other shyt cats in here arguing about. That shyt is semantics. U don’t wanna claim ur people are directly from Egypt? Fine. But that doesn’t erase the fact that they were in fact BLACK people and that history should be preserved. Not erased or allowed to be erased based on tribal pride.
 

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Let's take emotions out of this.

What people is missing that Kemet was a melting pot of various ethnicities/tribes from mainly Southern, Central and East Afrika. However, Ancient Nubia and the civilizations of the Nile River civilization predate Kemet. There is no "Egyptian" race. These are Black Afrikans.

Afrikans didn't start migrated West and other regions until the Romans, Persians, Greeks and Arabs invaded. Bantus sailed to the Swahili coast (Tanzania).

If West Afrika and Kemet had no connection, explain why the concept of Ma'at is rampant. Link (https://www.lisapoyakama.org/maat-la-philosophie-africaine/)

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We should acknowledge that the civilization of Ancient Zimbabwe is older than the Nile River Valley and of West Afrika

The incredible discovery was made in South Africa, around 150 km west of port Maputo. There, we find the remains of a huge metropolis that measures, according to tests, around 1500 square kilometers. This ancient city is, according to researchers, part of an even larger community with about 10,000 square kilometers and is believed to have been constructed 160,000 to 200,000 years before Christ.



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Link: The remains of a 200,000 year old advanced civilization found in Africa Bizsiziz

I have more. Just fill me in
 

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The mental gymnastics of denying these people were black.
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This is literally how Egyptians literally depicted themselves.

White people are insane.
In those very same paintings they seem to distinguish themselves from the Nubians(who were black).
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If the Egyptians were anything they were probably mixed, explained by the fact that they weren't only multicultural but also got conquered and ruled by several different civilizations (including Nubia).
 

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1# trace back far enough and it was all black.
2# Egypt is in.......ya'll ready?????
AFRICA!!

to think that every patch of Africa had
nothing but black but Egypt
didnt is fukkin stupid.



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Breh, this is false

Look at the whole north of Africa; Egypt, Algeria, Morocco, Libya and Tunisia and they are clearly paler, arab-like people

Considering Egypt is the nearest to the Middle East shouldn't be a surprise
 

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In those very same paintings they seem to distinguish themselves from the Nubians(who were black).
:patrice: Ppl keep saying this but the nubians, aka modern sudanese, are literally some of the darkest ppl on the planet. Their complexion is kinda their distinguishing feature, even among other Africans, so ofc the Egyptians noted it.

Nonetheless, ancient Egypt was peopled from the south, according to both the archaeology and their own words.

:jbhmm: Thinking about it, its similar to the difference btwn geechees and other sc ados. We all come from the same geechee root, just with varying levels of admixture.
 
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