Briahana Joy Gray: The Democratic Party isn't just ignorant, they're immoral-- Marc Lamont Hill interview

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How does one not sound like a “bothsider”

Specific/detailed examples would be great
I said she sounds like a Coli Bothsider you know the dudes who live in Democrat strongholds saying that we got to vote MAGA To get the Democrats to do something for Us

She´s a Socialist Shill basically saying the Democrats aren´t marxist enough like the Coli. Couldn´t vote for the Indian because not enough Government gmmies for them so they had to pick donnie.
 

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The Democratic establishment support of the genocide in Gaza had a profound impact in my outlook.


With that said, I'm not with you closeted MAGA supporters. I think the Dem party is immoral, I think MAGA is straight up evil. :ufdup:
You got to pick your poison at the end of the day the Mid east shyt is between small hats and Pals.

Maybe if their own arab brothers didn´t throw them under the bus the PALs would have some motion.

Can´t care more than they care.


Everything has tradeoffs.
 

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As long as both parties agree on the following:
-Its fine to keep giving the pentagon money even though they dont pass any audits.
- Its fine that PACs exist
- its fine that citizens united hasn't been over turned.
- its fine for elected officials to trade stocks
- supreme court appointments should be for life and with no age or term limits
- the filibuster is useful
- the electoral college is fine
- failing big businesses should be given government bailouts without being nationalized
-Israel isnt violating international law and deserves continued support.
-Corporate socialism in general is fine. Subsidies should continue to go to massive corporations


You're wasting your time getting riled up over anything they do. The most important politicians are the ones who are in your community talking about what they will do about public transportation, building code safety, rent costs, public housing options, subsidies for food, public spaces to gather in, libraries etc.

Then there's arguably the most important thing affecting your life: your work. Your right to not be fired on short notice and for a nonsense reason, your right to not be given an unreasonable amount of work. Your right to be compensated in a way that alligns with the effort you and your peers put in. All of that is extremely important and a union can get that for you. No politician from either party is going to actively praise people for getting unionized and encourage it. Doing so means he risks losing corporate donors.

National politics is a distraction put on by wealthy CEOs who own the news stations and podcast networks/platforms youre listening to. The more pressing issues are in your workplace, your city, and your state. People in Mass. Or Washington state Have a different standard of living compared to people in TX or Georgia. Why? Because people give a shyt who their mayors and governors are and they have standards.
 

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Now is she gonna be called MAGA and a c00n and told to shut up and just vote for voicing her opinion?:mjpls:
No, because a critique of the Democratic Party from the left, is not the same as a critique coming from the right, hence the MAGA/c00n association…it’s really not that complicated.

Coli “bothsiders” are right-wingers who have no interest in leftist politics or ideals and find themselves in limbo because the political party that truly aligns with their beliefs hates their very existence, so they punch at Democrats because it’s the easy thing to do instead of confronting their contradictions.
:yeshrug:
 

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I said she sounds like a Coli Bothsider you know the dudes who live in Democrat strongholds saying that we got to vote MAGA To get the Democrats to do something for Us

She´s a Socialist Shill basically saying the Democrats aren´t marxist enough like the Coli. Couldn´t vote for the Indian because not enough Government gmmies for them so they had to pick donnie.
I’ll go back & watch but I didn’t hear the bolded. The problem I’ve seen on here is any criticism of Dems is labeled as “bothsider” it’s counterproductive to any advancement of the party. The “stan” culture really has infected politics

People giving legit criticism & because it’s not what you’re used to hearing it “sounds” like she’s a bothsider? Politics would be so much better if we went off these people words but most importantly actions.
 

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Politicians on both sides of the aisle fellating and being sentinels of the uber wealthy, their corporations and their foundations is how we get manufacturing and production sent developing nations causing the rust belt, wage stagnation contributing to the loneliness epidemic, corporate lobbying that both parties are beholden to is how we have the opioid epidemic, anti-black racism and corporate lobbying is why we don’t have universal healthcare. These corporations are why comparable third parties don’t exist. Anyone disputing anything said (reguardless of the current state of affairs) is a fukking idiot, lol.​
 
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I said she sounds like a Coli Bothsider you know the dudes who live in Democrat strongholds saying that we got to vote MAGA To get the Democrats to do something for Us

She´s a Socialist Shill basically saying the Democrats aren´t marxist enough like the Coli. Couldn´t vote for the Indian because not enough Government gmmies for them so they had to pick donnie.
Bothsiders either don't vote or vote 3rd party. This narrative you are forwarding about voting Republican so the Dems do something you just made up.

BJG voted Green Party in 2024:

 

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No, because a critique of the Democratic Party from the left, is not the same as a critique coming from the right, hence the MAGA/c00n association…it’s really not that complicated.

Coli “bothsiders” are right-wingers who have no interest in leftist politics or ideals and find themselves in limbo because the political party that truly aligns with their beliefs hates their very existence, so they punch at Democrats because it’s the easy thing to do instead of confronting their contradictions.
:yeshrug:
Wrong. I voted for Jill Stein in 2024.
 

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As long as both parties agree on the following:
-Its fine to keep giving the pentagon money even though they dont pass any audits.
- Its fine that PACs exist
- its fine that citizens united hasn't been over turned.
- its fine for elected officials to trade stocks
- supreme court appointments should be for life and with no age or term limits
- the filibuster is useful
- the electoral college is fine
- failing big businesses should be given government bailouts without being nationalized
-Israel isnt violating international law and deserves continued support.
-Corporate socialism in general is fine. Subsidies should continue to go to massive corporations


You're wasting your time getting riled up over anything they do. The most important politicians are the ones who are in your community talking about what they will do about public transportation, building code safety, rent costs, public housing options, subsidies for food, public spaces to gather in, libraries etc.

Then there's arguably the most important thing affecting your life: your work. Your right to not be fired on short notice and for a nonsense reason, your right to not be given an unreasonable amount of work. Your right to be compensated in a way that alligns with the effort you and your peers put in. All of that is extremely important and a union can get that for you. No politician from either party is going to actively praise people for getting unionized and encourage it. Doing so means he risks losing corporate donors.

National politics is a distraction put on by wealthy CEOs who own the news stations and podcast networks/platforms youre listening to. The more pressing issues are in your workplace, your city, and your state. People in Mass. Or Washington state Have a different standard of living compared to people in TX or Georgia. Why? Because people give a shyt who their mayors and governors are and they have standards.
:ehh:
 

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I don’t think there’s anything wrong with her having an opinion. The problem is if she uses these opinions to justify supporting this version of republicans like some were doing
 
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