Breh at this point is there any question about Beyoncé being the female GOAT

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Michael Jackson
Prince
Tina Turner
James Brown
Jackie Wilson
Sammy Davis Jr.
Whitney Houston(I don't give a damn if she didn't dance, she had a stronger stage presence, and more of a hold over an audience than Beyonce; Beyonce's not a real dancer anyway.)
David Bowie
Janet Jackson
Bruce Springsteen

All better live solo performers than Beyonce. I'm pretty sure I left a ton of others out.




Explain how she does anything better than MJ on a skill and technical level?

She's not a great dancer, he was the GOAT dancer in music.
She's not a legendary singer that he was either.

Interested in your explanation.
I already posted it. Why don't you just read the whole thread.

And lol at calling people dumbasses because they don't agree with you.
 

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Beyonce is a better dancer than Whitney.

Whitney is the better singer.

Nobody cares about dance. It's a minor artform compare to music.

When you're comparing Beyonce to Whitney, you're comparing two musicians. When it comes to music, Whitney >>> Beyonce.


Beyonce might be the GOAT female dancer. But when it comes to music, she's not close to be the GOAT.

Before videos became so important, nobody would've cared about someone like Beyonce (just above average singer) or Rihana (average singer, and I'm being generous).

How in the hell is she better than Tina, Janet or Paula as a female dancer?
 

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Beyonce is the modern GOAT for the trap music era. Other than that, hell naw, she's not even in the conversation. Beyonce is relatively the GOAT, still the GOAT, but it depends on who you're comparing her to.
 

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I already posted it. Why don't you just read the whole thread.

And lol at calling people dumbasses because they don't agree with you.

I'm not reading through this whole thread, the first five pages were enough.

I'm asking for your opinion: How is she better than Michael Jackson on a skill or technical level?

Anybody who thinks she's anywhere near his or the other acts Im posted as a live performer is either extremely ignorant of music history or a blithering dumbass.
 
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Anybody who thinks she's anywhere near his or the other acts Im posted as a live performer is either extremely ignorant of music history or a blithering dumbass.

Nostalgia is making you an idiot, whoever the best is will be someone's opinion, saying she doesn't belong with the greats when it comes to performing it's just having old school bias.
 

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I'm not reading through this whole thread, the first five pages were enough.

I'm asking for your opinion: How is she better than Michael Jackson on a skill or technical level?
I think she sings better than him and is a great dancer (not a better dancer but she can dance). And her ability to do it all at the same time without skipping a beat and being out of breath is amazing too. Her stamina is out of this world. I think she’s in amazing shape especially after having 3 children and she hasn’t shown any signs of slowing down. I respect MJ performance wise and think he’s a great performer, but I feel like his stage show has gotten worse over time and he began lipping his performances too. Bey is in her 30s and she’s still doing her thing in every department and it’s like she’s getting better every time.
 

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But even after saying all of this, people will still get into their feelings and not have an agreed to disagree conversation. So with that said, I’m out.
 

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Nostalgia is making you an idiot, whoever the best is will be someone's opinion, saying she doesn't belong with the greats when it comes to performing it's just having old school bias.

It's not nostalgia, it's merely an appreciation of the all-time greats. Beyonce is not on their level, she has done nothing that ha transcended live performance or pushed it forward.

All of the all-time greats from the past are better than everybody out there today, Beyonce included.
 

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I'm not reading through this whole thread, the first five pages were enough.

I'm asking for your opinion: How is she better than Michael Jackson on a skill or technical level?

Anybody who thinks she's anywhere near his or the other acts Im posted as a live performer is either extremely ignorant of music history or a blithering dumbass.

See, this is where it gets complex. Just reading this thread is hilarious.

The sheer and utter delusion when it comes to Beyonce’s Beyhive is what makes people so overly critical of her and I don’t think her fans realize it.

Bey is dope. The best female entertainer of this era. No question. But when people start trying to equate her to MJ and Prince and people like that, it just creates a situation for her to get dragged.

Bey doesn’t need to be compared to them. She can be great on her own merits. And I wish her stans realized this instead of doing the fukkin most all the time.
 

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I think she sings better than him and is a great dancer (not a better dancer but she can dance).
And her ability to do it all at the same time without skipping a beat and being out of breath is amazing too. Her stamina is out of this world.

Nah. Even as a child, MJ could effortlessly belt, access head voice and high tenor vocals in perfect pitch, while dancing at the same time. In his prime, he was a different animal than anybody else in history in that department. And all other acts I named, with the exception of Whiney, Janet, and Springsteen could do that as well.

Beyonce may be the best at doing that in this era, but that's not saying much as this is the WOAT era of live performance.

I think she’s in amazing shape especially after having 3 children and she hasn’t shown any signs of slowing down.

Tina Turner has four children and could maintain performance at a high level well into her 50s and 60s.

I respect MJ performance wise and think he’s a great performer, but I feel like his stage show has gotten worse over time and he began lipping his performances too. Bey is in her 30s and she’s still doing her thing in every department and it’s like she’s getting better every time
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This is partially true. He indeed began emphasizing more on dance than live vocals in many of his '90s performances, but that was usually on songs that contained dance numbers so physically taxing that it was literally impossible to sing it well at the same time. Even so, his dancing alone is better than anything she's brought to the stage in her career from what I've seen, and I've seen a lot from her.
 
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See, this is where it gets complex. Just reading this thread is hilarious.

The sheer and utter delusion when it comes to Beyonce’s Beyhive is what makes people so overly critical of her and I don’t think her fans realize it.

Bey is dope. The best female entertainer of this era. No question. But when people start trying to equate her to MJ and Prince and people like that, it just creates a situation for her to get dragged.

Bey doesn’t need to be compared to them. She can be great on her own merits. And I wish her stans realized this instead of doing the fukkin most all the time.

Beyonce's song catalog isn't all that great either. Even her mega hits. "Partition" c'mon now. "Single Ladies" you mean to tell me in 25 years these songs will still be relevant? "Irreplacable" ?

This era is garbage. She's just at the top of the garbage heap.
 
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Shes had the GOAT marketing team behind her from the beginning and has had industry contacts since she was a child. Shes not the goat. Musically shes sub par. Vocally shes sub par. Shes a glorified karaoke singer who can dance somewhat ok for a popstar. She jumos on trends just like jay z to stay relevant. She cant hold a candle to people like whitney, sade, amy winehouse etc.
We all know you're a trash poster who supports the killing of innocent people by Muslim terrorists (this is documented on The Coli breh)

But... vocally she is sub par?

Barely anything you said made any sense.. but vocally she's sub par...

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To think that IN REAL LIFE people know you, they must be so fukking annoyed each time they know they will actually be in a room with you alone that day breh.. and puzzy.. forget about it. You must have 11 Fleshlights
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